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21 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:
I don't give a crap about Allen's stats (pretty sure neither does he). We only care about scoreboard, and this kid is a winner.
21 hours ago, NewEra said:He needs to continue to collect W’s. That’s all.
You traded the QB who won enough to break the drought.
20 hours ago, BillsRdue said:If my QB can make 45 yd runs, it's just as good as a 45yd pass in my book.
Tim Tebow and Lamar Jackson approve of this message
3 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:You've been a super Allen pessimist this whole season from the posts I’ve read??♂️.
Allen would average at least 100 more yards per game with Kareem Hunt ripping off gain after gain and an OL that lets him pass to Kelce, Sammy, Hunt, and Hill right ?
Thats not unfathomable is it ?
These posts suggesting that just anyone would be lighting it up for KC continue to permeate this board. Alex Smith couldn’t sniff what Mahomes has done with the same roster.
Keep in in mind KC is averaging ONE more pass attempt per game and ONE less rush attempt per game compared to last year. Mahomes has been that much better running the offense.
And keep in mind we are on our 3rd center and 3rd RG, and all three of the C, LG and RG are castoffs from......Cleveland. Mahomes hasn’t had these great clean pockets to stand in....far from it.
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16 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:
Horrible take.
I wish he had the weapons KC does.
Awful. Abysmal post.
Is it really? Matt Barkley just walked through door and completed 60% of his throws to the same guys. It’s not some big leap when you compare the two. Tebow was big, he could run very well. He was charismatic. He won a playoff game in which he completed 2 passes. He had a career 47% completions pct. that doesn’t work in the NFL. He even threw 17 TD against 9 INT.
Im sure that isn’t a comparison anyone in Buffalo wants to consider, but the numbers are comparable. The athletes measuables are comparable. The development challenges as prospects are comparable.
Its only a horrible take if it strikes a nerve about what Allen may be but not because it isn’t reasonable to compare these two similar QBs at this stage in Allen’s career.
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He reminds me of Tebow at this point. Great athlete. Good runner. Charismatic. Not accurate.
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17 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said:
And all that needs to happen for me to win the lottery is to pick the correct 6 numbers.
....I've been going through life all wrong...at any given moment, I am two hot chicks away from an awesome threesome.
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Points allowed per game
LA RAMS 23.1
KC..........24.0
We are within a point per game allowed from the most expensive defense ever assembled in LA. Just something to think about as the schedules balance out over time. KC started off playing A LOT of high powered offenses while LA started with the opposite.
Yards per play allowed.
LA Rams 6.0
KC..........6.0.
Again...the Rams are the most expensive defense ever assembled.
Percentage of drives ending in a score
LA Rams 38.7%
KC.........40.2 %
.....one of these is the most expensive defense ever assembled...one of them isn't and has been missing it's too most experienced and highest paid players most of the year....
Sacks
LA Rams 26
KC.........31 (tied for 1st in the NFL)
....The Rams have spent and invested a TON of resources into their D....
Opposing team Completion PCT%
LA Rams 64.9%
KC.........63.2% (good for 10 best in the NFL)
.......investing heavily in a bunch of D players maybe isn't such a good investment?
....but continuing on
Interceptions
LA RAMS 7
KC..........11
....I don't need to explain the injries and turnover in our secondary compared to the highly paid pro bowlers the Rams have do I?
.....The myth of the Rams defesne was just the product of playing a bunch of nobodies to start the year.
Also...KC has played one of, if not the most brutal schedule in the NFL.
On the ROAD at .....the Chargers, the Steelers, the Patriots, the Broncos (who have held the Chargers, Rams and Chiefs ALL to their lowest point totals of the year)
At Home VS Jacksonville, when they were still the no.1 D. We of course play ON THE ROAD at the Rams, still have another game VS the Chargers coming up, and also AT Seattle...plus Baltimore at home.
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2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
I think Allen should start the next 5 games if injury free..
I agree that there is a possibility that he struggles through these games in much the same way that he did earlier in the season, but I’m going to hope he comes back second time around and things have slowed down for him a bit against some softer teams...
You must admit that the Schedule did him no favours earlier in the year..
On another point that may not interest you, I would let Barkley play the last game of the season with an eye to perhaps sign him as a backup QB for next year..
Anderson is pretty much a one year only mentor...Barkley at minimum should be allowed to compete for the 2. I'd still bring in someone with a bit more chops than Barkley to be that mentor/keep the team in games veteran presence....I don't know if Barkley is that guy. ...on the other hand, there really aren't any of those out there now who are going to be on the market......I kind of wonder if Bortles might be done in Jax and moving on to the "veteran backup" stage of his career next year....I suppose even if he is, he might not be ready yet to accept his fate and will want to compete for a job somewhere (like Miami or the Giants)
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Aussie Joe....I'll accept that as an answer....I am not asking to make a point...just wondering at what point folks think is reasonable to see some tangible results from Allen? Frankly, I don't expect any this year...next year is when you need to see something..and by about week 8 if the kid isn't getting it, I'd be worried.
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Question. If Matt Barkley can come in on 11 days prep, start, and go 15-25, for 232 and 2TD's ....can you keep using the excuse of "no line" no WR's, no supporting cast for Allen? At what point do you have to say, produce with what you have? Barkley just did.
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Obviously I am looking forward to what Mahoems does every week, but as an observer of the Bills, and seeing your awesome D week in and week out....I am very interested to see Allen the rest of this year. IF you have SOMETHING there, the Bills are going to be competive.....I have always said I don't think Allen can do it...but it should be fun to see IF he can...I'm rooting for him. Would be fun if the next GeN power in the AFC was KC-BUF-CLE.
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13 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Josh Allen would doing the same exact thing in KC and Mahomes would suck here.
This continues to pop up from time to time...and it's about as lazy a take as there is. Alex Smith, in his 13h NFL season, playing in this system with the SAME players, coaches, playbook ETC...couldn't put up these numbers. I keep hearing Mahomes has a lot of schemed open targets....he DOES...so did Smith. Mahomes does a couple things few other QB do...and if you watch a game or two of Mahomes playing..you can identify these EASILY. 1. He scans the field. I rarely stares down a target, and often will look one way and almost no look to a target the other way...safeties and LB's are frozen solid. 2. When he gets flushed out of the pocket, he keeps his eyes downfield, and the arm talent shines because he can deliever strikes at distance even as he is running, and can do so throwing accross his body. ....Mahomes clearly benefits from having a solid supporting cast....just like Alex Smith benefitted from all the same supporting cast...Buffalo would at worst be .500 with Mahomes.
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5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I both agree and disagree. I don't think Watson is elite. I don't actually think Mahomes is elite yet - his performances this season have been - but to get into that category you have to do it week in week out over a longer period. Mahomes is trending towards elite but isn't there yet.
Where I disagree is I do think Watson is playing like a top 10 QB and I think he is going to be a top 10 QB for a long time. I don't think he is ever likely to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers elite.... whereas Mahomes might be but I do think Watson can have a career playing pretty consistenly in that next tier down. The Matt Ryan / Philip Rivers type career and I think he has more natrural clutch gene about him than either of those two.
We aren't far off.....I'll put it this way....If the Chiefs had taken Watson, and we were getting the production out of him that he is giving Houston...most of us would be pretty happy about it....and we'd be thrilled to have drafted our own guy who would allow us to be competive for a decade or more. Houston has the hardest part of building a team taken care of now...the QB and they will probably be able to put a contendor or two together over the coming few years. Watson is better than a Tannehill or a Mariotta for sure....the Titans and Dolphins for example, even though they "have a QB"....they don't really "have a QB". I hope that makes sense. Houston certainly has a QB and they are, and should be happy with it.
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I really like the QBR stat as a measurement of QB play. Watson is 16th. That is good. If you are Houston, you are thrilled he is your guy and you know you have that piece in place for the next decade if he stays healthy. I can't speak for Bills fans, but I would assume many would be glad to have him....and I'd bet some would reject him as middle of the pack and happy to see what Allen becomes. .....my only point in posting in this thread was to counter the OP who seems to think Watson is elite. He isn't. He is good but in the mid range of QB, not top 10.
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26 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:
You play who is on the schedule babe.
yes, you do. He lost to the Giants at home.
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13 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:
Oh boy. I do declare the rumors of Watson's demise were greatly exaggerated.
Here's what our beautiful boy out of Clemson is doing through 8 games:
5-3 as a starter, 3 game-winning drives
2389 passing yards, 10th in the NFL
17 passing TD's (tied for 8th with Tom Brady)
7 INT's (tied with Brady and Mahomes)
Passer rating 100.8 (tied for 10th with Cam)
All while being the second most sacked QB in the NFL.
If Mahomes wasn't breaking records, Watson would be the talk of the second year QB town. Imagine passing on two franchise QB's in one draft. Couldn't be me.
Watson is a decent QB thus far....but you cherry picked some stats here. He is actually now SIX and 3 as the starter but ALL 6 of those wins have been against teams with a losing record except 5-4 Miami....at home. 3 Game winning drives? Anyone remember the "Drive" he had after the Colts failed on 4th Down in Overtime? Or the "drive" he had when the Cowboys decided not to go for it.....in overtime? Impressive stuff. Watson's last 4 yardage totals. 177,139,239.213. He hasn't thrown for over 300 yards in a NON OVERTIME game since a week 3 loss to the Giants. He does only have 7 INTS, but he also has substantially fewer attempts than Brady and Mahomes. Passer Rating continues to be the single most garbage stat out there....try QBR of 60.2 Watson..good for 16th in the NFL...or exactly AVERAGE. ....also worth mentioning Watson is 2nd in the NFL with 7 fumbles. ...and only 1 rushing TD....Brady and Mahomes each have 2.
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Only QB in NFL history to go over 3000 and 29 TD in his first 10 starts.
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Couple of notes.
with Kielce Hill Hunt and same system, Alex Smith produced his career best season in 2017 topping 4000 yards for the first time in his career and throwing 26 TD passes, a career high.
Smith was a horrible Red Zone thrower, completing only 44% of his passes. KC as a team was awful in the Red Zone.
Mahomes, with the same cast, has thrown for 26 TD passes, in just 8 games, leads the NFL in passing yards, QBR, etc etc.
i concede that Mahomes is helped by having the Ferrari offense to run, but I do not concede that others would look as good doing it. Smith is a decent QB His BEST effort was equaled by Mahomes, in his first year, in half the games.
someone mentioned Vision. Ding ding ding. Winner. The kid has incredible ability to make reads. He keeps his eyes downfield. Combine this with his “arm talent” where he truly can fire to all fields from any platform and get it to a spot with power....it’s incredible to watch.
Just FYI the online has a pro bowl right tackle, an adequate left tackle. And the interior is injured. Already on our 3rd center and 3rd right guard due to injuries. Left guard is ok. Interior pressure has been more frequent as a result but Mahomes overcomes it by rolling out and firing wherever anyhow.
There red is a compilation somewhere of defenders throwing their arms up in disgust game after game because you do everything right, flush him out, good coverage and he burns you anyway.
personally, I think Allen could still have a chance to be good. I would measure his progress against Trubisky, and quit comparing to mahomes.
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5 hours ago, DC Tom said:
You know...I'm going to give up on the Bills and become a Chiefs fan, just so I CAN HEAR LESS ABOUT FRICKIN' MAHOMES!!!
You wouldn’t escape it. Every kid in Kansas City is Pat Mahomes for Halloween. The fam base is all in.
Also, just think how much better Mahomes would be if he had won more games at Texas Tech.
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8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
Buffalo being a AFL original is untouchable at this point. If Pegula didn’t pony up, some other rich Buffalonian or transplant would have
everybody who is scared is losing sleep... i was worried when I was 10 and their were “TALKS”
The Wilson’s trust were only selling to somebody who committed to Buffalo
They would lose 99% of the Buffalo market... and it is the best NFL market in America ratings wise almost yearly
If they lost the entire Buffalo market and gained the entire Canadian market, the next TV deal will make the owners way more money still.
im Not knocking the Buffalo market. It’s similar to KC. All I am saying is that if the Bills (or anywhere else) aren’t locally viable, the NFL will be glad to go to Toronto etc. not to St. Louis, or San Antonio etc. NFL Gaines Zero by relocating domestically.
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The NFL doesn’t care about any new or decking domestic markets. The revenue is mostly from TV. Non NFL markets already watch a lot of NFL football.
The NFL can only expect to grow the revenue by adding international markets.
if the Bills or Chargers or Jags move, it won’t be to St Louis or San Antonio. The days of growing through domestic markets is done. London, Toronto, Mexico City. Possibly two London teams.
If the Bills leave it will be an international destination.
Keep in in mind that the owners would rather enter international markets with existing franchises as opposed to expansion because you share the added revenues with the same number of teams and not having to split those up with more new owners.
Losing 25% of the Buffalo TV market is a non factor when you can gain the entire Canadian market by relocating To Toronto
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On 10/26/2018 at 9:49 PM, Rc2catch said:
What are the odds Watson or Mahomes is successful here? Even with the players lost via trade and free agency.
Why is it a given they “missed” on these picks?
Watson is a year and a half into his career and what 6-7 games for Mahomes?
While im not sold on Allen as a franchise guy I just don’t see the fascination with other quarterbacks we could of drafted instead.
totally different systems and team situations.
This line of reasoning is not very sound. If you are inclined to think Watson and Mahomes couldn’t succeed with Buffalo then you have to ask who possibly could AND, then you’d have to be critical of the Bills for drafting the ultimate project QB.
This logic just turns into a hopeless circle.
our team is bad, we need a Qb. If we take a QB, he will still suck because our team is bad. Ok, our team is bad, we need a QB. We will ruin him because our team is bad.
If if you want to say Mahomes would be breaking records if he were a Bill, that is valid, but if you think Mahomes or Rodgers or Marino would just suck because they had this roster, is a lazy way to evaluate a QB.
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2 minutes ago, stuvian said:
the arm was going fwd and in a QB league nothing else matters
It does not matter.....that's fine they ruled it a "pass" but there is no such thing as an incomplete backward pass....the ball is live unless it goes out of bounds....it is NOT incomplete.
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Just now, stuvian said:
if the QBs arms going fwd its a fwd pass
The ball ended up being thrown BACKWARD....that is a lateral...there is no such thing as an incomplete backward pass...it has to be recovered by someone becasue it's a live ball
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WTF....if you are calling that a "Pass" then it was a lateral and a live ball! how do you screw that up?
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25 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:
Thanks. I hope Mahomes helps balance everything out ?
We Chiefs fans are still clinging to the hope that it will.
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Nice game but Allen needs to pass
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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It’s a counter point to the argument Josh Allen would be posting Mahomes numbers if he were in KC and that he’d be doing so because of the “great” line and the great supporting cast.
i would agree Allen would look better in KC but nothing close to Mahomes and probably not all that much different than he looks now.
At some point the elephant ? in the room (completion pct) has to improve markedly or the kid won’t last long term.