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Hockey is an entire different culture. I didn't grow up in a hockey town, but the whole reason people looked forward to go see the semi-pro team here was the fights. Its inherently part of the sport, especially when the refs dont break up a fight until it hits the ground.

So if you're attacked and you fight back, you are guilty of assault???

Was he meaning Bruce Jenner? Cause who the hell is Bruce Kardashian?

Fournette got what he deserved for taunting the crowd. What I don't understand is how you argue that the fan should be arrested for assault, but Fournette shouldn't be for assaulting Shaq. I would argue that a bare handed punch can have far more consequences than a half-full beer (You can see it spalsh everywhere if you pause the video which proves it wasn't unopened and full).

I don't know if its what he was talking about, but a fan nailed him in the helmet with a beer can as he was walking in the tunnel. There's a couple videos of it floating around facebook.

It looks like he's saying "You guys, you trash"

Anyone else see Ramsey just standing there watching Allen run over Jack. He was too scared to try himself bahaha....

Not sure if the stat is out there but I'd be interested to see how many runs Shady has been hit or had someone "pressuring" him behind the line of scrimmage this year verses the past couple years. It certainly seems to me that this number would be higher this season.

No, that is 100% NOT my argument. Geez this is worse than my 8 year old arguing with me. My argument is that a person who is drunk CAN NOT GIVE LEGAL CONSENT. If they say they were raped, they can go to the police and in the eyes of the law, this is RAPE and if the accused is drunk too, IT DOESN'T"T MAKE IT NOT RAPE. Once again: "Myth: If the assailant, victim, or both are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, the victim is free to consent to sex and the assailant therefore cannot be charged with rape. Fact: When intoxicated, an individual cannot legally consent to sexual activity. Forcing sex on someone who is too drunk to give consent is still Criminal Sexual Conduct in the Third Degree. Rape is a serious offense, and people who commit crimes while under the influence of alcohol or drugs are not considered free from guilt." This is my last post on the topic, cause if you still don't get it... I'll stop there before I break CoC.

I was trying to make a point, because he had argued that if both people having sex are drunk then it can not be rape because the accused was also drunk. My point was, just like ignorance is not an excuse, neither is being drunk in the eyes of the law.

All over the place, or actually argued each of your points and you have no real rebuttal so you resort to ad hominem? Face buddy, you are wrong. Here's some evidence since you don't seem to understand: "Myth: If the assailant, victim, or both are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, the victim is free to consent to sex and the assailant therefore cannot be charged with rape. Fact: When intoxicated, an individual cannot legally consent to sexual activity. Forcing sex on someone who is too drunk to give consent is still Criminal Sexual Conduct in the Third Degree. Rape is a serious offense, and people who commit crimes while under the influence of alcohol or drugs are not considered free from guilt." and once again, since you stated that you were married and don't have to worry about this and don't seem to believe it can still apply to you, here you go: "Myth: If a husband has sex with his wife without her consent, it is not legally considered rape. Fact: Regardless of the marital or social relationship between the assailant and victim, if an individual does not consent to sexual activity, he or she is being sexually assaulted. In fact, 14% of women are victims of rape committed by their husband." The legal role of consent There is no single legal definition of consent. Each state sets its own definition, either in law or through court cases. In general, there are three main ways that states analyze consent in relation to sexual acts: Affirmative consent: Did the person express overt actions or words indicating agreement for sexual acts? Freely given consent: Was the consent offered of the person’s own free will, without being induced by fraud, coercion, violence, or threat of violence? Capacity to consent: Did the individual have the capacity, or legal ability, to consent? Capacity to consent A person’s capacity, or ability, to legally consent to sexual activity can be based on a number of factors, which often vary from state to state. In a criminal investigation, a state may use these factors to determine if a person who engaged in sexual activity had the capacity to consent. If not, the state may be able to charge the perpetrator with a crime. Examples of some factors that may contribute to someone’s capacity to consent include: Age: Is the person at or above the age of consent for that state? Does the age difference between the perpetrator and victim affect the age of consent in that state? Developmental disability: Does the person have a developmental disability or other form of mental incapacitation, such as a traumatic brain injury? Intoxication: Was the person intoxicated? Different states have different definitions of intoxication, and in some states it matters whether you voluntarily or involuntarily became intoxicated. Physical disability: Does the persona have a physical disability, incapacity, or other form of helplessness? Relationship of victim/perpetrator: Was the alleged perpetrator in a position of authority, such as such as a teacher or correctional office? Unconsciousness: Was the person sleeping, sedated, strangulated, or suffering from physical trauma? Vulnerable adults: Is the person considered a vulnerable adult, such as an elderly or ill person? Is this adult dependent on others for care? Remember: each state’s law is different. If you are unsure how a state law applies to specific circumstances, consult an attorney.

Does your argument work for a drunk driver as well? "Judge I was too drunk to make a rational decision if I should drive or not, sorry I killed that family." No, it doesn't. If someone is too impaired to give legal consent, it is rape. Doesn't matter how impaired the offending male or female is. Or how about the predator that gets the victim too impaired, just so he/she can do what they want with them. You think they can just be like, "I was drunk too your honor so it doesn't count." Oh... and by the way a married person can be raped, even by their spouse. So, yes, it really looks like you need some education.

Where do the most amount of sexual assaults/rape occur? College. You guys need to take some sexual harassment/assault training.

You can't be charged unless the victim presses charges, period. We didn't even address the previous rape accusation that he settled out of court in 2008.

His own bodyguards were cops and even the responding officer was a fan. Do you really think this was properly investigated and there was no cover-ups? "The accuser was treated at Oconee Regional Medical Center. An emergency-room doctor and two nurses examined her and noted in their report a "superficial laceration and bruising and slight bleeding in the genital area", but could not say if trauma or sexual assault was the cause. The remaining examination was "normal".[254] A rape kit was collected, but no ***** was recovered, and the amount of male DNA found was insufficient to create a profile. The doctor's report also quoted the alleged victim telling them that, "A boy kind of raped me."[254] In interviews with the police on the night of the incident, the woman alleged that Roethlisberger, after inviting her and her friends to the V.I.P. area of the nightclub, encouraged them to do numerous shots of alcohol before Anthony Barravecchio — an off-duty Coraopolis, Pennsylvania policeman, undercover DEA narcotics officer at Pittsburgh International Airport, and one of Roethlisberger's bodyguards[255][256] — stated he led her down a hallway to a stool and left. Witnesses, however, stated that Barravecchio "placed his hand" on the accuser's shoulder and applied "a little bit of pressure to guide her" into the restroom where she claims the assault took place, something Barravecchio's lawyer denies.[257][258] After Barravecchio's purported departure, Roethlisberger allegedly approached, exposed himself, and despite the woman's protests, followed her into what turned out to be a bathroom when she tried to leave through the first door she saw. The woman claims Roethlisberger then raped her. It is further alleged that friends of the woman attempted to intervene out of worry, but the second of Roethlisberger's bodyguards, Edward Joyner—an off-duty Pennsylvania State Trooper—avoided eye contact and said he did not know what they were talking about. The policemen claimed to "have no memory" of meeting the woman.[259] Milledgeville Police Sergeant Jerry Blash, who had posed for a photograph with Roethlisberger earlier in the evening, was the first officer to respond. At the scene, he made a comment about the accuser to Barravecchio: "We have a problem, this drunken [expletive], drunk off her ass, is accusing Ben of rape.” Blash later admitted denigrating the accuser and never formally questioning Roethlisberger; he did speak to the NFL player and his off-duty police bodyguards at the Capital City club, but according to Blash's own report, Roethlisberger was hardly engaged and spent most of the time on his phone.[255] On April 12, 2010, district attorney Fred Bright held a press conference to announce that Roethlisberger would not be charged. Bright said "looking at all the evidence here, I cannot prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt".[254] Furthermore, the accuser wrote to the D.A. through her lawyer expressing she no longer wanted to pursue criminal charges[260] because the level of media attention would make a criminal trial too "intrusive" of a personal experience. The letter stressed that she was not recanting her accusation."

The case never went to trial because the girl dropped the charges due to the media storm it would create. She never recanted her accusation. Like I just said, The case never went to trial because the girl dropped the charges due to the media storm it would create. She never recanted her accusation. Educate yourself on the FACTS

Ya, cuz banging "a drunken slut" that technically can not consent isn't rape. You sound like a class-act rapist yourself.

It happens... if you recall a certain QB only got his shot because Bledsoe almost died on the field.

Isn't that a wonderful feeling the day you get that DD214?? I still remember waking up after retiring and thinking, "hey, I don't have to shave today if I don't want to!" lol

Wasn't that kickoff a live ball??? Why was it blown dead laying in the endzone??

He stared the receiver down from the moment he said hike. The only way he could of telegraphed that more is if he actually yelled to the receiver pre-snap "I'm throwing to you on the out!"

News flash... this board is over-emotional and overreacts every week.

You know the answer to this question. You're trying to find affirmation from people you don't know to blow her off. You're already being "that guy."

If Peterman was QB for any other team, people here would be bagging on him and you wouldn't give two craps about Cowherd doing this segment. Sorry, but Peterman sucks and we now have 2 of the worst performances by a starting QB in NFL history and its not EJ Manuel.