HomeskillitMoorman

So everyone’s just forgetting this guy raped someone?

But Stars worth his pay even if he just stands there and takes up space. Or at least that’s what I’ve been told for the past few years.

I don’t think that’s a thing

I did love Andre Roberts. He was so physical as a returner and it felt like consistently got the most possible out of his returns.

Haha while I'll take it...I would never make a call like that taunting one with the game on the line.

I didn't really understand that playcall. I like creativity but why would we have wanted Diggs to throw in these conditions?

I want us to stay aggressive in terms of going for it on 4th and shorts and all...but the playcalling is still so strange in the redzone for us so much of the time though. We've dominated and are about to only be up 2...yikes.

Ohhhh Knoxie's gotta be ready for that! Always be ready!

If you’re a ND fan I think you lucked out with BK leaving. And that’s coming from someone who can’t stand ND.

Fangio to me is kind of like Bowles in the sense that I’d take him as a coordinator anyday…but the guy makes some brutal in-game errors as a head coach. I’m not sure he’s cut out for it.

I would for sure explore that. My only hesitancy is he’s prob close to being a FA right? Not sure I want to sink big bucks into that position. But we could see his impact here for a year and see what happens.

I think it’s a couple things, one that we’ve gotten run over so badly at times with seemingly no way to stop the bleeding. The other is I don’t think many of us trust this D to come up with the big stop at the end of the game. I don’t know if it would have happened this past week in NE either, which is one of the reasons I was so on board with going for it on those 4th downs.

Great stuff. I thought Dawkins was solid during the game but I really didn't pick up that he had that great a game. Hopefully he can finish strong, we need it. Rousseau has for the most part been a non-factor for a long time now. Unfortunately many predicted that's what he would be at this level.

If he balls out again, it definitely does start raising some questions about the staff after seeing McKenzie too.

Welcome back Gabe! Unless we’re treating this like prisoners who are in for marijuana use and change the rules but just leave them in there.

Oh for sure he could change my mind. Obviously not that it would change anything outside of that, I'm just a dude posting on a message board. I think McD's evolution has been slower when it comes to making those "aggressive" decisions, I'm not sure I even like calling it that because I don't really think the way he managed the game yesterday was necessarily aggressive, it was just the right thing to do. That's just how our games should be managed, it aligns with the team and QB that we have. It's playing to our strengths and I don't think he's always done that here. Where things have gone wrong for me when it comes to him is the part above and his in-game management, obviously well documented around here with things like challenges, timeouts, clock management. We saw it on the biggest of stages last year in the AFC Championship game where he really coached scared. We're still seeing things mis-managed like in the first Pats game where I thought the coaches lost the game for us. Even yesterday we saw a horrible timeout used in the 2nd half after he did the same thing in the first game, fortunately it just didn't come down to mattering yesterday. I'm not sure why these things are still issues in year 5. He's not a "new" coach anymore, not even close. I don't think he's a bad guy or anything. The only time I really had an issue with him was when he made a couple of comments about our offensive playcalling in the first Pats game. He's the head coach. He's in the conversation when those plays are called, he has the power to change things. I didn't really like the evading of accountability there when he preaches accountability consistently. It doesn't matter if he's a defensive guy, as a head coach he's supposed to be overseeing the entire game. But all in all I mostly don't want for a coach to play a big part in losing a game for us and he scares me on that end sometimes. Hopefully the rest of the way he'll keep putting the game in the hands of #17 when it matters most. We don't have a lockdown defense, banking on our best player on those 4ths instead of kicking the FG and leaving it up to our D is 100% the right thing to do with this group and what we should see the rest of the season. I'll hold out hope for better game management in terms of timeouts and challenges but I'm not as optimistic there.

Freddie, Meatball, T-McGee, and of course Moorman were my favs!

We've had QB's like this for the majority of my life. I don't even know how I got through all that anymore.

Yes I know it's ridiculous, that's why I used it. I was just putting down something a coach would never do to illustrate that the outcome doesn't necessarily equate to a call being the right or wrong one. And yes, yours was the same level. Maybe this is a better way to put it...if that last 4th and short run with Josh didn't work out yesterday...would you not want us to roll with him in a similar situation this upcoming Sunday just because it didn't work there? Would that have made it the wrong decision? I don't think so. I would still want to put the ball in the hands of #17 with the game on the line either way, to me that's our best shot at winning games like that over the long haul.

I haven't watched a ton of the Chargers, I know he's been "aggressive" with some of his calls, but some of that is honestly just how the league has trended. I feel like McD was behind on it but I think you'll even see him start to go with those decisions more and more. I don't really even see those calls to go for it on the 4th and shorts yesterday being outwardly aggressive, it's just smart. We have a top QB, give him the extra play to give us the opportunity to put up 7, especially close to the end zone where the other team has to start inside their own 5 if we don't get it anyway. As far as your other question...I've said even multiple times in this thread that I don't expect at all for the Bills to fire him or anything so I haven't done some kind of full assessment on who's available. I also don't get to be in the interview room to ask what I personally would want to, so there's that too. The only chance I thought there would be for a change was if we didn't make the playoffs this season and if we didn't meet expectations next season as well, so there would have been a long time before we looked at the pool on who's available. But I'd rather us win and not end up there, even if that means we continue with him.

The example was just to illustrate that a decision isn't necessarily the right one because of how it turns out. I was actually defending it when someone said we shouldn't have gone for one of those 4th downs yesterday, but I thought McD made the right calls on them yesterday, even if one didn't work out. Nothing's ever going to be foolproof, but I think we'll be much more successful going forward if we're aggressive like that in those situations instead of coaching scared. I would personally disagree that he's a top coach though. Just making the playoffs isn't a huge accomplishment if you have a top echelon QB. I don't think Mike McCarthy's a top flight head coach even though he's made the playoffs for most of his career, he's had Favre and Rodgers for most of it. But I know he's not going anywhere, so hopefully we can win it all with him. The good news is you can win a Superbowl without a top flight head coach. It makes it tougher but It's happened plenty of times.

No, it doesn’t necessarily. Lets say for instance we have the ball on the opposing team’s 15, down 2, 3 seconds to go. No injuries to Bass or anything. For no real logical reason McD decides to go for it instead of kicking the field goal, and we get the touchdown. I don’t think that makes it the right call, it’s not what I’d want to see called going forward in that same situation just because it worked. Similarly, if one of McD’s attempts to go for it on 4th yesterday didn’t work out, I wouldn’t all of a sudden say it was the wrong call. You can make the right decision for your team and have it not work out, and you can make the wrong one and have it work out. But if you make the right ones consistently, you’ll probably have more success overall long-term.

That awareness is what it's really all about though. I'm not a huge BB guy or anything and I think having a QB is the most important part that's going to determine any coach's record long-term...but those are the in-game things the coach does have control over. That's the same kind of recognition McD should've had in the AFC championship game last year and should've went for it on those 4th and shorts while KC was torching us on the other end. May not have changed the outcome but you gotta give your team a shot. This is the beauty of unleashing Allen though, especially if we can get him more protection. He can be absolutely lethal. The opportunity to be SB contenders long-term is there if the front office and coaches do their part.

I don't think that game necessarily had something to do with Belichick being in McD's head...I just thought it was a horribly coached game by McD and the staff. If anything I think yesterday's game supports that. Josh could throw through that wind and we didn't unleash him until late. He can own their D if we let him. McD's two horrible timeouts in the 2nd half didn't help us either. I didn't think Belichick did anything "genius" in that game...he really just let our coach lose it.