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If he were on the Bills now, having been aquired by a trade up, was injured and didn't play much, and now the 6 game suspension.....would you trade him away? I doubt it.

Before the combine the kid was a 4th to 5th rounder....for having all these great meausurables..they don't translate to production. He isn't undersized at end, but could be at DT. Also, he gets some buzz in KC because he's a KC native. So is Felix Anudike-Uzomah, EDGE from Kansas State who gets alot of the same run at end of round 1 all the way throughout round 2. ...but he was more productive on the field. Personally, I love Kancey.

I like your write up and thought process....and I like the player. I just don't like it at 31.

It seems like the conversation is deviating from the OP original question...this isn't a swap out Mahomes for Allen quesiton...at least that isn't what was asked...it's would you still have Allen if the trade didn't happen....and the answer is YES. you would. The draft picks involved in trading up to 7 with Tampa didn't involve the 1st round selection KC traded to the Bills. Also, the Bills were NOT taking a QB in 2017...that's been well documented.

Pretty much to the point....and it's nothing new...but some people don't want to confront the realities of this...and these same points are also why I said 100's of pages ago that KC was also not in on D hop. (there are a TON of Chiefs fans and podcasters who can't come to terms with this stuff either) https://twitter.com/sumersports/status/1648397810352398355?s=20

This is just dumb on Florios part. The Bills are up against it as far as the cap goes because they’ve spent on Diggs, Miller, Milano, etc. Buffalo has been spending!

derp on my part.

Enjoying this one from afar....looking forward to seeing what @HappyDays does in this one with my Chiefs.

....your slant of D to O ratio is off '18 4 of 4 round 1-4 picks spent on D (and this was a BAD draft for KC. 3 of the 4 were busts, and one was barely a JAG, Derrick Nhadi) They of course didn't have the 1, traded away to the Bills. '19 2 of 3 first 4 round picks spent on D '20 2 of 4 first 4 round picks spent on D '21 2 of 3 first 4 round picks spent on D '22 5 of 6 first 4 round picks spend ont D That's 15 out of 20. You could say 15 of 21 if you take away the Mahomes trade 1st rounder in 2018. Certainly not 12 to 9 though.

Everyone knew that the scouts and GM would be fired. Whaley didn't hire McDermott. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/26/bills-scouts-bracing-for-a-post-draft-house-cleaning/ https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/26/talk-in-buffalo-that-doug-whaley-could-be-on-the-way-out/ McDermott himself said he wasn't ready to draft a QB and wanted the new GM to be part of that process (he knew a new GM was coming) https://theathletic.com/1167351/2019/08/29/is-your-guy-ready-for-the-league-inside-the-bills-decisions-meetings-and-scouting-trips-that-led-to-josh-allen/ https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/chiefs-bills-nfl-draft-trade-patrick-mahomes/16opv91al12zs1j8dzwew6ol9e Whaley...after saying they had worked on a trade for weeks, and knew they were trading out of the pick ,then says....but it's alway a possibility....well, yeah, in the sense that if they were at 10 and Mahomes was on the board...it was in fact, possible...and so was Watson, and Deshone Kizer, etc. The Bills, were not in the QB market in 2017.

First...the simple answer is the Bills would still have Josh Allen almost certainly. I'll explain that below. Let's once again go back over how that all played out.... Early in 2017, the Pegulas did some wierd stuff when they hired Sean McDermott, a defensive minded HC...just a couple months before the draft. They retained Whaley to help with the draft and all parties knew that Whaley would be gone, and that a new GM would be hired AFTER the draft. This is important because while Whaley and Terry Pegual both liked Mahomes, McDermott wasn't a QB evaluator, and he didn't want to make a call on the next franchise QB until the new GM was in place and they could all evaluate and get on the same page when they made such a huge and important choice. Going into the 2017 Draft, the Bills were NOT taking a QB...even if they had stayed at 10, that pick wasn't Mahomes. It's been well established that the Saints were set to draft Mahomes at pick 11 if he was there....that would be different. I speculate that if the bills stayed at 10, maybe the pick would have been Marshon Lattimore, who the Saints ended up with at 11. IDK. Anyhow...The Bills still would have arrived at the 2018 draft, with Beane and needing a QB. They likely would have had a similar draft position and assets, minus the extra 1st they got from the Mahomes trade. HOWEVER....the Bills did not use draft capital involved in the Mahomes trade to manuever for Allen. That draft capital had more to do with manuevering for Edwards. The Bills loved Allen..and they were in position to get him regardless of the Mahomes trade or not. So... Not much difference..Allen would still be your QB......Lattimore instead of White? Biggest difference owuld be Mahomes as a Saint....with Sean Payton.

I'll take the Broncos! (who have no picks in round 1 or 2)

Tyler Scott is diet Tyreek. (I hope the Chiefs take him, and not the Bills) I agree that this class is WEAK at the top. No sure thing, no consensus at all on the top 5 or even 10....everyone is all over. If anything, alot of these guys are scheme specifice in some way and are better fits on some teams instead of others. 20-31 are rough places to be in this draft.

Of course I don't mean like that...McDuffie isn't as tall or long as what KC normally drafts...but KC doesn't box themselves into a type when someone really talented comes along that doesn't completely fit the mold.

With the 95th pick in the TSW mock draft, the 3 time and current Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs select.......... Cory Trice, CB, Purdue. KC doesn't have a need at DB, but keeping the roster stocked with quality DB is ALWAYS worthwhile. Trice fits the mold of KC's preference for tall, long, press type DB to play spags press man system. Trice is 6'3 over 200 and has skills.

I don't have a dog in this fight but participating in the mock draft here, when the Bills have come up, there is alot of debate about who they should or should NOT take. Post your guys that you hope the Bills avoid at all costs....who would piss you off if the Bills call their name and why.

Chiefs remain interested in trading up

Chiefs still wanting to move up from 95

I would love to trade up...if anyone wants to make a move to 95.

I've been doing a 7 round mock W/trades (but no players or future draft picks are allowed to be traded) on a Broncos site for the last 4 years. We've just finished up....just for fun/entertainment/information whatever.....I am posting what the Bills drafter did.... 1-27 (27): Buffalo Bills - Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma 2-28 (59): Buffalo Bills - Jack Campbell, LB, Iowa ****TRADE**** Bills move up to 86. Ravens get 91 and 137 3-23 (86): Buffalo Bills - Tyjae Spears, RB, Tulane 4-28 (130): Buffalo Bills - Puka Nacua, WR, BYU 6-28 (205): Buffalo Bills - Jalen Redmond, DL, Oklahoma

Wow! I'm 46 and have 5, plus one granddaughter. Congratulations! Wife and I had discussed a couple times having ONE MORE! but she's not 28...she's 42. and our youngest is 10. Fatherhood is awesome!

....not trying to upset the cart or rock the boat.....but just wondering why this doesn't just go all 7 rounds and allow for the trades etc that goes with it?

To clarify, I thought KC was OUT way before signing James for the same reasons. KC and the Bills were going to be interested in Hopkins and/or OBJ if the price was right. OBJ getting 15 million is going to make Hopkins more resolute about not redoing his deal or taking a pay cut. Even if he's released, if he wants 15 million too it could happen with void years and money kicked down the road and no draft picks traded. I would suspect KC would still be a longshot even at that. If he's released, I beleive the Bills would absolutely be in play......becasue you guys are already pushing the chips forward anyhow.

You can cross KC off the list (if you hadn't already) ...KC just signed another rotational WR and simply don't have the cap space to make this move and they aren't going to have it either. Prety much the last thing KC has remaining to do is signing Chris Jones to an extension, and whatever cap space that frees up, will probably be held back to sign the draft class along with a reserve to sign a player or two in season. The signing of Rick James (the WR) should signal to everyone who wasn't sure still, that KC isn't making any more major investments at WR in FA/Trade.

you've got me confused with someone else. I drafted Calijah Kancey after trading up.