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While it's sad...I have to agree that it's tougher to have empathy for someone who would physically/mentally abuse their spouse and baby. Life is hard sometimes, most of us have had some dark times at some point or another. That will never be an excuse to treat other people like that though. But then there is the aspect of mental illness, and I guess we'll never know if that was a part of what he did to his wife and baby.

I bet we're #1 in throwing those deep balls out of bounds.

For all the talk about building a culture here...I really don't understand why a guy that consistently plays at a 50% effort level gets to stay here for so long. We really only seem to hear that in convenient situations where it appears McDermott and Beane possibly made a wrong decision and there's a need to find an intrinsic logic for it. I would agree. And they have talent and a solid foundation to start on. I just know if I was getting my big shot in the NFL, if I had other choices, I wouldn't want to be hamstrung by Jerry. It's never a good thing when the owner is the GM because you'll always be the only scapegoat.

Yeah, that's definitely a reason why Garrett is still there, he's a total yes man. All this stuff we're hearing about Lincoln Riley...I'm not huge on him but it seems like the football world is...he's probably more or less going to have his pick of jobs. I don't know why he would pick Dallas if Jerry's going to uphold the amount of control he has over personnel/strategies.

Race has something to do with the way Peterman's portrayed...but not in the way you're describing it. I'm white myself, but this is so incredibly easy to spot. Peterman's whiteness and religious views have helped anoint him as this great guy with so much character...what has he actually exhibited to earn that label? The guy looked completely defeated every time he played after the Chargers game. And the Hail Mary run against the Bears because he didn't want to risk another possible INT while the reward could have helped the team, that was one of the most gutless plays I've ever seen. Also, Peterman's gotten more of a shot than most 5th round picks would have if they struggled even close to this much. He had every opportunity to avenge that historically bad vs the Chargers and came up empty and flat on his face every single time. The idea that he somehow hasn't been given a fair shot is beyond ridiculous.

That's part of the game now though. You have to push downfield and take advantage of the rules in place that give WR's a better shot than the corner on those plays, and for the possibility of pass interference.

Just wow. We've been blown out in just about as many games as we've been in. And how do they excuse McDermott for the Peterman games when it was his decision to start him?

I don't get it. In what way did Peterman show perseverance? After the Chargers game, he looked defeated every time he was out there. Didn't even try to push the ball downfield in the first game this year. The run on the Hail Mary against the Bears because he didn't want to risk an INT even though the reward could have helped his team. The only thing his faith has showed us is the creation of the myth of his character.

He can have his wings boneless and dip them in mayo if he wants to play here. Otherwise, yes...disgusting. Offensive to the cows that give their life to feed us that wonderful cut.

What about his hands?

As long as that's supplemented with at least 2 more high quality players from free agency/trades, that could be OK.

I really don't think the plan was ever to sit Allen for the entire season. If you're rolling with only Peterman and Allen to start the season and your plan is to sit Allen the entire season...I mean I've let McDermott and Beane have it but even I'm hoping that wasn't their plan. We have serious problems moving forward if that's the level they're at, given the fact that they had a terrible plan in place even with the assumption that Allen was going to start at some point this season. They have to get Allen the experience. Could Barkley play better? Possibly. But he's not a real prospect for the future. We definitely should have had someone like him on the roster to begin with, just a half-decent guy that is willing to try to push the ball downfield and help our WR's develop. instead of throwing developmental games away with Peterman...but the biggest priority at this point is seeing if Allen is the guy. We discuss a million topics on this board about so many players and positions...none of that will matter if we don't find the answer at QB1.

As many have already said in this thread here...continuity is nice if you have really good players. We have at least 3 guys on the O-line who are starting that we know are not quality NFL starters. Dawkins is solid and we're hoping on Teller. Major work needs to be done on the O-line. At least 3 starters and a quality swingman is needed. Yea, and if you remember, that Dallas O-line made a HUGE difference. That offense was really efficient that year.

Hopefully he pans out but I'd like to see us go for for a quality CB2 in the offseason even if he does look solid the rest of the way. You need that kind of depth at CB in the league now anyway

I'd take it if he becomes Robert Woods.

No, and I really hope 1 game doesn't shift any kind of focus with management. The O-line needs at least 3 more legit starters and an effective swing player. Zay still has a ways to go to be considered a possible #2. Either way, we need 2 quality WR's, 1 of them needing to be an elite talent, 1 good TE and another solid TE2/quality backup, and a RB. I'm also of the philosophy that you should keep drafting QB's to give yourself a shot at landing a diamond in the rough. Allen is obviously talented but he's anything but a given at QB.

Bring him back Woody!

Phillipians 3:13 13 Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead

That makes me feel better. Just wanted to also add Revelation 21:4 - "He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death' or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

Peterman wasn't even a good teammate. That Hail Mary run last week was one of the most gutless plays I've ever seen. He didn't want to risk an INT on his stat sheet even if the reward could have helped the team. It was selfish. Hope this guy doesn't end up on the practice squad and never wears a Bills uni again. JAMES 1:2-3

His Judgement Cometh And That Right Soon!

Dude, we've lost to a lot less than that. To me it's more about our team, I don't think the consistency is anywhere close to ripping off all of those games. And even if Allen improves and develops, he's going to have some ups and downs. Yesterday was fun but I really hope it doesn't at any point mean benching Allen, who could actually be the QB of the future, for Barkley to attempt to win now when the ceiling is mediocrity at best. Not saying you're suggesting that, but I'm just hoping the priority is still going to be developing Allen, whether or not that means taking an extra loss or two.

Ahhh the old classic we're going 4-0 vs the Jets and Dolphins.

I definitely don't see it. I would love it because it would mean Allen/the offense are getting better. But realistically, even if Allen does improve, he's likely still going to have some ups and downs. And we have yet to see if Matt Barkley went a little rogue with pushing the ball down the field and if McDermott and Daboll want to rein that in or finally let the ball fly.

I agree with some of this, but I would give a few of those guys more credit, such as White, Milano, Phillips, and Johnson. Those guys have consistently played pretty well. I like Edmunds as well, dude's only 20 and can make plays. Hopefully some of those mistakes will get cleaned up but I do like that he's a possible playmaker. But I agree, most regimes can claim a handful of quality players after a couple of offseasons. I don't think anything special has been done here as of yet. That'll all depend on Allen.