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Remember... Moulds was a selfish player.

I saw the same thing and agree -- but at least Bullock was able to maintain a basic conversation, something Willis had trouble doing... haha

LOL -- it's a beautiful Memorial Day evening and we have taken time out of our days to post on a Bills-related message board during the least exciting portion of the offseason. WE ALL need a hobby. Don't be in denial, Lori... just admit it... afterall you are one of us.

You're probably right, I think that's what it is. He just seems SO out of it when he's interviewed.

I'm not even picking - you're taking it personally... I just find it humorous, that's all. There are plenty of players who have grown up with similar backgrounds as Willis... but he flat out is the weirdest / most spacy interview subject I have seen in a long time. It's rather funny.

Nope... but he makes others in the NFL look like they are!

Nothing was "wrong" -- he just sounds like the stupidest player in the NFL... which I find pretty humorous. I still root for him as long as he wears a Bills uni... but he is what he is.

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John, You have been doing this for years and I have been correcting you for years. It's SCHOBEL. There's no 'R' in his name dammit!!!!!!!! Whew had to get that off my chest. Thank you

LOL that's like saying what has Peyton Manning done to help is team that Bubby Brister hasn't aside from throwing the football? Again, it amazes me how much of a bum you realize JPL is, yet you can't give rightful credit to a QB like Flutie, who just plain won (despite his physical limitations). A few things he did: He utilized Moulds and put him on the map. Up until that point, Moulds was an underutilized first round bust. Enter Flutie -- who trusted him and used him as his main target, resulting in Moulds becoming a bona fide #1 receiver. (Note: Flutie didn't "scramble" the ball to him, he actually had to throw the ball to him). He compensated for a horrible offensive line. He allowed the Bills to continue winning despite a horrid line because of his agility. Often times, he single-handedly converted 3rd downs because of his scrambling ability and that provided the team with 2 major beneifts: (1) Drives lasted longer and we were able to put points on the board. (2) The defense remained fresh with increased time of possession. Scrambling was a huge part of his game that directly resulted in wins for the Bills... to take that out of the equation would not be fair.

Yeah! How dare these people question the Bills' strategy!!!!! They have been perennial playoff contenders with their current strategy. Let the results speak for themselves!!!! Gosh, the never of some poeple.

I'll let Easterbrook do all the talking. Since 1990, Buffalo has had 17 first-round draft picks; the team has used seven on defensive backs, versus five on linemen of all types. Buffalo seems addicted to drafting skinny guys: this may explain why the Bills were consistently blown off the ball on both sides of the line in 2005. Once again it was Skinny City on draft day as Buffalo went first for a safety, then used three of its first four selections on defensive backs. The Bills, having one of the league's worst offensive lines, ended 2005 with waiver-wire acquisitions starting at both offensive tackles -- yet signed no OT in the offseason and did not choose one in the draft until the fifth round. Eric Mangini, product of the New England success system, took over the Jets and at the top of the draft immediately went offensive line, offensive line. It's a winning formula. Endlessly drafting skinny guys who get clobbered because there is no one in the trenches is not a winning formula.

W-L record? Oh yeah, that was all the D. Flutie had nothing to do with it.

Willis is a flat out punkass. I'll root for him week in and week out, but he is what he is. It's rather comical if you ask me.

Nobody is saying he was solely responsible for the team's success -- he was, however, a major contributor whether you want to believe it or not. Comparing him to Dilfer is just assenine. Dilfer's job was to hand the ball off and let the D play. Flutie, unlike Dilfer produced and made some plays for his team that led directly to wins. Did he have the benefit of a great D? Hell yes he did. But his scrambling ability converted numerous 3rd downs, keeping drives alive and keeping the D fresh -- unlike Dilfer who was 3 and out after handing off 3 times each and every possession. So you're comparing his production to Trent Dilfer's. Passing Yards Flutie: 3,171 Dilfer: 1,502 TD Passes Flutie: 19 Dilfer: 12 Big Plays (20+ Yards) Flutie: 51 Dilfer: 39

I too was capativated by his "potential." I'm not trying to sit here on a high horse and say that it was a clear-cut decision all along. But in a time when many years have passed (years repeated losing seasons), I feel it's time to give Doug Flutie his due -- rather than continue to villify him and continue to hold on to RJ's potential -- potential that never came close to realization. RJ teased us with his potential, but Flutie wowed us with his magic. He was by no means the cornerstone of a franchise, but he provided hope for a team and a city that was desperately seeking an identity after the Super Bowl years.

Honestly speaking, I have posted inside information before, only to be villified and ripped on by everyone on the message board. Since then, I stopped bothering. People hear what they want to hear, that's the bottom line.

I completely agree that those 3 coaches had the advantage of hindsight. But so do we. And looking back on it, there was no question that Flutie was the better QB for the bills, both in terms of skill and in terms of wins.

Wow. Incredible. RJ had a higher QB rating than Jim Kelly... so what are you trying to imply? That sacks and injuries were all that prevented him from becoming one of the all-time greats? That is absolutely hilarious. Your QB rating argument is a self-fulfiling prophecy. QB Rating takes into account interception %, completion %, TD% and YPC. Note that each of these 4 percentages is normalized by the number of passing ATTEMPTS. Because RJ couldnt' get rid of the ball, his attempts were consistently lower than that of a typical QB, thus increasing those components in the QB rating. That does not make him a good QB, nor does it illustrate his potential. In any case, I wouldn't be surprised if his QB rating was higher than many of the all-time greats.

... you're really reaching here. It's amazing how much sense you have regarding the KH vs. JPL debate yet how nuts you are when it comes to the DF and RJ debate! This agrument of yours is analogous to you saying, "I remember that KC game when JP threw 3 long TD passes, he was so great that day. If only he could learn how to be accurate and show some discipline in the pocket"

RJ was a freak of an athlete, which is why scouts and GMs were so enamored with him early on. They quickly realized, however, that it did not translate to production on the field. While he had flashes and moments, like many QBs do, what he lacked was the ability to sense pressure in the pocket. Comparing him to Drew Bledsoe was Drew a HUGE disservice. Drew Bledsoe is one of the most prolific passers of our time. Clearly, when given enough time, Drew knows how to get rid of the ball. The same cannot be said of Rob Johnson. He was bad, and there is no other way to put it. After Buffalo, he latched onto 3 offensive minded coaches who thought they could tap into his potential: Gruden, Spurrier, and Callahan -- all 3 men quickly realized what the Bills painfully realized 5 years and $25 million later -- he simply didn't have what it takes to play in this league as a QB.

Sarcasm aside, do you really feel that Spikes is that stupid to go out and speak ill of a teammate on national radio? There's an unwritten code of conduct among teams that those types of things remain in-house. Even when people allegedly didn't like Flutie on the team, nobody came out and said it. But go ahead, you can brand me a Holcomb supporter. Have fun with that

Because if teammates didn't like JP, Takeo would go right out and say it.

... like how to play yourself out of the league? RJ couldn't even stick onto an NFL roster as a viable 3rd stringer. He was picked up by Gruden, Spurrier, and Callahan, 3 men who have a decent reputation with quarterbacks and the offensive side of the ball. All coaches realized something that you and the Bills took many years to figure out -- he simply never had what it took to win in the NFL. I'll take an ego-maniac who wins ballgames over some pretty boy who says all the right things, only to tease you with "potential." If you think 2 straight playoff berths represent low standards, I'm curious as to how you feel about the recent ineptitude at OBD.