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What it tells me is that the person with the closest mouth to Jackson's ear really doesn't know what's going on and how to do things in the best interest of both team and player. Raises a flag that this person may just not be someone who I want to do business with. Raises a flag to me at least that he's someone that needs work, yet his top advocate has zero connections to or within the league or knows what kind of off season coaches he should work with to help him. Combine that with the low Wonderic and his flat out refusal to run a 40 and there are all kinds of small flags popping up at the wrong time for him. I've been a strong Jackson supporter for a while. I think his ability is far beyond anyone else in the draft as a playmaker. I've hated that he gets crucified for the same faults Allen has...but Allen is a top guy. Just the way everything pops up it's not looking good for him imo.

I've been a big Jackson supporter for sometime now. Even I'm questioning him at this point. His ability to be a playmaker is unparalleled. In a good setting I could see him being something really special. With his mom agent making meetings and visits hard, his refusal to comply with what perspective employers want to see most (40 time) and now the low scores....nothing in and of itself is condemning but added all together I have to question whether he will be able to develop the way he could. Mom's got his "best interest at heart" but I sincerely doubt she's got QB coaches on speed dial, or she's got any way to know how the internal NFL works. He's being set up to fail and not succeed.

On his latest podcast, former NFL scout @JohnMiddlekauff revealed the Wonderlic scores for some of the big time QBs: Josh Allen 37 Josh Rosen 29 Sam Darnold 28 Baker Mayfield 25 Lamar Jackson 13 i stink at adding the fancy embedded part...but there ya go

I'm almost sure this was it. But with that 13 he got on the Wonderic, who knows what his thinking was.

I found it odd that the analyst team kept saying "If you draft this kid in round 1 or round 2" Don't remember them saying round 2 for the other guys. Maybe the mom agent is shying people away. Not being easy to schedule or get to know hurts as well. Add not running the 40 and it's at least fair to wonder if teams will think he's going to be difficult to work with. He's slower than Usain Bolt, faster than Vita Vea.

Those guys have agents. Mel Kiper (and likely others) have pockets that can be lined.

He's not running 40 at pro day.

Just a suggestion of course, but it's a good day to go be a Rams fan. Roster is so stacked Jeff Fisher could go 9-7 with it. http://ramsrule.com/herd/index.php

I think people should be held accountable for this type stuff. I'd say if the Bills draft Mayfield or Jackson you really should leave...and if you don't the mods should assist.

No, but not necessarily because of AJ. This is a roster that IMO overachieved a tad last year, then got weaker in the off-season. We have no LBs outside possibly Milano right now. We have a healing KB and not much else at WR. Any QB we start this season will have limited experience in NFL games. Now, we could still sign some post draft cuts, hit well in the draft and find some players that are upgrades, but as of right now there is no way I'd see this roster make a playoff run. So does Tim Tebow.

Agree. His negatives are almost the same as Josh Allen, yet Allen has an amazing upside and Jackson should "play WR". Of course one has an agent that has the publicity wheel spinning in his favor and one doesn't. I think they have about the same ceiling and Jackson is a much superior all around athlete. Winning cures all. Had we drafted Watson last year and he flashed the way he did and got us to a playoff game, would the anti Tyrod crowd still hate Watson?

So, the big takeaways here are Mead dreams of big men and eats nuts. Not that they are related. Or that there is anything wrong if they are.

What if the Pats take Rudolph themselves?

Welp

Man, Geno keep getting opportunity and the guy who kneels doesn't. Obvious racis...uh..oh right.

Difference there was RGIII was severely mismanaged. What didn't do him good was Shannahan.

If he starts day 1 I can easily see your point. Give him a couple years with the time to pack on some muscle in an NFL weight room and I can see him doing well.

Says you. Unless your crystal ball is on point you have no way of knowing how anyone will develop. Getting a top QB prospect this year and a host of other picks to help rebuild what's in place would be the best move he can make imo. Trading Beckham leaves a huge hole. With FA all but done they have to try and draft a replacement. Shepherd isn't really a huge threat at this point and Marshall is 79 years old. Jackson can sit and learn from Eli for 1-3 years.Would be a good spot for his development imo.

Unless the do something like, trade out of 2 with us. Take 12, 22 plus extras and look for Jackson/Rudolph. They could use 12 on Jackson and still end up with 2 first rounders for solid players.

User name checks out. Obviously I was referring draft pick spots.

Baker at 6-10ish and a LB at 22 is best for business.

I will see your Kolb/Leinart and raise you Brian Brohm and Vince Young. With Levi Brown waving from behind them.

Ridiculous if the list does not include Gibran Hamden..

Very nice thread. I just hope Beane gets the guy he wants at a price that is sensible.

Pegula is not good at poker methinks. Like when he's answering about moving up and nodding his head yes at the same time. That's what you call a tell. More you argue more it goes to the top of the page. Best way to kill it is stop responding.