BuffaloBillyG

Well thought out and broken down. Appears bwe agree on the vast majority. One thing I will say is when it comes to dollar investments, Beane isn't afraid to cut bait on someone that isn't providing what they thought they would get. Case in point just last year: OJ Howard who was (IIRC) about $3M in dead cash after getting the boot. If someone like Harris doesn't meet standard (I believe he will...always been a fan of his talents) Beane with ear some dead money if he has to.

I am going with Dorian Williams, honestly. I think he will shine when the pads come on and light up the preseason. He will be the guy coming into the season that the fans yell SHOULD be starting...while Dodson starts at MLB opening game. Dodson will be on the seat for message board whipping boy by week 4 no matter how he looks because people will want Williams and his downhill play style.

Thread title is misleading. Josh Allen actually wears #17 NOT #1. We have been over this people.

Past years I would agree with you. This group (on paper) seems to be a step or two above middling on the whole. You have Dawkins and Morse that are locked in. Torrence has a skillset that could land him anywhere from very solid to just below elite level. Then you have McGovern and Edwards...both have showed above average in the past (Edwards is coming off down year). Bates I would put at league average. The rest of the reserves are on par with reserve linemen around the NFL. Brown is the only big question mark but he showed well his rookie season as well before a down year with a bum back. Doyle is VERY underrated in that 6th lineman/tackle eligible role he had 2 years ago. And dude is tough as nails. There are questions, sure. And we need at LEAST one of Torrence, Bates and Edwards to take the RG job and make it theirs. But as a whole at least this year there are multiple bullets in the OLine gun. Just need a guy or two to step up.

I think the assessment is a fair one, however the ranking is low. Having him under Staley, McCarthy and Rivera (and others listed higher) is a slap in the face. Arthur Smith? Really?

One name I saw are really liked before was the RedHogs. Plays well into their team history. Fans have always showed up with pig noses to honor the OL (The Hogs). Color scheme would work, they could use the "Hail to the Redskins" song..just switch it up a small bit. And the mascot/branding/merchandising would be really easy.

Well, in response, I did say it isn't likely on the OP. And to the point of your response: According to Over The Cap trading Morse after June 1st leaves $3M in dead money. Cap savings would be $8.3M. Agree that he likely is safe for at least 1 more year. However, being cap strapped leads teams to do things sometimes a year earlier than they normally would want to. So while not very likely (as I said in the OP) it would be an option especially if they had ANY internal reservation about Mitch's concussion history. Yes he and Josh have several years together. So did Josh and Beasley. Josh and Brown. Players always play with new teammates. Morse won't be here Josh's whole career.

Oh I wasn't trying to correct anything. If an argument could be made I just would have liked to hear it for the sake of seeing other perspective on OL positions. I always say every opportunity is a learning opportunity...and that I includes opinions I may not share initially.

I would actually like to hear that argument. Why could it be argued that the RT is more important then the LT position which covers a QBs backside? Or a C that not only handles the ball but more times than not makes the calls on blocking? I could even argue that either G spot is more important just by showing all the footage from quick pressure in Allen's face right at the snap and lack of push inside on running plays.

Don't need to block a rusher if it takes 3 Ubers and a bus ride to get around you.

"If Nate Peterman can still have a job as a QB in this league...my options are open if the coaching thing doesn't work out, boys."

I selected week 8 vs Tampa. My thinking is he said he would be ready by week 6 at the latest. Which means even if he's ready the Bills like to slow play guys coming back from injury. I could see him back on the practice field week 6 and a couple weeks where he's "close" bit not quite up to football condition yet. Week 8 gives him his season debut in front of the home fans and a game to tune up before he gets to wreck Burrow and the Bungles.

A LOT of really good camp battles this year IMO not only for a few starting spots but the end of roster battle should prove heated as well. QB: Pretty much what you see will be what you get. Unless Kyle Allen falls on his face he's the back up. Bills COULD keep Barkley on active roster due to new emergency QB rule but I don't see it. RB: I would say Cook is the only "lock" in this room with Hines, Harris and Murray close to it. Maybe one of the young backs surprises and makes it interesting...but I feel like they are playing for a PS spot. WR: Diggs and Davis are locked. Sherfield seems to have made an early impression on Josh based on yesterday's presser. Shakir seems safe and Harty likely makes it. Shorter seems to have an inside track to a spot. That's 6 with the rest of the guys battling for PS or a possible 7th WR spot. TE: Obviously Knox and Kincaid are locked. Morris has a good shot to make it or a PS spot. Don't see the others as more than camp bodies...but they may push Morris. OL: Room looks MUCH deeper than last year. Lots of ways this could go. Dawkins, Torrence, McGovern and Brown seem to be locks. Morse as well, however if Torrence AND Edwards show up well...could it push the Bills to slide Bates to Center, trade Morse and save about $10M off the cap? Most likely not, however the room is deep with guys The Bills like. Doyle, Ike, Q...I expect one of these guys traded late in the preseason for a late round pick. Beane LOVES to do that if he can. DE: Von and Groot are locked...but Von could possibly start on the PUP giving the Bills an extra spot. I see it as AJE, Basham, Lawson and Shane Ray competing for 2 spots maybe 3. DT: Oliver, Ford and Jones are likely in. Settle and Phillips may be challenged by Bryant or Ankou. LB: THE competition of this preseason IMO. Any one of about 5 guys may step up and ***** that MLB spot. Milano and Williams are the only guaranteed guys that make the roster with Dodson maybe the next most likely. CB: White, Elam, Jackson, Johnson and Benford all should make the cut. Neal is likely as well due to ST play. Yes, the Bills will keep some ST players. Every team needs em. S: Suddenly a deep room filled with competition. Poyer and Hyde-locks. Rapp very likely is in. 2 wild cards here are- Hamlin and his health and if he plays the way he did or plays timid. And Zayne Anderson. Very solid STer that could push someone like Neal for his roster spot potentially. The ST unit remains intact. All in all I have 35 guys as "roster locks" and another 12-14 as "almost locks". We are going to be letting some good football players hit waivers for sure. Deep rosters have that issue. Hopefully we land a bunch back on our PS.

Did Aaron give his blessing? Will he need a week in a dark isolation chamber to contemplate the ramification of switching punters? Will the New York/Jersey media leave the story be or will they make it a season long story that serves as a distraction? Will Lazard get "hit in the gonads" again today? Will Saleh FINALLY reveal the secret to how he gets his head so shiny? All this and MORE on the next episode of "J-E-S-T SUCK SUCK SUCK"

Mancz, Murray and Milano headed to Arizona for DHop, confirmed. Diggs is waiting at the airport for him now. Morse, Miller, Poyer and Phillips (former DHop teammate) were prepping the welcome party, thus could not participate.

I bet none of his teammates will show up to his birthday party this year, either.

Harland Williams. Oddly enough he's become something of a kids TV star. Not only has he authored a line of children's books..he created, writes, produces and provides one of the voices to Disney Channel kids cartoon "Puppy Dog Pals". My kids have watched it for years and it's actually kinda funny.

I'm not concerned at all about the injury. Timeline wise he should be physically back to his normal self. However, last year he did seem to have issues with not having his mind right when it came to getting back on the field. Call it a mental block if you will...but the injury was definitely in his head last year. Frazier basically confirmed that without saying it IMO. That mental block is what he needs to overcome. And I believe he can and will.

I was always under the impression the wristband had nude photos of the cast of Golden Girls on it. 🤷🏼‍♂️

LT: Dawkins LG: McGovern 😄 Morse RG: Bates RT: Brown IMO this is what opens the season. At some point one of the IOL guys will miss some time to injury...pretty likely. Torrence steps in and doesn't come off the field. Come the end of the year barring long term injury: Same as above with Torrence replacing Bates. Bates moves to primary backup for the 3 IOL positions.

Makes sense. Saffold doesn't help his case here with a lazy looking rep on this play, for sure. It does, at least appear he thought he had help....but even if he had it he didn't look ready to even assist. Hopefully, the arrival of McGovern is a step up for the pass pro so Allen doesn't have that instant pressure right in his face all season, again. Thank you for the insight as well.

Saffold was hot garbage last year. No denial there. However, to my untrained eye it looks like on this play it was Morse that blew the assignment. With where the DTs are lined up...Saffold's guy lined inside and Bates's guy outside his right shoulder...it appears that Morse should have slid protection left and picked up the DT lined up between him and Saffold. And it looks like that's what Saffold expected. Now, no excuse for him just standing there and not looking for work after he was blown past. But with the RB sliding to the right and Bates moving that way it created a huge space for the DT to come up the middle with no help. Don't know if that was play design or bad communication or just a missed call on Morse's part.

If only the NFL had a list they can place players on that are pending legal investigation to remove them from the active roster and keep them secure in their job. Maybe the Commissioner can head that up. In all seriousness, with the rising amount of NFL players that are either legitimately in trouble with the law or are accused pending criminal investigation, it may be time that the NFL considers placing guys under investigation on an exempt list and letting the legal stuff work out before expecting a team to cut them or, like Watson with Houston...send him home all year with pay.

So, a few quarters of play and 1 game (out of 18 played) aren't "spot duty"? We must have different definitions lol. To your point, I agree that the coaches were able to see that he wasn't ready for primetime last year. The said as much after drafting the kid as well. They knew he would need time. He's now had a full season, a complete off season where coach said he was in town learning the whole off-season (along with Spector) and will have a 2nd TC. Should be a better chance to see if he took steps forward IMO.

Fair point to remember is....the guy that "pops out" on TV isn't necessarily the guy that coaching staffs may tag the winner. It's about who has command of their assignments. Who adds the most. Remember, coaches aren't fans and do not solely based their decision on box scores and who gets their name announced on the broadcast the most. However the preseason shakes out, I think the safest bet is that no matter how anyone looks... McDermott will most likely start Dodson for his experience to begin the season provided one of the young guys doesn't make it impossible to keep off the field.