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Dead horse beating. You have no "proof" the field goal was good, zip zero, nada. Not going to keep going over the same thing repeatedly. There is "anecdotal proof" of the pats hacking technology, reference the headset "malfunctions' and Flutie comment about hearing the coaches communicating when he picked up a QBs helmet after the time to communicate expired...i didnt make those up or dream them. I never said they did for a fact so now I dont have some "onus" to prove otherwise.

Did they? The NFL is so freaking stupid that they would doctor highlight reels of a missed field goal so Bills fanatics could cite that as the NFL essentially admitting Bass made the field goal. There is one thing to be a fan, a homer,......another to be, imo, irrational.

The onus is on me to prove? Read what I wrote, "I do think the probably screwed", note the key words "think' and "probably". If you dont think a multibillion organization with a penchant for cheating in the past is capable of hacking technology, well that is your opinion i wont bother to respond to.

The catch rule absolutely introduced/involves technology..... multiple slow motion high fidelity cameras and replays emerged. Hack technology on the NFL, sure it already hasn't happened? I do think the probably pats screwed around for years with the QB-HC communication as well as the other teams telecom. No you THINK or want the call on the field to be the wrong call, you don't know for a fact...if you think you do there is no point in further debate. Ah hah, maybe the ref under the field goal; post bet the under! Start a thread on that see what kind of traction it gets.

It proves nothing except that someone else thought it was good off the same view everyone has seen...except for the officials perfectly positioned under the goal posts. Thank God we won our the non-stop conspiracy theories would be running rampant.

Actually i can deny it and if we lost be 3 points I wouldn't debate it ad nauseam as we are here with this otherwise meaningless points, i would have moved on, its a judgement call, sometimes they go against you, deal with it. Only "precedent" it could possibly set is if the official made a demonstrably wrong call which, imo, i stil havent seen.

You want the NFL or football go go "all technology", good for you, I dont. I have already cited the fiasco the NFL has made about what a catch is. And what happens if technology malfunctions and gets the call wrong? Yeah good luck trying to solve that. My money is the Pats will learn a creative way to trick the fool proof technology. give them time and study. Football is a game of judgement officiated and run by people, seeking perfections if not attainable IMO. Would i like perfection, sure if the cost/time/hassle are not excessive.

No this is exactly what I wrote, "Can you cite ONE NFL game that an over the top Field goal was so close that it might have decided the game? " You supplied one, the Belichek one, the other you posted was a game by 4 and a game by 14, one wasnt even the NFL but neither was material to the outcome of the game. Just like the Bills=-Jets game...meaningless.

No materiel regardless, Browns won by 4. And imo From what I saw, no way that was good. I am not going to comment on every single debatable FG you keep coming up with over the post.

Give you credit for finding that. Again the refs were exactly where they needed to be, they had the best angle, the kick was no good. Sorry but Belichek and the biased Pats dont have close to the best angle. Look up parrallax effect/view, the will exactly why the refs are where they are. You do have a valid point to consider.

I am afraid of a suggestion like that, brings along the idiocy of things like the change of rules in the XFL. The game is fine, is it perfect, no...there are judgement calls and people involved.

When you try and codify and legislate every single possibility in the NFL then you come up with monstrosities like what is a catch in the NFL. Has that made the game more enjoyable, more watchable, more fair? The goal post situation is fine, lets stop trying to create/manufacture potential problems. The refs were exactly where they needed to be to see the best angle of the kick. Time to get over it already..

Our Super Bowl wide right had zero to do with the goal; post. Can you cite ONE NFL game that an over the top Field goal was so close that it might have decided the game? I will wait.

So again if you kick the ball TOO STRONG and it goes over the uprights is is no good....defeats the original purpose of what a field goal was about. Lets just call it "target" kicking going forward.

Borderline idiotic debate over meaningless points in a Bills blowout but because of this TRAVESTY and INJUSTICE we Are going to over-engineer and make it fool proof...just like what a "catch" is now in the NFL. Lets get a list of ALL the contested games that a situation like this was at debate and material to the score. It will be a very very short list.

Brady has had three pick sizes in his past 3 NFL games, talking Matt Schaub type trend.

LOL. I agree,get a grip. you cant tell from the camera angles which is exactly WHY the refs are positioned where they are, the refs have the best view of anyone.....except for of course disgruntled Bill fans for meaningless points in a game the blew out their opponent.

What? Are FGs now having to go the the square? No, also because it would make the bars very heavy and likely unstable.

Which team was so play action heavy in that era. was it the Pats? Did they have off the bell curve positive results, yes. Take them and re-run the data.

I already read your comment from Football Outsiders, would love to read their data set. If that was true every team would be play action all the time, it isn't as if teams dont use analytics. It is like fans that say all we have to do is run, run run and we win 97% of the time when we run for over 180 yards. The purpose of the play action is to sell the run, you wont get defenders to go for your run play fake if you cant run.

I agree 100%.

Either a mobile QB or a good run game. The Pats used play action a lot with a relatively immobile Brady but the Pats could run and Brady could fake hand-offs and sell the run game

Play action really works when you have an adequate run game and yes the Jets tried to shut down our run game but we are going to have to run much better in the future to sell the play action.

Fantastic. Father very proud his son is on the Bills, and in the spirit of the Bills fans, tremendous. Now we sit and wait for the inevitable lectures of the horrors of table breaking and the term "mafia".

The Packers need a quality defense which they sure didnt disaply on Sunday.