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8 hours ago, Billl said:
From a coaching standpoint, yes. White was in position to tackle Chase short of a first down. That’s all a coach can do. If your best CB misses a tackle, you’ve got a personnel issue.
I disagree, tre was 4 yards past the marker, about 8-9 yard cushion on chase that only needs 4 yards with a quick trigger QB on a zero blitz, absolute no brainer for burrow, watch the all 22, burrow stares down chase pre snap to completion. Not to mention your asking your CB that's a bad tackler to come down hill make a tackle at the marker instead of playing up and playing the ball that's his strength.
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1 hour ago, Billl said:
So you want Tre White trying to press Jamar Chase? That seems like a good idea to you?
In that zero blitz situation he has to play press or at least play up because the line to gain was too far away for tre to make a play on a slant that easily picks up the first like he did. Did the outcome seem like playing that far back was a good idea to you?
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3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I wouldn’t say overly safe. It was a zero blitz, something we don’t do often.
Almost all defenses would play press or up in that situation because they trust their rush to force a quick throw and your DB to break up the quick pass. Playing back like that is dipping one toe in the water because Frazier is afraid of chase getting behind tre. And on top of it Frazier is zero blitzing with a huge cushion on a qb that's a master at getting the ball out quick to a reciever that has elite yac abilities. It's like giving tyreek hill huge cushion with 13 seconds left.
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The play encapsulates the bills defense, the fear is if tre plays up and chase puts a move on him and gets behind him it's probably a td. So Frazier and the bills play overly safe and keep it in front. This is why the bills defense has no "juice" it has no killer instinct, has no bully attitude and loses in playoffs to tough teams. The defenses literal identity is bend but don't break, how do you expect the defense to be killers when their job is to play safe?
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1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
The only positive I can take into next season is that I will enjoy flying under the radar to start the season. This team and Allen will get very little respect even if they start hot out the gate. This was a weird season where despite holding a great record and first place in the standings for the majority of it, we just constantly felt like we were underachieving expectations.
Offense never really clicked all year other than the titans. Everything on offense felt hard fought this year. It's probably a culmination of alot of things, but a lack of wr2 a solid slot reciver and a steady run game plagued us all year, today was no different.
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19 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:
Yeah, the Bengals execution and coaching were much better today.
Historically, light snow has never been an issue. Wind or heavy precip would've been an actual issue for both teams today, but this was not such a day.
Heavy wind and rain would have been worse for the bills. The Bengals run game destroyed us. We had no run game, would have been a blood bath.
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19 minutes ago, Dan said:
3rd and 4.. the entire D on the line. Immediate pressure on Burrow!! But tre was 10yards off the LOS ...easy toss and 5 yard gain to chase. At that moment.. i knew we were losing. They ..do not.. know how to play physical defense.
That's the play that was it for me with Frazier. Most if not all defenses will be in press in that situation, but Fraziers "keep it in front of you" defense has tre way too far back. But let's say that was tres fault being too far back. If your a DC and you see your guy way to far back wouldn't you call TO or at least screaming move up? That tells me Frazier intended that and it was cowardly football.
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32 minutes ago, Brandon said:
There were a lot of us who were of the same line of thinking over the last couple of seasons. The level of priority the Bills have placed on defense just isn't in tune with the reality of how the game is played anymore.
At this stage, I feel like we're becoming the reincarnation of the 80s Broncos, who wasted a decade of John Elway's career with defensive minded coach who didn't surround him with the talent or scheme that he needed.
I hate to be the Monday morning QB but not investing in talent around josh was on display today. Bengals surrounded their elite QB with elite talent. The Bills got Diggs. Burrow has 4 options better than joshs #2 option. I liked the investment into cook and Shakir but neither were expected to be elite options this year. I will say we will never know what Crowder could have been but we undoubtedly missed a solid slot option with chemistry with josh. Hopefully some things could be found in FA or Shakir.
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14 minutes ago, stevestojan said:
Anyone else strangely calm after this? Maybe I’m getting used to it or maybe I just never saw a path to beat the Bengals.
But I’m over it already. I do think changes need to be made at the very highest levels, but I’m not going to let this ruin my day.
Maybe next year.
Me too man, I felt like the team never clicked like they did against the titans. I knew unless they magically clicked and played like that again the bills weren't winning a super bowl. But I cheered the whole way, fun season and it's still nice to not not be a joke of a team like we were for so long. Won't let it ruin my day.
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1 minute ago, buffalobillswin said:
I know the tagline of this board is “everyone else’s fault besides Allen” but Mahomes widened the gap this year and Burrow overtook him. Really have to cut down the turnovers next year.
Josh didn't play amazing but today sure as hell was not his fault. Not even close. Bills saw schemes from the Bengals that were built to beat the bills. Bills were completely unprepared for it.
Not to mention we saw a franchise that gave their QB 4 recieving options better than the bills 2nd best option.
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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but amidst all this Leslie Frazier bashing, it appears that we have scored … 10 points.
True, but the Bengals haven't actually tried to score since the 3rd quarter, they've been burning clock since the end of the 3rd. The Bengals absolutely dismantled Fraziers bend but don't break style. It's not the only problem today, but it's a problem.
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Every reciever was in the back of endzone.... did dorsey call a play to get the first?
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1 minute ago, phypon said:
Quick, guess the next 3 plays.
Pass
Deep pass
Deeper pass
punt
Davis drop
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1 minute ago, WideNine said:
If missing Jones creates this kind of mismatch for our DL against backups, Beane has to seriously reevaluate his investments across that line.
Rousseau, and Jones have been showing up all year. Oliver is effective, but usually if we have someone like Jones next to him...
We know Von can bring it. The rest?
Von wouldn't have made up the gap in this game. Burrow has gotten the ball out quick and it's the rushing game that's destroying the bills, Von was actually a liability in the run game often this year.
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2 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
Burrow has a patchwork line and still has more time to throw than allen has and we have Diggs. They have Chase, Higgins and Boyd.
Put Allen in Burrows situation and he's gonna destroy teams.Burrow is surrounded by elite talent. He has 3 to 4 options better than our 2nd best option.
Bengals D challenge QBs better than anyone, with Frazier, offenses know exactly what they are going against with no adjustments.
Bills spend money on a D line and ask josh to be God.
The Bengals ask Joe to not throw picks and get the ball into elite recievers hands.
Unfortunately Von would not have made a difference today, burrow has gotten the ball out too quick, hindsight is 20/20 but I wonder what this season looks like with an elite #2 WR
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I'll say it again. Tale of 2 franchises, one surrounds their star qb with talent. The other spends all their money on a defensive line and hopes their young late round recievers step up and asks their qb to be superman every game.
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1 minute ago, 5ths the charm said:
That was back corner, Knox cut off too soon. Bad route run by Knox
Yup, josh throws to a spot not the receiver on that play
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Just now, VaMilBill said:
Horrible play calling. That first down call was abysmal
Everyone and their mom knew the bills were going to run there. PA might have been nice
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2 minutes ago, IndyMark said:
Adjustments need to be made.
Adjustments need to be made.
Adjustments need to be made.
Hello? Hello? Frazier? Dorsey? McD?
Adjustments need to be made.
Put my grandma in for saffold.
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1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
But if you don’t get the first you’re giving that team you can’t stop probably another td before halftime. Do you have any confidence in our team picking up a 3rd/4th and long the way the oline is playing?
No but at a minimum I try to get them to jump, they got them to jump 4 plays before. Then you line up and see what the coverage is for a 4th and 5. If you don't like it, timeout punt. If you like it, let josh cook. Bills needed points bad there, it's going to be a real battle now
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Aaaannnd that's how you lose in the playoffs. You haven't stopped the Bengals all game. 2 timeouts and 40 seconds. You at a minimum line up see the coverage, if you don't like it get them to jump then timeout and punt. Bend but don't break WILL not beat the Bengals or chiefs
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Just now, balln said:
Just watch chases hands. At one point his gloved hands. Both of them are on milanors arm. The ball is in his basket bopping around.
Exactly the ball at one point was just pinned between them
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Have to get at least 3 here
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Just now, TheFunPolice said:
WTF was that coverage?
Blitz so Burrow throws quick but sit back 10 yards
Fraziers bend but don't break D. Most teams would play press right there but it gives up a possible TD. So Frazier will give up 4 yards all day
Eli Apple - jackass of the year
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Thank you, I truly pray for the day when bills fans realize when the are being trolled on purpose.
If you want to be trending on social media in the nfl do you say something nice about someone? No you go after the most fiery fan bases in the nfl and insult them, and you EXPLODE on social media. Who's trending on Twitter? Apple. Why? Because BILLS FANS get mad and tweet back and retweet and tag him. He's trolling and bills fans are making him more famous.
Do people really think nick Wright hates the bills? Hell no, he probably never really cared about the Bills, but he made one comment about josh allen and he was trending on Twitter for days because of upset bills fans. Insulting josh Allen and pissing off bills mafia was the best move of his career. Now he literally makes more money and gets his own stupid segments from his network every time the bills lose. All because bills fans fall for it.