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He was underappreciated and for those that believe that the majority of players in the NFL are spoiled, maybe this will open some eyes. You are 100% correct. The ONLY reason that OJ is not recognized as the greatest football player of all time at ANY position is because he was a conceited jerk, a womanizer, a wife beater and you know all the rest. As a human being, OJ was something quite different. I have no idea why Reggie isn't in the HOF. Obviously he should be.

D.) Miami has one of the worst OL's in the NFL and he still couldn't make it there.

I believe Clowney would be the best player on our roster, at least until someone can show otherwise. As Jerry Hughes has shown, it's nut just about sacks. Sealing the edge, pressures, tackles for loss, QB hits, etc. There are many ways he can be disruptive as well as sacking the QB. This is an elite DE, but not the best. Add sack numbers and he's as good as they come. Also, we'd have to be thinking about trading Murphy or Shaq as part of this deal, IMO. Wouldn't make sense to keep all that talent at DE when we could always use more help on offense or ST.

Why a backup DE when we already have solid depth there? Are we getting ready to trade someone before the cut down to 53? Also, are we going to keep this guy over Shaq , Love and Johnson?

I have to wonder if football can remain as is because of all the head injuries. Massive migraines, memory loss, ED, etc. Fewer collisions? Maybe something closer to flag football? I don't know, but attitudes towards this issue are changing as more is learned about the damage done. Perhaps we'll see more guys opting to play noncontact sports like hoops or baseball. Why not? They can still make the same kind of money without risking such debilitating injuries. At least the risk is much lower.

Why do you say that? I'm intrigued by him too. Not necessarily. Many of them don't do enough study, but some do. Also, they are more objective than local sports reporters and fans.

I sure hope you're right about Edmunds. I was decidedly unimpressed with him last year, but he has the physical attributes to be great. Personaly, I think he needs a bigger mean streak. Oh, and I'm a strawberry and banana guy, myself. Next time you feel like dessert, dice a banana and apple. Stir in a bunch of yogurt and pour some granola on top. Yum...

Not to be argumentative, but he has been so-so at best. AGAIN, this is not to say he will NEVER be any good, but that he'll need time to get up to speed.

The scouting reports say that he would be better at G than OT at this level. Not sure why some are showering him with praise when he's only played against backups.

Bested, outperformed, looks like a rookie, overmatched. Now if your looking for more specifics here are some areas of growth he would do well to focus on -- Size, strength and handwork. I think those are things he will need to improve. I'm sure the coaches can tell much more, but they won't criticise him in public nor should they.

QW is the odds on favorite for DROY at this point. That 1st Jets game will include a lot of EO/QW comparisons. I just hope he progresses quickly and that he and Edmunds become great because if their ceilings are just "average" we are in trouble. I'm still hopeful, but I havent seen either one of them truly excel yet. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Coaches evaluate players in the preseason. If a coach is too "stupid" to make necessary evaluations of his rookies, he has no business being a football coach at any level. Evaluating players is both continuous and necessary. It's not like he's saying Oliver won't ever play well. The OP is saying that he's not playing well right now and that is correct. He needs more work and experience. You are correct that we shouldn't make a final determination yet, but I think "stupid" was a poor choice of words.

Well, 2 different sources I found rated him a "late day 3" pick with a draft grade of 3.3 and another said round 5 or 6 and a grade of 3.39. I think that's about it for "stats". As far as making the roster goes, I think PS may be his best shot since we just signed like half a dozen backup caliber OL veterans in FA. Next year could be a different story if he progresses. Our OL still needs a lot work, so there will definitely be opportunities. I've neither seen nor heard anything about his preseason or practicing one way or another.

How about this one? He doesn't need to explain himself to anyone or make excuses. Injuries have made throwing too painful for him to continue. That's not an "excuse". It's a reason.

Think about it. Shady has been a top RB for a while, but his days are numbered. While that deadline approaches, he must want to enjoy his last days as a major contributor. Last year Shady couldn't do anything behind that awful OL and he NEVER complained even once. Instead, he proffessed his dedication to the team and his love of the fans, the city and his coaches and teamates. Beane told him that if he could just hang on and he'd get help. Nothing would please me more than to see Shady rewarded for all that as well as his leadership and work ethic by having a really good year and getting a good contract wherever he goes in 2020. And no. I wasn't happy about the release of Fred either. I think moves like that hurt a team because FA's see it and that disloyal as do the fans.

The OP is correct that Oliver hasn't performed nearly as well as some seem to think. He's a rookie and he has a long way to go yet. He must greatly improve the use of his hands to be effective. I support this pick, but of course I wish he were ready now. Just leave him in there and let him gain more experience and pray he becomes elite.

Let's trade Zay for a WR that more than doubled his production in his 2nd season, then added a few pounds to up his game. Oh wait. Never mind.

+ Seahawks Packers Vikings Chargers Ravens Jets (but it could be close) - Colts (Now that Luck has retired, we'll have to wait and see.)

Go look at the power rankings at NFL.com. They list more than 20 teams better than us. Let's just hope we can improve this season and finally become relevant again.

I can't believe people in Indiana boo'd Luck. Talk about a complete lack of class! That said, there are people like this everywhere and they do not speak (or boo) for the majority.

Championship!

I kinda hope they keep only 5 WR's. Other than Brown, Beasley and Jones, our WR's are all backup caliber players and can easily be replaced. I'd like us to keep an extra RB instead.

Quick! Trade for him! We need him back! Just kidding.

No 1 person stood out, but I thought Shaq gave a very good effort. Shady was excellent.

John Brown> In AZ he was overshadowed by Fitzgerald and in Baltimore he was not well used. He doesn't have to play 2nd fiddle to anyone except maybe Beasley. This should give him more opportunities. He's still just an average WR with great speed, though. I hope Edmunds makes a HUGE jump and Allen too. I have my fingers crossed.