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I would say several things about the Panthers game : Taylor played poorly Dennison bears a much larger responsibility for that offensive fiasco than for games later in the season The Bills running backs gained 14 yards total ....... the entire freaking game The Panthers didn't even bother to stack the box per NextGenStats Taylor accounted for 80% of the running game, 90% of the total offense, 100% of the first downs That game would have impossible in '16 (Dennison again) Taylor ran a stereotypical Fourth Quarter Winning Drive - including overcoming a bogus offensive PI call - but : Poor Zay Jones had no ball awareness. He could have ran the play thru and the pass would have dropped over his left shoulder. But by the time he located the pass, it was already overhead. That necessitated his clumsy stutter-step, leap straight up, and awkard play on the ball. Did I mention Dennison?

The dead-enders defending the Peterman decision have settled on one critical tactic : They seem to recognize the absurdity of benching Taylor for the Saints game alone, so the record of TNF versus the Jets must be rewritten at all cost. But there are these irksome problems to be expected when you try to substitute fiction for fact. First, the 4th quarter garbage time crap is as phony as a three dollar bill. In the first-half of the Jets game Taylor was 11-14, 79% completion, 115 yrds, 8.21 ypa, and a TD pass. And - needless to say - no interceptions. Taylor didn't just play well in the Fourth, he played well the entire game. You might try any of accounts from Bills' sportswriter or commentators at the time for a second confirmation. Everyone said Taylor played well; you'll find no one to support your fiction.... The eternal question : Dishonest or Delusional? Taylor, First-half of the Jets game : 11-14, 79% completion, 115 yrds, 8.21 ypa, and a TD pass. Also : No interceptions.

"spark the offense after a couple of bumpy games" Sigh. Let's go over this one more time : Taylor played well against the Bucs. He played well against the Raiders. He played well against the Jets - being one of the few Bills who seemed to fully show up for that game. Then he played poorly against the Saints and was benched. Now maybe Taylor was sat down because the Bills running backs gained 28 yards in the Jets game and 47 yards in the Saints game. Maybe he was benched because the o-line had trouble blocking anybody - particularly against the Jets. Maybe he was benched because the wide receivers weren't getting any separation - particularly against the Saints. Maybe he was benched because the defense gave-up 194 yards rushing against the Jets and 298 gawdforsaken yards rushing against the Saints. Maybe he was benched because the team - Taylor excepted - didn't show-up to play New York on Thursday, and the defense wasn't showing up to play anybody anymore. Since the decision to start Peterman made zero sense then or now, it's impossible to tell why Taylor was benched. Part of it was probably a defense-minded coach whose defense wasn't showing up on the field. So - hey - let's start a fifth-round rookie. Part of it was probably Dennison and McDermott deciding poor Peterman didn't have to be ready - just system-y. Who knows? http://www.cover1.net/tyrod-taylor-didnt-deserve-to-be-benched-after-performance-against-saints/

Nope. This is the bottom line : Nathan Peterman, 24-49 49.0% completion 252 yds 5.14 yds per attempt 21 yds, longest completion 2 touchdowns 5 interceptions 38.4 passer rating 11.1 qbr 63 yds per game

There's a whole lot of stupid in this post. Let's just hit some highlights : "Airmailed the game winning TD pass to Zay Jones" Jones ran an awful route and made an embarrassingly clumsy play on the ball. But worst by far, he had zero idea where the pass was until it was right on top of him, and couldn't make the slightest adjustment to the ball. That's not the way wide-outs run 40yd routes in the NFL - or college, or high school (for that matter). "Once he was comfortably down 34-7 against the Jets, he was able to pad the stats in "Tyrod Time". In the first-half of the Jets game Taylor was 11-14, 79% completion, 115 yrds, 8.21 ypa, and a TD pass. And (of course) no interceptions. This despite the fact he was being hammered by a pass rush pouring thru the o-line like water thru a grate. "And if the kid went in there and lit it up, McD would have looked like a genius and you would all be sleeping in Peterman jerseys right now." And if I win the lottery tonight, won't I be happy? "I would bet that there were quite a few players in the locker room who were absolutely consulted and supportive of that decision" Observations : (1) Contrary evidence seems to bother you, which is not good. (2) I hope you're not a gambler, as you shouldn't bet on the basis of wishful thinking and pure fantasy.

Wow. The most imbecilic coaching decision this year in the NFL morphs into some zen jujitsu move. Whoda thunk it? Reminder : Taylor played well against the Bucs Taylor played well against the Raiders Taylor was one of the few Bills who showed-up to play against the Jets (and played well) Taylor played poorly against the Saints and was then benched. Meanwhile : The entire offense was dysfunctional against the Saints. The running backs gained nothing on the ground. The receivers were blanketed. The OC didn't make adjustments. There's a link to a Cover1 study of the game near the beginning of this thread. This is a coaching issue. The entire team didn't show up Thursday against the Jets (Taylor being a notable exception). This is definitely a coaching issue. The whole defense didn't show up game after game, allowing an average of +400 yds over a long stretch. This a massive coaching issue Conclusion? Do something idiotic; have the team rally against you for being a idiot; have the entire country laughing at you for being a fool; problem solved !!! Wasn't there an easier way for McDermott to deal with his accumulating mistakes than that?

Yep, It's the "A Butterfly Flaps it's Wings in Brazil and so the Bills Get in the Playoffs" doctrine. Chaos Theory - per Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park. Dang if it don't sound ultra scientific. Put that way, it make's McDermott's moronic decision seem - well - as moronic as ever. I'm afraid lipstick will do nothing for that pig; it just keeps on oinking.....

Meanwhile, back on Planet Earth : Taylor played well against the Bucs. He played well against the Raiders. He was one of the only Bills who even showed up on Thursday against the Jets and played well - despite regularly having a pass rush in his face the very second he set to throw. Then he played poorly against the Saints and was benched. Makes a lot of sense, right? Particularly given the defense was allowing an average of 400 yds a game over that same stretch. What's a defense-minded coach to do when his D doesn't even show up? Start a fifth-round rookie at quarterback, that's what !!! Obviously, not a very well thought-out move. It was the coaching equivalent of throwing crap against the wall to see if it would stick - just like the monkeys do at the zoo. That Peterman clearly wasn't ready just makes the decision even more moronic. If I had to guess, I'd bet Dennison & McDermott thought NP didn't have to be ready, the system would triumph over all. Also : In the Saints game the Bills running backs combined for 47 yards total, all four quarters. Against the Panthers, they combined for 14 yards the entire game. In the second game against the Jets, McCoy had 25 yards. Against the Broncos he had 21 yards at 1.5 yards per carry. Maybe he deserved to sit in favor of a clearly inferior player just because it's the coachy and "decisive" thing to do? Nah; no one would buy a decision that braindead.......

Here's another take : Suppose you do find this to be the Statistic of Statistics, and ignore how the rating doesn't seem to translate into quality of quarterbacking. Even then, what are you left with? Taylor is 1-1/2 passes more "cautious" than Brees every 100 pass attempts? That would be about six attempts over the season, and maybe a completion every fourth game. Is this really the terrible price the Bills pay for having the least turnover-prone quarterback in the NFL?

And yet Taylor completed over 70% of his passes against Miami, for 7.6 yards per attempt. If only he could play to the lofty standards of Romo chatter, I have to believe he'd never again have another incompletion !!! And then the Lion shall lay down with the Lamb.......

I would just like to point out you're delusional, or perhaps just trolling........ Tyrod Taylor : 19-27, 70.3%, 204 yards, 7.6 ypa, 1 Td, 0 Int, 74.1 QBR, 104.6 Passer Rating 6 runs, 35 yards, 5.8 ypr David Fales : 29-42, 69%, 265 yards, 6.3 ypa, 1Td, 1 Int, 17.0 QBA, 83.9 Passer Rating 4 runs, 8 yards, 2 ypr.

This being the same poster who said he didn't want to get into the playoffs if it meant playing Taylor the last few games of the season. Now apparently he doesn't want to win a playoff game if it means starting Taylor. Kinda weird, huh? I'm still convinced Tyrod musta kicked his dog, keyed his car, or stole his gal. It's the only explanation that makes sense.....

It's a good question : What about Red Zone production? Last year the Bills were exceptional, ranking 7th in the NFL. This year they're below average, ranking 21st. And this isn't one of those statistics where a small difference moves you way up and down the list - there's about a dozen percent points on TD scoring between years. Now, I recognize I won't change people's mind, but it seems pretty bizarre to ascribe the change to Taylor. He could score in the Red Zone and suddenly he couldn't? Or maybe this : All last year defensive coordinators couldn't figure out how to prevent TT from scoring a TD inside the twenty then - shazam !! - the light went on and the "figured him out"? Neither one of those theories seems very credible. The change at OC seems a bit more likely the cause...... https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct?date=2017-02-06 https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct?date=2018-01-06

Well, we look at the Miami game and there are these numbers : Taylor, First Half : 13-20 Taylor, Second Half : 6-7 Anything jump out at you there? And this game was hardly unique. Whenever Buffalo has enjoyed any kind of lead in the Second Half, the play calling gets extremely conservative. It's frustrating to watch but - to give McDermott his due - it's pretty much worked every time - tho often by a hair's breadth. As for TT in general, his splits are slightly better Second Half to First in completion percentage, yards per attempt, and passer rating - the one exception being TD passes where the First Half has a sizable edge....

Desperation is using a practice squad castoff like Thompson to "prove" the Bills have a NFL-grade set of receivers. Deonte has played well given his chance and more power to him, but that's just getting inside the door compared to other team's situations. If you look at the season-end NFL stats, Taylor is 16th by passer rating (not QBR). Just above him is Matt Ryan, who has much, much better targets to throw to. Just below Taylor is Dak Prescott, who has an o-line TT can only dream of plus better targets to throw to. Next comes Andy Dalton - who has AJ Green - and Derek Carr w/ Cooper, Crabtree, Cordarrelle, and Cook (to indulge in a bit of alliteration). Of course point out something that screaming-obvious and you'll inevitably hear "Taylor couldn't take advantage, etc, etc, etc" The problem with that response? Over 2015 & 2016, Taylor had a real pair of NFL receivers only the 15 games total with both Watkins & Woods playing. When that occurred he did this : 63.6% comp. 8.25 YPA. 27 TD passes. 6 INTs http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating

Maybe the source of confusion is the Third Down Conversion Rate, where the Bills ended the season sixth-best.

Try the video here : http://www.footballzebras.com/2017/12/31/quick-calls-week-17-2017/

I confess to be no expert on the rule here, but what people are saying is this : (1) The fumble came before Landry was out of bounds (2) But after the fumble Landry touches the ball while lying physically out of bounds (3) Per the rules, that makes it a dead ball

http://www.footballzebras.com/2017/12/31/quick-calls-week-17-2017/ You can watch the video here. According to this site - which looks at close ref calls - the issue was Landry touched the ball after the fumble while physically out of bounds. The same site called the KB call from the previous week wrong, but had no problem with this call.

Made me look. And what did I find? Taylor is 18th in the NFL by the league's passer rating, just ahead of Dak Prescott, Derek Carr, and (yes) Andy Dalton. He sits just behind Matt Ryan. Of course all those other quarterbacks have much more to work with. We can only imagine Taylor playing behind Dak's o-line, throwing to Derek or Matt's targets, or having a deep threat like Green again.

Ohhhh....so McDermott's genius plan was to save Taylor from the Charger's pass rush for the rest of the season ?!? Yeah - that does sounds imbecilic, but no less so than the given reason for starting Peterman. Remember : Taylor played well against the Bucs. He played well against the Raiders. He was just about the only Bill who played well against the Jets. Then he had a bad game and was benched. Meanwhile, the defense was allowing a league-worse 400yds of offense a game over the same stretch. So, quarterback change, right? It was a decision as stupid as stupid gets. That Peterman clearly wasn't ready magnified just how brainless a move it was. McDermott might as well have used a Ouija Board to decide who plays for all the common sense found in starting NP. His defense wasn't performing - to an embarrassing degree - so lets throw this **** against the wall and see if it sticks. That makes a lot of sense, right?

Positively weird. Your "3 game crap fest" started with a Thursday night game where Taylor played well - and looked like one of the only Bills who showed-up to play. It ended with Taylor following Peterman's first half debacle, and TT was pretty sharp given the reeking mess he inherited. Sorry, but I think your surly grump act has started to get in the way of clear thought....

An observation : ......."be freaking happy and stop calling people out"...... doesn't sound very happy, freaking or otherwise. Just say'n........

Definitely an opinion only. I lean towards extreme skepticism with people posting here claiming inside info. As I remember, the Bills have a winning record playing Taylor without McCoy. They don't have a winning record playing McCoy without Taylor. The Jags will be such a tall order they need'em both.....

1. The Bills will draft a quarterback with a first round pick - though whether they look to move up is a complete mystery. 2. The Bills won't be satisfied going into 2018 with just Peterman and their first-rounder; they'll want a veteran too 3. Taylor only costs the Bills 9mil of cap in 2018, and any veteran signing would offset much of that. 4. Nonetheless, Taylor is gone. McBeane has shown they don't want him & that overrides all other considerations. 5. Other teams know this, so they'll wait for TT to be cut.