Jrb1979

I think that ship has sailed.

That's the cost of keeping the team in Buffalo. I'm told that's all that matters

First I will ask is how many of you have gone to any other stadiums in any of the big 4 leagues in the US? If you look around at a lot of the newer stadiums they all have major amenities. Examples are bars/restaurants and in a few stadiums I have visited they had an area for families to enjoy. I get it that most of you on this board are hardcores and are there for the game. The thing is a lot of the casual fans want those things. For them the stadium and what's in it is the draw. The game no longer is much of one as most can watch it at home for free.

I hate hate hate the whole argument of just being happy the Bills are staying. Bleh. The whole mentality of just happy to be here is disgusting. This was the chance for Buffalo to create a state of the art stadium and show they belong in the NFL. Instead they went for the cheapest stadium they could build.

I will go to check out the new stadium but if it's just an improved version of Highmark then I will most likely just stay home instead. For me personally, the game itself isn't enough to draw me to any stadium now. At one time it was. Now with the cost of going to a game and the fact I can watch it home with a better view it's hard to justify going.

Since I didn't get a downtown domed stadium my focus is on the amenities that the new stadium will have. For me personally location is not a deal breaker as much as the new stadium having similar amenities to what other new stadiums have. If all they do is basically just update at Highmark stadium has then that's a deal breaker.

First I will say Beane is far from a top GM. While the other teams are improving or fixing holes in their roster, so far he's done little to fix anything. Second, I don't get this fan base at all. Many seem to have the attitude of "just happy to be here". Meaning you're just happy to have a playoff contender year in, year out after missing the playoffs for so long. Same with the stadium, most are just happy the Bills are staying. This fan base should expect more.

I know what you're talking about. There is no point getting worked up over the things out of your control. Like the crappy stadium that's coming or the lack of additions the Bills are doing. Just accept it and enjoy it.

Both those teams were already ahead of the Bills. I believe more in the Chiefs to fix holes then the Bills right now. McBeane hasn't shown they can do it.

It's a message board. It would be an awful echo chamber if all that was posted is DA BILLS ARE THE BESTEST IN THE WORLD.

I could care less about winning the division again. The question should be what have they done to get better against the playoff teams they lost to. Like another top WR that's not Davis that takes pressure off Diggs or better RB that is an major upgrade over what they continue to put out.

For now they show up but I have a feeling many are going to be priced out of the new stadium. There isn't enough hardcore fans to support the prices that come with a new stadium. They need to attract those non-fans.

Look up the Carpetbagger on YouTube. He did a vlog doing route 66. It would give you an idea if it's worth it.

It's not about the covered seats or the look of the stadium. My comment was more about what's in the stadium. Reading between the lines of that interview I posted compared to a similar one done for the Titans stadium you would see a huge difference. The Bills stadium sounds like the amenities will be similar to what Highmark has but updated. Where as the Titans stadium will amenities that appeal to different fan types. Hate to break it to you and many on this board. They are trying to cater to a different fan base then what many of you are. There is a reason many stadiums, old and new are adding in bars in the corners of the stadium and kids areas. The hardcore fans base is not big enough or has enough money to afford the prices of going to games in the future

First I will say to add a dome it would less then $1 billion. The Titans new stadium with a dome is only $500 million more. The money can come for PSLs. I said earlier for me it's less about a roof but more about what there is amenity wise. From what I posted earlier it sounds very much that the new stadium will be much like Highmark but updated with wider concourses and more food options. If you look around at most stadiums in all sports, it's less about the game and more about the amenities in the stadium.

I'm not so sure they can realistically support this stadium. I have a feeling many hardcore fans are going to be priced out.

It's not so much trying to appeal to to other parts of the state or drawing in people across the country but more about drawing in a different type of fan then that goes to the games now. In that interview with Titans stadium they talk about appealing to different types of fans, from families to fans like you. That's the way leagues are heading. I have a 4 year old and would love to go to a game. The problem is she won't sit still for a whole game. If they had an area for kids to get their wiggles out I would me more inclined to go.

It's not about upgrading a 50 year old stadium. My point is that the new stadium is basically an updated Highmark stadium.

I'm over the dome part. I know it will be a huge upgrade but I don't think its going to be much different amenity wise then Highmark other then being updated. This is from an interview with people working on the Bills stadium project. With respect to the project, what is the ultimate goal in terms of the kind of stadium you're looking to build? And how much different will it be than Highmark Stadium RR: We're going to build the best football stadium we possibly can for the Buffalo Bills and our fans. It will be state of the art and will have a great deal of modern amenities that we currently lack at Highmark Stadium. We do, however, want to maintain the intimacy, great sight lines and the amazing home field advantage and energy we currently have at Highmark Stadium. It will be a football specific stadium and we want to take advantage of all of the modern amenities, comfort, and technology available to us as we develop our plan with the architects. Compare that to what developers are saying about the Titans stadium. What are your goals for fan experience in the new stadium? BN: "We want it to be a modern experience. Our current facility has served our fans well for a few decades. But there is a better experience that is available by thinking about the diversity of experience. Many of our fans just want to get to the game, park in their seats, and watch the game. But what you see around the NFL, the best stadiums allow fans the choice about how they want to attend the game and interact with the stadium. So, that may be a great seat that has a good view of the game and they're parked there the entire time. And, that may be a social experience. There's families who want the ability to roam around a little bit with their little ones. We have millennials who would like to have something of a game-long tailgate. So, we are trying to build a building and design a building that accommodates a wide range of experiences. We are really, really focused on building a great fan experience, a home-field advantage frankly, through the design of this building and we feel like there are some really great opportunities." IMO the Titans stadium and it's amenities are what the Bills should be building. After reading those two interviews the Bills went for an update to Highmark instead of putting on the level of what new stadiums offer. It's not just about the game on the field anymore or tailgating. I know many here that's all they care about is the game on the field but it's not who the league is trying to cater to anymore.

I could care less if there is a dome or not. I will be laughing when this new stadium has the same issues as Highmark with selling tickets in December and January due to the weather. They had issues the last two seasons in December having sellouts and that's with the team being good.

I would like to know why an enclosed stadium wasn't possible. Considering that the new Titans stadium costs 2.1 billion compared to the Bills 1.4 billion.

Agreed. Even the Titans stadium looks much better and didn't cost that much more. IMO it feels like they went with the best stadium they can do for the price they were willing to spend. Since it's only going to be used for the Bills and they aren't getting a Super Bowl here why spend more then needed. For most fans the fact this means the team is staying is good enough. They got an improved stadium over Highmark. What more do you need?

General seating isn't much higher but premier seating is a lot higher then you said.

It will be much higher then that. According to the Sports Business Journal, Bills season-ticket holders got a look at what a personal seat license "might cost in the new stadium when the team emailed a survey on the potential design, amenities and seating options" for the $1.4B stadium, starting at $500 for general seating -and reaching "as high as $16,500 for premier seat