BuffaloBillyG

LOVE it! Last year we were the toast of the NFL in the preseason and first month of the season. Every team brought their "A" game. I'm hoping that this year it's the Bills that get a chip on their shoulder and play to prove something. I mean, Acho is an idiot and just says things to get attention. But I do think a LOT of media will be off the Bills bandwagon this year.

Opa, looks like someone came back. Must have got that new Fisher Price Speak and Say with WiFi ability. The cow says "moo," Jimmy. The cow says "moo".

You say $1.3M like that's a high end deal. It's really not. The Bills cut OJ Howard after one TC and ate around $3M in dead cap alone. As far as "Going against what he said"...2 points to make there. First, you do realize that when players do these press conferences they are just saying what needs to be said, right? Hitting the checklist so to speak. "Play in front of the best fans in the NFL" or "Win a ring"...these are things that get the fans to say "Oh I like this dude". Second, players have lives, hopes and goals outside of a football field. Sounds weird...but like us they are more than their job. Is his priority carrying a football or setting himself up for life after football? I have no idea what his mindset is....but neither do you. Murray has also eluded to his goals in the local community. This Center he's opening is proof of that and him trying to plant roots around here. As far as am I making stuff up...well, I have said that I am going by a gut feeling. So, in a sense of the word, yeah...it's kind of what people do on a message board. Offer their read on a situation. Also, there have been quite a few times where a player on the PS will turn down an offer for a roster spot with another team to stay where they are. This isn't unheard of. Especially when it's something the team has discussed with a player and laid a plan out before hand. The Bills would also have the option to elevate Murray to the active roster should another team try and poach him. Last year he started out on the Saints PS. Shows he's open to a practice squad slot, does it not? Further more, should another team come sniffing around for him The Bills have the option to elevate him off the PS to the active roster to block it. The Saints chose not to last year when the Broncos came for him. And the Broncos came after him only when they lost...what 4 RBs before that? And not one other team had come after him before that.

Few things stood out for me: - I love how involved Terry Pegula is without taking control. He's knowledgeable but lets his football guys make the decision. - I realize footage can be spliced anyway they want it and I am certain a lot hit the cutting room floor....but Beane has a real good feel for the way boards will fall. - On one of the plays they show for Torrence they show him pulling and leading a run play. Maybe not as nimble as some...but gets to his spot and seals off a wall. Great play. - Hard not to like Dorian Williams as a person. Skepticism aside...he will be one that's easy to root for. I think he'll surprise some here. - Everytime I hear Beane talk about Shorter I can't help but to think of things he had to say about Hodgins last year. Likes the size AND that he can play ST...which is one big reason Hodgins was expendable to them. - Torrence has a cat named CeeCee.

I swear everytime this thread gets bumped my initial reaction is "Oh, FFS what is it now?"

Like I said, just a gut feeling, but I think he's in the 'more than football" stage of his career. They very well may have given him a slightly higher guarantee to get him to agree to this kind of placement. FWIW, Buffalo did the same IIRC with Duke Johnson last year at the start of the season. Besides, with 3 call-ups and the better than average chance we get injury to the RB room...even if he starts on PS I would figure he'll be moved up by the end of the year. Good way to keep the old guy fresh as well haha

Could very well be. However with his off field endeavors, I could honestly see him turning down an active spot with another team to stay here and get that underway and running. Hence the "wink and nod" where if there is a roster spot needed he's one to get put on PS with the mutual understanding that he's staying local.

The bigger question may very well be: If he's cut why would he want to come back and potentially be buried on the Bills depth chart? Have to imagine he would have options for some teams that have a path for him to see the field. CBs are always in demand.

9:30am? Going to have to start GameDay drinking the night before...

I mean, I do mention that he could very well end up on the roster. However, seems to me more like he would profile as the direct backup to Harris in the power game. As for the part I bolded: It's always a risk to assume a players thought process. We don't know what his train of thought is. Perhaps he wants to be on the field and play every snap he can. Perhaps he wouldn't mind a lighter workload than he had last year as his pursuits aren't limited to just football. Coming back here and already setting up post career avenues was however a clear indicator that he sees a bigger picture than just carrying a football for the next 2-3 years.

Maybe. Not likely, but who knows. Seems like another case of fans projecting what they think into what the Bills may do.

Well, that's the thing these days. Most fans subscribe to the "Fantasy Football Mentality". If a WR or TE isn't lighting up the stat sheet...he's garbage. A lot of guys make real world contributions to the team and game without the stats. Having football players who are good at playing all the nuances of the game still matters.

He does, sure. But Jones was a RB by name only. His spot isn't necessary reserved for a RB...it's going to go to whomever the ST replacement is for him. Could be an extra WR or DB just as easily active on GameDay. Murray doesn't play ST.

Yea, what a horrible type player to have. A guy that works hard, will play whatever snaps he can get and has a team first attitude. I suppose those snaps on ST could just be eaten up by someone like Diggs, put him out there for that crap, right? Or maybe make Allen the first QB/ST Gunner. That's a solid plan. As unpopular as it is with certain portions of a fanbase every roster in the NFL has players like this...because every roster in the NFL NEEDS players like this.

It wouldn't shock me if Murray ended up on the PS. Not saying he won't make the active roster...he definitely can. However, I feel like him coming to Buffalo is more of him seeing a final paycheck before retirement. The added incentive of being able to be home and set up his post career life with outstanding contributions like this that he wants to be a part of and oversee. The bonus would be the Bills would free up a roster spot and have him if injury hits (I like Harris but his health is a question) and he gets time in the local area to set up. If we need him he's there to play and I believe he would play well. Could very well have an understanding and a "wink and nod" agreement with the Bills of this is the case.

The NFL can employ him. There are 32 teams that can sign him. Unfortunately, or fortunately (however you choose to look at it) the position in Buffalo has been filled with a solid player. There isn't an opening here. That leaves 31 other teams that are welcome to bring him in and I hope one does. Buffalo did what they did a year ago because at the time that was the best thing for all parties involved. Time to move on.

I don't care what Allen does, what his social life is like or who he's dating. I'm hoping he took a bit of time and made it out to Jordan Palmer...but it's his life. On another note I see a lot of people that were quick to bag on Baker Mayfield for endorsements and social life defending Josh. Kinda funny actually.

Geary seems more of a White Claw fella to me.

I think week 1 the lineup is: LT: Dawkins LG: McGovern 😄Morse RG: Bates RT: Brown Doyle should get his TE eligible "6th lineman" spot back as he played well there before injury. At some point there will be injury to the IOL, Bates will shuffle to that spot (if it's not him of course) and Torrance takes over RG. Once he gets out there Torrence won't see the bench again. span widget

Joe Cribbs

Cool. Cool. Nice. Hey, completely unrelated but does anyone know if Josh made it out to work with Jordan Palmer this off-season or is he past that?

Ok. So, how did he look in those 508 snaps?

When it comes to Lamar...there are a lot of people that say he's not a top 10 QB in the NFL. Thing is, he is...but it has a lot more to do with the level of QB play than it does about his skill to play QB. That list has Watson at 10. Personal opinion about the person aside, what did he show as a player last year (after being moth balled the previous year) that even suggests he's in the convo for top 20 QBs? He was awful. Danny Dimes threw a whopping 15 TDs was it last year? Yet he's on the list as above the middle of the pack. I don't think there has been a period of mediocre starting QBs in the NFL like this in a long time.

Here's my thought process about Allen, Burrow and Mahomes. Mahomes: If you put Allen or Burrow on the Chiefs instead of Mahomes...where do they finish last year? My opinion is with Allen they still win the Super Bowl. With Burrow I don't know that he elevates JuJu and Toney to be viable weapons. Allen: Put Burrow or Mahomes on the Bills last year. Same question. I think with Mahomes we make it at least to the AFCCG. With Burrow MAYBE make it past the Wild Card round with the injuries this team had. Burrow: Put Allen or Mahomes on the Bengals...with those weapons outside? I feel like the Bengals would win the Super Bowl by 20 at least. While I believe Burrow may be talented and cool under pressure...does he elevate the talent around him on offense or do they elevate him? Both Allen and Mahomes 1 elite receiving talent and then some nice complimentary pieces...Burrow has far more around him on offense. Mahomes had the best OL of the 3 blocking for him. Not an elite line, but better than what Burrow or Allen had. Both Burrow and Mahomes were supported by an offensive minded HC (and in Mahomes case he's had the benefit of not only Andy, but EB, Nagy who is a bad HC but good offensive mind and Mike Kafka....who killed it as a 1st year OC with the talent depleted Giants). Allen has had far less in the coaching ranks on offense.Heck the first QB coach they gave Allen was Dave Culley...who wasn't a QB coach. So, when I talk all of the above into consideration I'm left with this: Mahomes is the king. But he was built that way with the support of an excellent offensive staff. Given every opportunity to be a success. But he's like that rich kid that gets a Mercedes for his birthday and cries because it's blue and not red. He's had every advantage since entering the league and to his credit has taken advantage of it. Burrow is a darn good player. He has been handed the keys to a Corvette and he looks really Cool driving it. But I personally think it's the car that makes him popular. Put him in a clunker and he just doesn't have enough to shine on his own. Allen is the epitomy of that blue collar farm kid. He's given a rusty old truck for his 16th birthday. It's his talent and drive that rebuild that clunker into a custom truck that can compete with the flashy rides that Mahomes and Burrow drive.

Nope. He had that 1 storybook ending of a season and is closer to out of the league than being useful on the field now.