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While coaching is a big deal...there is zero evidence of this. I'm not sure you've seen either Mahomes or Allen play much if you really think that. Mahomes makes some incredible throws from even the toughest angles. I'm really not even saying that so much as a knock on Allen rather than I think you're downplaying just how good Mahomes has been. I understand that KC has a lot of weapons...but Mahomes is legit. He pretty much has everything you'd want from a QB.

Whoa. This is hot takes, not a confessional.

I couldn't disagree more with this. The way today's game is set up is perfect for Mahomes. He's the Steph Curry of the NFL.

OK, Buddy Nix

Chris Brown is and always has been a total shill...what do you expect?

An inaccurate throw from Allen at a receiver's feet that will be irrelevant because of his athleticism and arm strength

It depends on what you mean by that. We're not going to win anything this season, we already know that. It's a development year. I think it all depends on how much they view McCoy as being a contributor to that development.

I can see both sides on this one. From purely a business plan perspective, it makes sense to trade him since we're really building for 2 years from now, when McCoy likely won't be here or be at his best anymore anyway. However...we're so strapped on weapons that it could make QB1's development even tougher. If the plan is to keep playing him the rest of this season and the return is going to be a 3rd round pick or lower, it might make sense to keep him .

I actually unfortunately agree with the McDermott/Jauron comparisons. There are some things I like more about McDermott...but the red flags are similar. They're both extremely conservative. They both have no clue about the offense and it results in an incredibly bland product. If you're a coach that doesn't know much about one side of the ball, you have to be able to identify good coordinators. He's 0-2 right now. We heard so many of the same things during the Jauron era about how hard the team plays for him, and I remember a couple of late game comebacks from Trent Edwards during that 5-1 start that had so many fans say the same thing about how things were different with him and his "temperament". The head-scratching plays, like in the 2nd quarter on 1st and 10 in the Titans redzone where we gave a play away with that QB sneak because they thought Benjamin may have bobbled the catch...that was flat out embarrassing. It's fine to rush the play but you have to have something drawn up for a situation like that. This team is bad enough offensively, they can't just be giving away plays. Or the QB draw when we had 3rd and 22 at mid-field. Sorry but that's very Jauron-esque stuff. I hope I'm wrong, but what I've seen on the offensive side of the ball during his time here is frightening, and not in a good way.

Haha, love the RInger. Pretty good and fair stuff here. I think Allen could be a franchise QB...but not with the current coaches in place. McDermott has gone 0-2 on offensive coordinators...that's not good. And that's being light on the criticism for him because he's the head coach, the offensive strategy and development still goes through him. So when we see the horrible playcalling and inability to install even the simplest of offenses...that's on McDermott. I know people will keep pointing to the 9-7 playoff year...but that to me does not come ahead of putting up the right support structure for a possible franchise QB.

I'll take culture over catches.

I loved the call. I will never fault a coach for trying to win the game. McDermott would have played for a tie, no doubt. This reminds me of when people were killing Belichick years ago when the Pats were up by 4 or something and on 4th and 4 they went for it from like their own 30 with 2 minutes left. Their D was getting killed in the 2nd half and he had no faith that they could make the stop, and a 1st down would've sealed the game. It didn't work out...but I would absolutely love that call if the Bills did it, if they had a legit QB.

I loved the comeback and the game...but I think this past Sunday's game was different. While the Pats game was much more exciting and crazy...I was never a believer in the Chan/Fitz era. I just enjoyed that game for the moment. And because Freddy Action is my favorite Bills player of all-time and he was incredible that day. While I still don't know about Beane/McDermott...this past Sunday made me feel better about the most important position on the field than I've possibly ever felt. I was too young for the Kelly era and started my football watching during the Flutie/Rob Johnson years. While it wasn't the most thrilling game in the 2nd half...this game was so incredibly important because it showed a glimpse of what could finally be a legit franchise QB. It's amazing to me that people still at times try to doubt how much you need one. You can see how much Allen's play lifted up the rest of the team, that's what a franchise QB can do more than any other position. I hope years from now someone makes a thread reminiscing about that game in Minneapolis when Josh Allen arrived.

This is also part of the propaganda for this regime though...because lots of teams are going to have major cap space for next season. And their foundations are a lot more appealing than ours.

When I saw the topic headline I thought it was going to be something I'd hate Jordan for...but that was pretty funny.

Usually I would say no chance...but McDermott's conservativeness might actually give Bama a shot.

My big problem with an article and book like this is it’s just completely littered with “one assistant says”, “a source close to the team says”, and 10 other different variations of that. These “journalists” can literally make this stuff up if they want to, and probably do half the time. There’s no accountability for it. And how pathetic do you have to be to request being an unnamed source? If you’re going to put something out there, be man enough to put your name on it. While I would love for there to be dissension in the Patriots world...it’s so hard to take stuff like this seriously when there’s so few names attached to these quotes.

If this whole season goes as badly as the first two games...I could definitely see it after this season. They're likely going to have to bring in a new OC anyways. I could see an effort being made to find the right coach to mold and build around Josh Allen if he shows enough promise this year. I really wouldn't mind swapping out Dick Jauron Jr for someone else.

I don't care about being 0-2. What I care about is after how much draft capital and assets we put into getting a hopeful franchise QB...which I'm totally fine with...but then completely neglecting any kind of protection for him. That's not going to change in 1 year either. There honestly might not be a single legitimate starter on this o-line, and it's a problem when it might seriously hinder Josh Allen's development this year. I always said I didn't care about the record this year, I just wanted to see a plan and progression, and what I feared about having a lost year of development is what it looks like we're going to see.

I wish any of our coaches cared that much. It's OK, though. It's hard to win in this league.

Overall, I would definitely say Marrone. I thought his teams were more prepared, had better gameplans. What I was wrong about with Marrone, and what I didn't like about him is how conservative he is in the NFL. I'm a Syracuse football fan and I didn't feel like he was as conservative in college. But it reared it's ugly head with the Jags again last year, I think it contributed them to blowing that game to the Pats in the AFC Championship. The problem is...I don't think McDermott is as good of a coach...and he's even more conservative. I always said I thought last season was a little flukey in terms of us being a playoff team...but I was never going to care about what the records were the first 2 seasons, I just wanted to see progression. I hate to say it...but McDermott reminds me a lot of Jauron. I know everyone wants to point out making the playoffs last year...but I believe Jauron once had a 13-3 season with the Bears. That doesn't make him a good coach. I wasn't really upset when Marrone left...I was probably overly optimistic with the Pegulas in the fold...but I just didn't expect for us to downgrade on their first 2 hires.

I hear ya. If they loved Josh Allen, I have no problem whatsoever trading all that to move up to get him. But they have to be right. And if they're not right, they'll have to most likely find the right guy in the next year or so with a much lower pick. If they loved a QB next year and weren't sure about Allen anymore, I wouldn't complain at all if they went 1st round on one again. It would be bad optics and a hard sell to pretty much everyone including ownership, the fanbase, and media...but I would rather that than have no answer at QB in 2-3 years and Allen being the only guy that we really took a swing on. The QB position is just that important.

I think I just need to see more before believing that their heads are in the right place. Yes, this roster has holes in it right now, but I'm not judging them for that. It's a rebuild, that takes some time. I also probably wasn't overly effusive in praise about making the playoffs last year. It was nice, but in all honesty I thought it was a little flukey and I knew the roster was going to be substantially different in a couple of years after that, as it needed to be. I will say what I did like was that they continued the rebuilding process after we made the playoffs, and didn't very stupidly decide to go into some kind of win-now mode. There was still a lot of roster re-shaping to do and they did understand that. It sounds like we agree on things up to that. For me, we have to have that GM/coach tandem that can find/develop a franchise QB. I believe giving them 3-4 total years is really fair, and I'm not even pigeon-holing them into that guy having to be Allen. I think if they go "all in" on him and don't bring in any other legitimate QB prospects along the way and we have nobody if the day comes where they decide Allen's not the guy, I don't really think that's anything different than the failed regimes of the past.

I like that we didn't give up any 2019 picks...however, I feel like you and a lot of people are using that to marginalize what we did give up to draft Allen. We still gave up a lot of assets to get to that pick to get him. And I'm totally fine with that, you have to have a franchise QB to be a long-term contender. If he turns out to be a big-time QB, nobody will ever care about we gave up, and rightfully so. But at the same time, I can't agree that if you're giving up that much for a guy, you can simply just shrug it off if he's a bust. I think 3-4 years is totally fair in terms of giving a regime a shot at finding a successful franchise QB. And again, I'm not even saying it has to be Allen within that time-frame. By then, they will have had the time to draft and bring in other QB's along the way to give themselves more than just 1 shot at this. That's the smart way to do it. As far as Cowher...I just can't look at it that way. If you asked me right now if I would sign up for 1 SB ring over the next 14 years, I would say no. No matter how bad a team is - and I would know - I'm a Bills, Mets, Knicks, Sabres fan..the goal for every new regime should always be to build a dynasty and long term contender. I would not sign up for finding our franchise QB in year 12 of their regime.

I'll put it this way...if by the end of the 2020 season we don't have an identified franchise QB...Beane should be out. To me, the only way he should survive if Josh Allen is a bust is if he brought in other QB's along the way and one of them emerges as the guy. If he puts everything on the line on Allen and he's a bust and we have no solution after 2 more seasons, that's his own fault.