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I didnt think he was as bad as last week,but honestly its not looking good. They will try to build around him in the offseason, but not sure its going to matter. Rosen has not been lights out yet but hes just a naturally better passer. He wins that game yesterday with the way our defense played. We may live to regret that decision for years

No but the d was awesome today. You can only ask for so much when the offense barely gets a first down. Mcd getting frazier to be more aggressive has been huge

Im not giving up on allen quite yet but i wanted rosen badly all throughout the process for months. Im really not sure what they were thinking other than he might be a jerk And btw im fine with my qb being that way. I didnt think allen was that bad today but hes not seeing things early. Rosen was my #1 qb and it wasnt close. We might regret that for years

True but i thought last week he was way worse than today. Thats just imo.

I didnt really think he was that bad this week imo. Had a huge play called back cause the fb wasnt lined up right.

Mcd getting frazier to be more aggressive has been a godsend.

Why wouldnt he be in the locker room for an xray then?

Knowing philly has two second rounders, i would hold firm trying to get one of them. We actually have the leverage here for once. If anyone wants to see this happen, and im not sure i do, root hard for the giants tonight

Who says theyd be one and done? If they get in they could make a run its been done before

Shady in his pc today sounded to me like he wants to go back home. Ive always thought that anyways, and we know he didnt want to leave. Between his and mcdermotts pc's today imo its only a matter of time before it happens

Not sure about that. They might make a move even quicker if they lose tomorrow Nfc east isnt that good right now. 9-7 could win that division

Watching that pc, i came away thinking hes getting traded. I think theyd rather wait a few weeks to see where we are at the deadline, but if the offer is strong enough for them they may not be able to wait long. When you break it down, it makes too much sense to do it but id feel a lot better about it if allen wasnt playing.

Depends on what they are willing to give up. If they are desperate and throw a 2nd out, you have to seriously consider that. Shady is obviously not in the long term plans here. On the other hand we had nothing offensively last week besides him and that has been the case basically his whole time here. If we werent playing allen right now it would probably be a no brainer to pull the trigger. I could see beane wanting to do it but mcdermott not agreeing

That was the play of the game imo. Shady knew it was man coverage and saw him overpursuing, great play

The problem is you cant keep relying on the d to force turnovers. Ive been optimistic with allen, but this game is not a good barometer. I didnt think he was as inaccurate as his wyoming stats showed but today hes really all over the place.

Sadly im not sure allens accuracy will ever be fixed. Most of the time you either have it or you dont, and this game its really rearing its ugly head. Its not good at all.

None of the qbs from that draft turned out to be a franchise qb so it is what it is. We had to take one there or else. I dont really put the shaq lawson pick squarely on whaley either. Imo rex had his hands all over that one

If beane can get anything for either one, i dont think he would care. We traded dareus for a 5th. Hes prolly itching to get that 7th back we gave up for coleman.

He cant rush off the edge, so might as well try to do something different. Still would be light for a 3 tech. Massive bust either way

I feel like this will be shadys last year here. He looked a little slower to me today, i know hes not 100% but the writing is on the wall.

Ive been saying that for years too.

How was that ruled a !@#$ing fumble? Are you kidding me?

Oh right cause on the play when he threw the pick nobody was on him as soon as the ball was snapped? Horrible throw but cmon

Allen hasnt played well either but what do you honestly expect when every time you take a drop someone is in your face? The ones that are more concerning to me are when he actually has time he still wants to roll out instead of stepping up. We have by far the worst wr group in the league too. Even when kb manages to catch the ball he still almost fumbles. There is absolutely no way we should resign him. No way.

Weve been awful but hughes was held practically the entire first half and nothing was called. Blatant holding too. But no calls going against us is par for the course