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You're right in the sense that if the individual has talent it will be evident regardless of the presence of talent or lack thereof. But I do feel you're mistaken if you think that not having quality players around you won't accelerate your development as a QB. How's Sam Darnold doing now that he's on a squad with good skill players on both sides of the ball? He looks like a totally different player now that he's off that dumpster fire of a team in New Jersey. How do think Herbert would be doing on the Jets? I'm sure he'd show glimpses of promise, but success? Doubt it. Herbert is very good and at this stage and it's fair to say he's farther along than Allen was in his 2nd year. He also has the benefit the Bills had last year as an under the radar team that no one took seriously until they snuck up on everybody. I'm not stamping "Elite" status upon him until he makes the post season and wins a couple games. His arrow is definitely pointing up though. 👍 Glad he's not in the AFCE.

You can't compare QB's like Mahomes, Mayfield, Jackson, and yes Herbert to someone like Josh Allen. They all were drafted and stepped into already established quality rosters ready to contend from the jump. Imagine if Allen had Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelce, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Jarvis Landry, OBJ to throw to as a rookie. How about being able to hand it off to Nick Chubb, Hunt, Ekeler, Ingram, Edwards? Or having a Bosa, Garrett, Derwin James or any Ravens top defender? Allen had Kelvin Benjamin, Robert Foster and Zay Jones at WR. Frank Gore, Chris Ivory and an older McCoy at RB. Charles Clay and Jason Croom at TE.🤣 This is what sets Allen apart from the others. You felt and kinda knew he was going to be special even before there was any real talent on the team. Imagine how much farther along he would be if he stepped into a quality roster as a rookie like Herbert, Jackson and Mayfield? This is why I liken Allen to Tarzan. As the saying goes, No Man Started Off With Less. FTR: I think Herbert is an outstanding young QB and easily the best QB from his draft class.

Thats a great line Virgil! Great read as always. I've been following Oliver closely this year and it appears that with Star back in the mix and hell bent motivation the light switch just flicked on. Not trying to hijack but here's a great clip of the work he's put in so far.

Oh agree 100% on that. Just saying Star might've made the D even better that game.

Not too sure about that. The D line got pretty close several times getting to BIG Ben. Maybe Star's presence might have occupied another blocker allowing better pressure and possible sacks they missed out on. Maybe....

In other words, take the over. Right?

They are salty indeed😂

Wow! Pats had -1 yards rushing that game. NEGATIVE 1!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

Pats spent millions in FA and are tied with the Jets and Fins. Gotta love it! Division locked up by mid November.

Let's hope this crew is nowhere near KC next Sunday night.

What is going on with these refs?

That call had no effect on the play whatsoever.

Good call

This is not the Tampa D we saw in February

I can respect the skill but the true greats never had to jump from team to team to win championships. Jordan Kobe Bird Magic Curry Duncan Hakeem Russell

Yes the opponents outside of Pitt have been mediocre at best. But at least the team is laying waste to these teams as opposed to playing down to the competition like years past. If you don't belong on the same field as these Bills they will let you know it quickly.

A lot of reasons why. Opening day jitters Poor O line play against their D line Sitting Zach Moss Blocked punt Questionable game plan Sugar high Josh Pitt was at full strength but that shouldn't matter. If we played them now we'd return the favor 10 fold.

Exactly. Wake me up when they play in the AFC. Murray can be difficult to stop though. He buys a lot of time out of the pocket. You just don't know if he's gonna throw it or tuck and run. And he's quite elusive. But like I said, NFC team so I don't care.

She's the Suzyn Waldman of football. Yankees fans know what I'm talking about.

It's not taunting. No different than a WR and CB jawing at each across the LOS or a LB talking trash at the opposing QB.

Devin Singletary 14 carries 79 yards @5.6 per Zack Moss 14 carries 61 yards @4.4 per Nice game for both👍

Without Henry to keep defenses honest he's not even a game manager. When forced to carry a team the refs have to bail him out. You can do worse than Tannehill but he's nowhere near Elite and nowhere in Josh's atmosphere.

Don't want to hear about penalties against the Jets. Wilson makes a simple completion to Davis the previous possession and the game is over. Jets are gonna Jet.

Tannehill bailed out. He looks awful

Really!!!! That's the commercial you show during a Bills home game?