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Tua is amazing. His brother committed to Alabama as a QB and he looks like a stud too. Hurts is a great kid as is Tua. I suspect that Saban stuck with Hurts because he didn't want to disrupt the locker room. Tua is clearly a more talented passer. This play was amazing.

Good article about Daboll. He was right on Tua. https://buffalonews.com/2018/01/18/report-why-new-bills-offensive-coordinator-brian-daboll-left-alabama/ That's true. I don't know what happened his second year. As you say,maybe it was personnel or he got figured out, or a combination.

I checked the OL for Alabama between 2016 and 2017. I am assuming that's where most of the penalties came from. Cam Robinson went to the NFL, but otherwise there was mostly reshuffling. Maybe we can credit Daboll for the reduction in penalties. You can always hope.

The Jets offense was pretty good the two years he was there. I hope he is enjoying retirement. He seems like a great guy.

Yes, I noticed that penalties went down. Hopefully that was the result of Daboll's coaching and not a change in players. I honestly don't recall what changed there were to the offensive line for 2016 vs 2017. I suspect he may have been more of a disciplinarian that Kiffin.

Weren't that three or four Willams' on the team at one point? If y'all had gotten Willams' jerseys you would have been covered.

Agreed. They were under the gun last year to find an offensive coordinator and their first choice didn't pan out. i think Daboll was was a well reasoned hire. No one knows how it will work out, but why not hope for the best? He's respected enough that a lot of good head coaches have hired him.

One man's opinion.

Curious why Chan Gailey was out of football for 2 years after the Bills fired him.

The negativity is so over the top. Geez.

A little premature on the pronouncement, don't you think? Rex frequently tried 12 and that didn't work out so well.

If you have a meddling head coach that doesn't let the offensive coordinator execute his strategy, can you blame the coordinator? There is a lot that happens that we don't know about.

Allegedly. Daboll wanted to start Tua. Who knows what the numbers would have looked like in that case. He couldn't elevate Hurts' game. Is that on Daboll? I don't know, but I don't think so. Hurts just isn't a good passer.

2016 Team Stats Passing Rushing Total Offense First Downs Penalties Turnovers Split G Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg Pass Rush Pen Tot No. Yds Fum Int Tot Offense 15 17.7 27.8 63.5 210.3 1.7 42.6 245.0 5.8 2.2 70.4 455.3 6.5 8.1 12.1 0.8 21.0 5.7 44.0 0.7 0.6 1.3 Defense 15 18.2 33.8 53.8 197.9 1.0 31.7 63.9 2.0 0.3 65.5 261.8 4.0 8.3 4.7 1.4 14.5 3.9 31.4 0.9 1.1 1.9 Difference -0.5 -6.0 +9.7 +12.4 +0.7 +10.9 +181.1 +3.8 +1.9 +4.9 +193.5 +2.5 -0.2 +7.4 -0.6 +6.5 +1.8 +12.6 -0.2 -0.5 -0.6 2017 Team Stats Passing Rushing Total Offense First Downs Penalties Turnovers Split G Cmp Att Pct Yds TD Att Yds Avg TD Plays Yds Avg Pass Rush Pen Tot No. Yds Fum Int Tot Offense 14 14.6 23.8 61.3 193.4 2.0 43.7 250.6 5.7 2.6 67.5 444.1 6.6 8.6 12.4 1.4 22.2 4.9 40.6 0.5 0.2 0.7 Defense 14 16.4 30.4 53.8 165.7 0.6 34.7 95.7 2.8 0.6 65.1 261.4 4.0 8.1 5.4 1.8 15.4 4.4 32.5 0.4 1.4 1.7 Difference -1.8 -6.6 +7.5 +27.7 +1.4 +9.0 +154.9 +2.9 +2.0 +2.4 +182.7 +2.6 +0.5 +7.0 -0.4 +6.8 +0.5 +8.1 +0.1 -1.2 -1.0 Alabama team stats for 2016 vs 2017. Most values are per game averages. Rosters in college football turnover so much year to year, who knows what to make of this. At first glance, from the stats alone, the differences don't look statistically significant to me. Arguably the passing game wasn't as good.

I'm missing what I need to keep up with? Has he learned anything? who knows. If not, we made a bad hire based on his track record, according to you. Correct me if I have misstated anything.

If you don't think talent matters, watch the first half and the second half of the Alabama vs Georgia game. The only difference was the QB. Was it Daboll's fault that he couldn't elevate the play of the QB in the first half? An offensive coordinator isn't a miracle worker that can create a skill level that doesn't exist.

Unless you have a crystal ball and can predict the future, I don't see where we are heading with the discussion. I am relaxed, dude and I added a highly intelligent comment. Maybe you missed it, dude. "He's been hired by a lot of good coaches, including McDermott and they know more that we do. I choose to be optimistic."

You need some modicum of talent. He took Miami from 30th offense to 20th. Saban hired him. He can't be too bad. Who knows. Maybe he sucks and we hired a loser. That seems to be what you are implying, unless I am misreading your sentiment. He's been hired by a lot of good coaches, including McDermott and they know more that we do. I choose to be optimistic.

What track record are you referring to? If is the the 2009 and 2010 Browns. he had a horrible roster. 2009 Browns Quarterbacks 3 Derek Anderson 5 Brett Ratliff Running backs 29 Thomas Brown 35 Jerome Harrison 34 Chris Jennings 47 Lawrence Vickers FB Wide receivers 85 Jake Allen 16 Josh Cribbs RS 87 Mike Furrey 11 Mohamed Massaquoi 80 Brian Robiskie 88 Chansi Stuckey Tight ends 83 Greg Estandia 86 Michael Gaines 89 Evan Moore 84 Robert Royal 2010 Browns Quarterbacks 17 Jake Delhomme 12 Colt McCoy 6 Seneca Wallace Running backs 22 Mike Bell 40 Peyton Hillis 47 Lawrence Vickers FB Wide receivers 16 Josh Cribbs RS 11 Mohamed Massaquoi 18 Carlton Mitchell 10 Jordan Norwood 80 Brian Robiskie 83 Chansi Stuckey 88 Demetrius Williams Tight ends 84 Robert Royal 81 Alex Smith 82 Benjamin Watson

Benedict Arnold. Oh, wait, he's a former Patriot.

The point of the story was to challenge the conception that college football players are exploited. Jones got two accounting degrees for free playing a game he loves and is well established for life after football. When he was injured, he got world class medical care. If some players don’t take advantage of the opportunity to get an education, it’s their fault.

James Hardy. It really didn’t work out for him.

Do you have a Ricky Ricardo to go along with that? How about a Lucy, Fred, and Ethel?

Ranked 19 in pre-season poll.

They are worse going out than coming in.