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You dont know which women are sex trafficked and which aren't. Simple fact. Many women at massage parlors aren't sex trafficked. I have volunteered and donated to Elijah Rising in Houston which deals with this issue. I know what am I talking about

Good thing you have an open mind and assume that all massage parlor workers are "slaves". Well I got news for you pal, they are NOT all slaves, not all forced into the life. Certainly some are and that is tragic but to assume they all are is ignorant. Yes I have meet a few that used to do the massage parlor thing, got enough money and are now more "mainstream". The assertion made by you that Kraft was human trafficking is wildly presumptive if not racist, you have little basis for that except you note (constantly hmm) that they are Chinese and serviced kraft. Go to the Philippines or to Thailand , maybe you would realize that not all cultures are the same and not all prostitutes or massage parlor workers are forced into the life. Am I "forced" to work, I guess I am since I want to eat. Does that make me a slave, no.

There is very little comparison to what Kraft did versus Watson. Kraft did it with a willing participant, Watson by all accounts by and large did his activity with unwilling parties. Unwilling sexual partners is the line you dont cross.............rape.

Bills in position #1 and #3 currently, pretty amazing. OJ Howard gets his first taste of the Bills mafia before he takes a snap.

i wrote 10-20 and I agree if he gets out 5 in years he might still have a shot at the NFL, I think post Ray Rice backlash the NFL has changed in that regard. Good test case will be Deshaun Watson, I wouldnt be shocked if he never plays on the NFL again.

Pittsburgh can afford it since they finally got rid of Ole Ben. Paying Mitch Trudbisky, Mason Rudolph and a rookie QB...you can afford a lot. I was really hoping they would let the washed up version play again this year with a big $ contract.

You will get lambasted for this comment but, looking at it from a NON EMOTIONAL standpoint, I would agree. People want to virtue signal here to deorate their outrage, blah blah bah. Anyone ho has ever driven drunk doesnt have much moral highground in this thread. If I were the Judge, I would put him away for probably 10-20 years. Courts currently often dont sentence pre-meditated murderers to much more but it was an accident, A horrific accident. Life in Jail for him is absurd and wildly over the top. His life is ruined, career over, ruined financially, never drive again, all things he "earned" himself.

Deshaun Watson was in fact a true superstar. evidence number 1 as a Bills fan was the Texans playoff comeback, it was almost all D Watson, he took the team on his back and had a few borderline miraculous plays like the one where two bills were on him and could bring him down for a sack and turned it into a big gainer. Looks at his numbers two years ago, the man was a real superstar.

That would be my initial gut reaction BUT if you can trust/coach up Watson to stick to his talking points, (never disrespected any woman blah blah blah) which he mostly did, I think it was a good strategy. Lately it has been a PR disaster for Watson. The non-stop Deshaun Watson bashing has been relentless, they had to try and change the narrative or direction a bit to and now they can say Watson isnt afraid to take questions.

It is delusional. Tindall will be lucky to even see the field this year. Reminds me a lot of a small version of Tremaine Edmunds....very quick but prone to be out o place and misdiagnose plays. Just wait to see Belichek scheme up against Tindall.

That is a real reach reading into a typical coachspeak response to the question.

Well the NYT article implicating the Texans, imo, was clickbait borderline trash. Yes the Texans paid for a suite at the Houstonian, yes the Texans knew he was looking for massage therapists and what Pro football players doesnt get a massage. (yes I know they had a facility with their own but he wanted someone else. The Texans shouldn't be responsible for him abusing what they gave him). But the implications from the NYT "enabling" Watson were laughable. I guess the Texans enabled him because they also paid him big $, it is a joke and Buzbees, the plaintiffs lawyers, is seeing that article as a cudgel in the PR world to extract $ form the Texans. My response to that is 1) Texans ownership, Cal McNair is brain dead 2) I dont care if they nail the Texans at all but taking away picks is wrong in a fair and competitive league 3) Texans will probably pay some $ to make it go away but not the draft picks So where do the lawsuits end? Watch them name the Houstonian as a defendant. Big money, dont want the publicity, would they pay to get rid of it, sure a reasonable amount. You have already explained your position and articulated it well. Give it up, 'Weo " just likes to argue.

At this point, at a minimum, I would think Watson has to get them to at least a Super Bowl before Browns fans forget what happened. And I might add, out of football for two years and from OTA reports of Watson not looking so great, odds are excellent he sucks if and when he ever does play again.

Intelligent, sounds like he is well centered. One guy that wont blow all his $.

Belichek is old and the Pats front office certainly looks dysfunctional to me. Belichek trying to protect his sons as coaches, one of which was responsible for the defense joke of a game the Pats had in the Playoff game, kid should have been fired immediately. No real replacement for McDaniels? And now they roll of MAtt Patricia again, possibly as a play caller? It is the Pats that will sink into oblivion and irrelevance once the old gasbag Belichek finally retires. I dont think Kraft has the balls to fire him. I would love to see Belichek try to install his kids as HC, that would be glorious.

Why should we as Bills fans even care about what the Pats fans think. He is doing exactly what he accuses Bills fans of, "punching up" to the Pats. He rambles on and on and on about how the Bills have a short window Von Miller esp and how great the Pats were for so long, blah blah blah. Sorry, it was a waste of time listening to him. And his analogy of the Ravens versus Bills fans is woefully flawed. The Pats were in the AFCE and dominated the Bills, of course Raven fans aren't/weren't obsessed with the Pats.

Here is more to that story. Back in 1998, his final NFL season, team owner Pat Bowlen came to John with an offer. At the time, John was owed $21 million in deferred salary (à la Bobby Bonilla). Bowlen's offer was simple: #1: John could buy 10% of the team for $15 million. #2: John could have another 10% if he agreed to relinquish the $21 million deferred salary. In other words, for a combined $36 million (with only $15 million of cash coming out of his bank on day one), John Elway could have bought 20% of the Broncos. At that level, Bowlen was offering 20% of the Broncos at a $180 million overall team valuation. As if that offer wasn't generous enough, Pat gave John a 100% risk-free insurance policy. If after five years John wanted out, he could sell his stake back to Bowlen for his purchase price plus $5 million. So not only risk free, literally get paid $5 million if he changed his mind. And in case you are wondering if Elway could have afforded $15 million down in 1998, at that point he had earned $50 million in NFL salary, around $20 million from endorsements AND just one year earlier had sold his John Elway Autos franchise for $82.5 million. So $15 million for a risk-free opportunity to own 20% of an NFL team. What did John decide? He declined. And today that officially became an absolutely horrendous decision… As if that wasn't painful enough, there's more pain in this story for John Elway. Instead of buying 20% of the Broncos, John ended up taking that same down payment amount, $15 million, and invested it in what eventually proved to be a $150 million Ponzi scheme. Not only did John NOT make any return on the $15 million, he lost a bit more than half of his investment. So in essence, instead of taking $15 million and turning it into $900 million, John took $15 million and turned it into $7 million

Yes it was a good article. With these two new allegations, especially the detail of the last one, I think they have enough to warrant to sit another grand jury and leave him open for criminal charges. Knowing Harris county, I think they just want this to go away and would be highly reluctant to waste any more time and money on this.

Rusty Hardin is losing this battle badly. He would have been much better to just sfu Re the $5,000, Hardin brought that out trying to pain Watson as some good Samaritan, he said her spa needed the $ and Watson gave it to her THEN this more realistic and jury enticing tidbit came out about the $5,000.

A lot are, I dont know the percentage (obviously) but my guess is a lot were Instagram models (if that is the term) as I would bet he he picked who he thought was good looking. Some others were legit massage therapists, a lot of massage therapists networking and recommendations. Deshaun was active in the offseason, sounds like a sick obsession.

He drove about 40 miles to a suburb and i think he flew at at least one in and has had complaints now in several different states.

What do you mean the contracts "tolls"?

I was going to write the same thing but I assume the term "half" here was just an off the cuff wild ass guess.

No it doesnt have to be proven, these are all civil cases. But imagine if she did save some of his dna on her clothes',, go down in history with make Monica Lewinskys blue dress.

Actually I saw that quote , not to nitpick but since that is a misquote in the 24th lawsuit by Buzbee, Hardin didnt say they were "common" , he said some of your listeners may or may not have had happy endings after a massage. And no I am not defending Hardin at all,, it was a laughably bad comment from a wildly over priced/over publicized lawyer.