McBean

Incredible you are writing them off preseason week 2. Tell me Corner, WHO did YOU want? What did YOU want to have happen?

He was absolutely horrendous outside of Jerry Hughes trade. A blind squirrel can find an acorn every now and then. Look at the man's drafts.

Spot on.

Seriously? F*** Brandon Beane? The guy has been here 3 months!!! Geez give these people a chance. For crying out loud, we gave BOZO Whaley and Nix 5+years!

I've found on my short time here there's 2 crowds. 1. Go all in to win this year. Doesn't matter if we make the playoffs and get curbed stomped round 1. Just win baby! Short term vision and ZERO long term vision. 2. Our camp. Build through the draft. Secure top 3 pick and take our chances on one of the big 3 coming out. Change the roster and culture here once and for all. Long term vision. It's no secret how we got here. Terrible drafts's combined with high up people ignoring the QB position.

I commented on this in the Boldin thread... I think we release him early to try and catch on with a contender.

No biggie man. I just feel like they really are going to try and move some more pieces. I think Kyle "meatball" Williams is next. Don't think necessarily trade, but I could see them releasing him so he can be picked up by a contender. I think for once we have a plan in place at OBD. Like previous posters have stated, we HAVE to hit on the draft picks. It's no secret though...McBean has their eyes set on a guy coming out in 2018...

Geez man sorry if I pissed you off that bad. Hate is a strong word!

I have a feeling McBean is about to make another huge move this week.

Some had Watkins at 1. Others had Evans. Still missing the point. EJ Manuel was our QB.EJ...Manuel.

Trading up to take Sammy Watkins when EJ Manuel was your QB was a horrid idea. Not only did he pass on Mack, but the WR he took wasn't even the best in the class. I'm sorry, but Doug Whaley was nothing short of an awful GM who set this team back several years. For crying out loud, look at the man's draft picks! Exactly Bang.

Doug Whaley.

Exactly.

5-11.

Well said.

Zay Jones will have a great rookie season. Also, Hughes will be a beast. I think Preston will be greatly improved in McDermott's defense.

More of a pros cons thread hammer. I'm just saying if TT is the same guy he's been the past 2 years, 7-9 season is very very bad for this team. I'm a long term thinker, not short term. We luck up and get into the playoffs, we get curb stomped first round.

Honestly, why not roll out Peterman every game this season and see what he has? Hear me out...I'm NOT saying he's a franchise guy. However, what's the upside to starting Taylor? Jeremy White brought something similar like this up this AM and it really hit me. We know what we have with Tyrod. IMO, he's a RB playing QB. Tyrod might lead us to 7 wins this season. So that brings up this...what does 6-10 or 7-9 get us? Not only will we miss out on a top QB prospect, but the playoffs as well. With Peterman, there is ZERO risk. 2 points. 1. Peterman shines and looks great as a rookie. Result: use picks to build around him especially OL. 2. Peterman looks awful. Result: Top 3 pick. So the above scenarios are zero risk to the downside and 100% to the upside. With Taylor however, we are taking a huge risk. We all know it, TT isn't leading this team to a conference or division title. Why not depart NOW and make this season fun seeing what a young QB like Peterman can do? If it works, great. If not, hello Allen, Darnold, or Rosen. Let's have a friendly debate and hear everybody's thoughts.

Preseason game 2. Say it with me...Preseason...Game...2..

Don't think it will happen. It's preseason.

I took the preseason pledge. He does look promising so far.

Crossman survived 3 new regimes. Incredible.

Wow Peterman looked great that drive. A couple of big time throws. I took the preseason pledge though..

We lose to the Jets and we win the Josh Allen sweepstakes.

Again, we should all be applauding McBean even more after tonight. We need a QB...very bad. We have the ammo to do it...