Herc11
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6 minutes ago, Nelius said:
Should have locked in those Allen MVP bets yesterday
I got in at +400 a couple weeks ago
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I don't wanna hear ***** from Nick Wright about Mahomes mountain. No one is playing as good as JA17 right now
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1 minute ago, technobot said:
love you Damar but that was the most awkward looking return ever. but thank you sir
He looked as slow as a lineman
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Helps when you're team doesn't get called for holds like these.
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On 9/13/2024 at 10:38 PM, mollymalonesmafia said:
Yep sure do. Your point?
Jesus christ man. Its a message board. Quit trying to save the world. You can move on also. Comments like that bloe my mine.
No one's trying to save the world, just being decent human beings and trying to be good representatives of our fan base.
It's small things like donating $17 that can leave lasting impressions on people. Showing a little empathy. I'd rather leave this kind of impression than that of a cold-hearted ass.
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55 minutes ago, MR8 said:
Ummmmmm no... Dude chose to play after 6 concussions.... He wants to be a vegetable, that's his choice. I don't care about him or his "cause"...
It's about turning an unfortunate event into a little bit of positive.
And you really could of just moved on without the assinine comments, but you do you.
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If you're in the giving spirit, a BillsMafia group on Facebook has started donations for Tua's foundation.
Most are doing $17
www.tuafoundation.org
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Why in the hell is Tua leading with his head into a tackle with his history???
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Just now, Meatloaf63 said:
Seemed like they were afraid for Tua to throw an interception
He threw a pic with his first down field throw. Then they didn't let him throw down field for awhile and when they eventually did, he threw the second pic. They are absolutely limiting his down field throwing.
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4 minutes ago, boater said:
Ugh. The Amazon broadcast is unwatchable. They should fire their audio engineers.
Thought the same. I had to turn it down cause it was all crackly
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28 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
I'm not sure you are correct here. The police have to have a legal reason to open up a passengers door and physically remove them. I'm not sure that threshold is met here.
If Hill refuses to give his license and registration. The police have every legal right to remove Hill and arrest him. That didn't happen here. Hill complied and gave the officer his appropriate documentation. In fact, Hill told the officer (with his window rolled down) to give him a ticket cause he's fixen to be late. Then Hill rolled up his window. Then a pissing contest ensues. At no time, does the officer mention officer safety. There seems to be no issue with officer safety here. It's more about egis in play. Hill actually did roll down his window. Not all the way but he did roll it down. Could it be viewed as an effort to comply? I think so. Was it was rolled down enough for the officers to see in?
Listen to the officers statements as they open the car door, yank, subdue, and cuff Hill. "We ain't playing this game." "When we tell you to do something you do it." "It's not what you want it's what we tell you." Talk about abuse of authority and misconduct. They defense team is going to have a field day with this.
Later, Hill is cuffed and by legal standards arrested. One police officer tells him to sit on the curb. Hill is lagging and not moving fast enough for the police. Is he a threat? No way no how. What happens now. A second police officer grabs Hill around the neck and assist him in sitting down. While doing so he says something about Hills ear and window. I couldn't make it out. It shows the officer is still pissed about the window incident.
This incident was never about officer safety. It was about the police flexing their power. It was a lesson about listening to the police or else. The officers own words and actions clearly back up this theme. Yes Hill is a POS. Still doesn't justify the police actions.
In short, I don't believe the officers had the legal authority to yank Hill out of the car.
Hill made a comment about his ankle being injured as he was forcing him down and the cop said something about his ear being injured too (since he wasn't listening)
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43 minutes ago, Jtowntobuffalo said:
If the cop asks you to exit a vehicle you must do so. Period. Penn v Mimms.
Hill doesn’t have to roll down window. But he must exit if commanded to do so. If not he can be arrested and removed forcefully. Period.
cop may be fired for his tone, lack of patience, and attitude. But legally he was within his rights to do what he did. If Hill did in fact refuse to exit.
Hill complied with the request and rolled the window down about 3-4 inches. The cop wasn't happy and decided to forcefully remove him.
I'm no lawyer or cop, but Hill was complying. Sure he may of had an attitude, but that's not illegal. I'm sure a cop has to have reason to forcefully remove someone from a vehicle, such as not complying or providing the necessary documentation. They can't just go ripping people out of cars because you made them mad, which is clearly the case here.
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15 minutes ago, Jtowntobuffalo said:
1. Cop can ask hill to roll down window.
2. Hill can refuse.
3. Cop then can tell hill to exit. Cop does not need probable cause or reasonable suspicion that anything more than a traffic infraction was committed.
4. Hill can choose to refuse, but then Hill can be physically removed and arrested (in nys issued an appearance ticket) Appears Hill refusal to exit wasn’t charged but it could have been. Officers do not have to charge someone, they also can choose to unarrest someone (discretion).Cops use to be trained when dealing with a difficult person refusing to comply: ask, tell, make. Now it’s more ask, beg, plead, ask again, then speak to a supervisor, ask one more time. They let them go because it’s not worth it.
Is he required to ask Hill twice to exit? No. Obviously he could have been more patient. Does he have to be? No. Can a cop rip you out of a car for refusing a command to get out. Yes. They can even put you on the ground and cuff you. They didn’t punch him on the ground, they cuffed him. Cop may have had an ego, but was justified in his actions legally. 98 out of 100 cops may have been cooler, more patient and chose not to ask him out of the car, that doesn’t mean this officer wasn’t justified in his actions legally. Can he be disciplined? Absolutely if they believe his tone, attitude and language was unprofessional.
Hill is no victim here. Not Complying was his choice and was illegal.
The only thing Hill is required to do is provide DL, proof of insurance, and registration. You can see him hand it to the cop when his window was down.
You are not legally obligated to keep your window down even if the big bad cop wants it down. You don't have to answer any questions or even talk to the cop.
The cop will likely be fired or suspended for excessive use of force.
8 minutes ago, shrader said:So according to a story I read (espn I think), Hill was calling the team’s security guy named Drew. He started that call before the craziness happened. I’m sure every team has that protocol, call so and so if you’re in trouble. I want to know that guy’s deal. That’s the annoying part to me, that all these teams have that shady guy out there who makes speeding tickets go away.
What would have happened if you weren’t Tyreek Hill? You would have actually gotten your ticket… well, that and you wouldn’t have been in the super fancy fast car in the first place.
If you have money, you get away with *****. That's how this world has always worked and will always work.
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2 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:
He rolled up a darkly tinted window. The officer was understandably concerned about that. No way to see if he was grabbing a weapon. Extremely stupid move by Hill. He deserved to be dragged out of the car and arrested.
If you believe it's ok to drag someone out of the car for rolling his window up after he provided his driver's license, you're a problem just like these cops. This is 100% excessive force.
There is no law that states you must keep your window down during a traffic stop. You just have to provide DL, registration, and proof of insurance.
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2 hours ago, K D said:
The cop will likely get disciplined, he was a bit excessive sure, but Hill was not innocent either. Keeping your window down and hands in sight is for the cop's safety. They don't know what you are doing in there. Possibly getting a weapon or getting ready to drive away. It would be a good opportunity to use this to show how both sides should have acted so people learn rather than both sides pointing fingers and causing more of a rift
I'm no Tyreek fan, but it is not illegal to not keep your window down. He had it down, the cop was going to walk away, he rolled it back up. The cop then wanted it back down and was pissed that Tyreek only cracked it.
The cop 100% power tripped and over reacted, including when he came over and grabbed him around the neck and threw him down.
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Ever year I hang a new Bills flag outside. This year I forgot to put the new one up. I remembered at half time and got it flying...
Better late than never
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Just now, DapperCam said:
Lol, Miller trying to get a half of a sack there. I hope they don't give it to him.
Why? He clearly pushed his guy into Murray which made him trip.
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7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:
You are correct sir. I feel shame.
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13 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:
I'll say this for him. Dude got some *****in' lats....
Those are traps. Lats are the back muscles that create the "v" shape.
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1 hour ago, philholbroo said:
Malik Willis time!
Look for a signing of Tannehil or Flacco (not sure if he's still under contract with the Browns)
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9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
You're not getting it. The money doesn't matter if the percentage of the cap is the same. If you extend a guy this year, next year someone else will make more. If you sign him next year, he costs more, but you also have more money to spend. The year after that, someone else will make more as well, making his deal look cheaper.
Signing a player you aren't sure about to a big money deal just because "it's cheaper now than later" is the completely wrong way to look at it. It's like people who bought houses in cash when interest rates were at 3%. Tomorrow's dollars are always cheaper than today's due to inflation and in the case of the NFL, the ever increasing salary cap. It's better to commit to only your best players, of which he has a long way to go, than to saddle yourself with Knox-esque contracts.On the contrary, signing that player now locks him in at a percentage of the current cap. Going forward with cap increases is where you save even more.
Also, if he continues getting better the increase in contract demand will far outweigh the increase in cap percentage.
Lastly, yes the cap will probably go up. However, we have zero clue how much.
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4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Oh for sure it is. If the plan was to extend him no matter what, doing it now is better than doing it next year. I agree with that. But I would have let him walk in free agency, saved the cap dollars for something more important, and accepted the likely 3rd round comp pick.
This has nothing to do with my feelings about Spencer Brown by the way. I was defending him last offseason when a lot of the fanbase was saying he's a terrible RT and that we needed to draft Darnell Wright if he was available at our 1st round pick. I like the player. I don't like spending a lot of money on the position when we're going to be tight against the cap in future years and we have a good stable of possible replacements waiting in the wings.
Howmany RT did we go through before getting Brown? The right side of our line struggled for years. Why chance going back to that after you've found a solid guy with a high ceiling that's still growing?
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1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:
That's true of just about every player. It's not a reason to extend people to big money.
If you feel they are on an upward trajectory, it's absolutely the thing to do. Signing an ascending player a year early can literally save tens of millions. Josh is a great example. Had they signed him a year later, his contract wouldn't of been way higher.
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18 minutes ago, Einstein said:
He is not an overrated player.
He is an overrated passer.
As a general player/runner, he is electric.He is an overrated QB.
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Josh Allen vs Patrick Mahomes: The changing of the guard?
in The Stadium Wall
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Allen is just as good in the post-season. His coach and teammates (due to injuries/etc) however have been another story.