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From a talent and the possibility that he will be a star perspective, I don't think anyone is saying no we just don't want him. Would be a fantastic player if we could have the chance to get him. But first off, it takes trade assets to get there. Bare minimum you're looking at having to get to the #4 pick if you want him. Now we're talking this year's 1st. This years second. Likely a few more picks from this year. Next year's 1st and second and likely more picks thrown in. That's putting a LOT of eggs in one basket. That also has a ripple effect. Now we don't have those picks which equate to several young players at low value contracts with high upside. And you NEED that when building a roster and paying a franchise QB. To get MHJ, you would either have to overpay or severely downgrade at several spots. Oh, and you have to have a trade partner. Teams aren't always willing to move 24 spots back in the draft when they can normally move back (even they even want to) a smaller amount and stockpile picks easily as well while remaining in a spot to take another blue chip player. And guess what? Even if all that lined up, the Bills moved up to 4 and got MHJ...there is no guarantee he's going to be what people think he's going to be. You know, it's really funny to me that when people yell about MHJ, they can't help the narrative about his "bloodlines". I fall guilty of that as well. It indicates absolutely nothing. Many people don't even realize that Jerry Rice's son is in the draft as well....he's projected as a 4th rounder.

This is step one to the 49ers giving him a new contract. Didn't we see the same thing, the same speculation with Deebo couple years back?

It happened last year, though not with a first round pick swap. More or less the teams agreed to it in a "settle out of court" style agreement. That said not sure that we see a swap of first rounders. Mid to late round swap could potentially happen, though IMO https://apnews.com/article/cardinals-eagles-tampering-gannon-ossenfort-2c625742d0c227bdc43c84fc7e78ac63

I love this pick and move for Carolina. Gets their young QB a guy that has WR1 potential to grow with. Didn't give up too big a price, either. I feel bad for AD because that franchise is a perceived tire fire with a QB that may not be able to see him down field, but it's a good move nonetheless 🤣

Honestly, it would maybe be more fun a game to go back into the last and say how a prospect that we the fans (a large enough consensus anyway) wanted would have sent a ripple effect to the product we see today. Example: Josh Rosen. Would McDermott have weathered that storm? Would we have a new GM? What about the QB now? Are we set or are we arguing that Tua would be a great get if he hits FA?

The New York Giants have heard the cries of Western NY. And we've also heard you're into a WR this year. We are fully willing to send Isiah Hodgins back to Buffalo for pick 28. Heck, being we're pals, I'll throw in Jordan Phillips as well. Let me know!

Without a doubt in my mind Shoen is the "Hey, um...ya gonna eat that?" guy in most office break rooms. Wouldn't shock me at this point if Brandon Beane has a quarter of a meatball sub left from lunch that Joe's waiting out to see if he can swipe.

I think it's normal for most people to question some things. We've seen it throughput time with most historical events. There's always going to be a section of people that don't think what we see is the whole story and sometimes it's even proven over time to be right But this dude has alternative opinions and beliefs about almost everything. That's where I believe it crosses from normal to possibly dangerous to someone's mental health. Football wise, I wonder how hard it would be to, over the course of a game, get in Rodgers head about some of these theories he has. Start asking him questions on the field about RFK Jr, or that doctor he's so enamored with. Ask him what he thinks about the moon landing or if he's heard that chupacabra's are real and the CIA has thousands in captivity that they are training to be super soldiers in combat. I'm betting it's easy to make him lose focus these days.

What? Johnny Cochran has been there for years.

The Giants starting TE is debating retirement as well. Word must have got out that Buffalo isn't the only place to be to retire in training camp.

I'll say this. Once in a while a thread comes along that is an absolute GODSEND. It not only reminds me that there is indeed a block feature on this site but it affords me the opportunity to scroll through and makes some new members of the club.

One of the all time greatest football players. One of the all time worst human beings.

And what kind of value would you expect another GM to place on a player that you describe yourself as having "availability issues coming off a knees injury"? This would actually be a "sell low" situation for Milano.

Honestly, the best part of the move is the near $27M cap space that opens up for next year plus the extra 2nd rounder. With just a few logical moves next off-season, the Bills can easily have near $70M cap space if needed. Not only would that go a long way in FA, but there's a couple you g guys in line for new deals (Brown and Groot) and it wouldn't shock me if they rework Josh's deal to get his salary more in line with his performance.

Ricky Williams. Relevant because back in those eras a RB was equal to the importance of the WR position these days IMO. Had a very solid career. Was absolutely not worth an entire draft worth of picks.

Doesn't matter who the WR is, what his production ends up being or how long he's in Buffalo. They aren't living up to the hype of that trade IMO.

The team that won the last 2 Super Bowls did it with a FedEx driver, plumber and my daughter's gym coach at WR. With a step forward from Kincaid and a step forward from Shakir, the scenario that makes me comfortable is that Joe Brady gets to cook with players he has a plan for. That combined with the running game with Cook and Josh Allen being really good at football make me believe we'll be able to score points and move the football.

Rome would have been the pick there in that situation if a trade back couldn't happen. Most likely would have seen me with Rome and then try and trade up into the backend of 1st or high in round 2 if Penix was there to combine the 2.

Yeah fully agree. Anytime you get a chance to send a feeler to 80085, you gotta take it.

Somewhat surprised that the Saints or Raiders weren't in on this pick. Of course now knowing McCarthy may slip past 11 makes it less urgent to slide up...lol

With the 17 games schedule teams are "losing" 1 home game that already had 9, for the most part. It's really not a huge issue.

There had been a trade. @Alphadawg7and the Arizona Cardinals are on the clock. Will be pick? Does he have another trade in the "Cards"? Stay tuned...

I mean, then it's not really a "home" opener. The home opener would be the 2nd home game on their schedule. Both teams basically road teams in Brazil.

I would have said "I'm going offense". I like McCarthy. I think he's better than most give him credit for. But I'm not crazy about him in the top 10. Seems like he's had a Christian Ponder-esque Draft season. If this played out the way the no trade draft went, Daniels would have been the QB I moved up for. If it's "your guy" it's not too much of a price. Could have sat by and easily seen Nabers and Harrison come off the board. Rome is a great prize still, but the film on Harrison is just shockingly good. I call it "controlled aggressive". Give up some, but not backbreaking and go get your guy

With the 4th pick of the NFL Draft, the New York Giants select: MARVIN HARRISON JR, WR, OHIO ST. Not a QB? Nope. Here's the thing. We need playmakers. We let Saquon walk. We have a few role players at WR. And we have an aging TE that isn't even sure if he's playing next year. This offense isn't a QB away. Our best playmaker was Motor Singletary. We liked all of the "Big 3 WRs" on the board but would much rather give up a little extra to dictate who we take rather than have the choice made for us. Our jobs are on the line. Enter Harrison. Yes, he chose to not workout at the Combine or his Pro Day. But he's been working on being "season ready" in place of the underwear games of an NFL recruits off season. Coming from remarkable NFL WR bloodlines, this explosive WR is ready to hit the ground running (and catching) on Day 1. @TOboyand the Los Angeles Chargers are on the clock.