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The Great Snowflake-in-Chief was supposed to attend a "hearing" in a Gettysburg, PA hotel today with Crazy Rudy to promote his "Poor, poor pitiful me!" voting fraud agenda, but the trip was canceled because another WH staffer tested positive. Not sure if the "hearing" is still on. And all those Congressional Republicans who sold out their personal integrity with their silence after the election in the vain hope that Trump would help in the GA runoff look to be getting exactly what they deserve.

The approximately 65% of the eligible voters who voted in 2020 was the highest percentage voter turn out since 1960 IIRC.

Since there has been not a single shred of any kind of large scale election fraud anywhere in the country, there's nothing to "fix". The only improvement to the electoral process itself that needs to be made is that some states need to improve the way they process mail-in voting, which would be to start the process of verifying signatures and "curing" ballots earlier than Election Day or the day after Election Day.

The 2020 election was nothing like previous disputed elections. 1796 - This election was not disputed. 1800 - This election was deadlocked because the emergence of political parties resulted in the Democratic candidates candidates for Presidents (Jefferson) and VP (Burr) wound up with the same number of electoral votes which sent the election to the House of Representatives. This election had nothing to do with fraud. It did result in the ratification of the Twelfth Amendment before the 1804 election. 1824 - None of the 4 candidates for POTUS -- John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, Henry Clay, and William Crawford -- got a majority of the popular vote or the Electoral College votes so the election went to the House of Representatives. This election had nothing to do with fraud. 1877 - This election did involve election fraud and voter suppression in which the election results in four states totaling 20 Electoral College were disputed, leaving the Democratic candidate, Tilden, one electoral vote short of a majority, and resulting in a quid pro quo deal that gave the 20 disputed electoral college votes to Rutherford in exchange for pulling federal troops out of Southern states and ending Reconstruction. 2000 - This election came down to fewer than 600 votes in a single state, with the dispute revolving around counting poorly marked ballots (the infamous "hanging chads"). NONE of these elections had a candidate who lost both the popular vote and the electoral vote by significant margins and then tried repeatedly to overturn the election results by 1) claiming massive election fraud without any shred of evidence or 2) attempting to pressure state officials to overturn the state election results. Mail-in ballots have been in use in the US since 1864 without issue. Three states -- Colorado, Oregon, and Washington -- have been using for all mail-in voting for years without issues. Despite your claims, only 9 states mailed out ballots to all registered votes: California, Colorado, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Nevada, New Jersey, Utah, Vermont, and Washington. The Trump campaign didn't cry "foul" in any of these states, although the Nevada GOP made jackasses of themselves by claiming that they found out-of-state residents voting by mail in Nevada who turned out to be spouses of US military personnel. If you want to see somebody historically and politically ignorant who runs his mouth, I suggest you look in a mirror.

How are spy planes -- which would be at high altitudes I presume -- superior to spy satellites with better cameras? I can go to Google Maps, select satellite view, and zoom into my house and not only see the arbor at my back gate but also the part of my garden pond that's not obscured by the tree next to it. Wouldn't spy satellites be even more technically advanced?

What has been "unprecedented" about this election was the attempt by Trump and his sycophants to subvert mail-in voting as well as their attempts to discredit the election results. The fact is that mail-in voting has been used successfully since the Civil War, 156 years ago. There was absolutely no evidence of any kind of organized fraud in any state or any kind of electronic tampering with ballot results. That was confirmed by Trump's own cyber security chief who was promptly fired for his honesty.

This is nonsense. There is absolutely nothing that indicates that Biden's "mental condition" is anything except nonsensical wishful thinking by RW partisans. Biden has always made verbal faux pas, probably the result of his childhood speech impediment, stuttering. The US currently faces significant economic problems that haven't been seen since the Great Depression. The economic situation is far worse than the Great Recession but since economic hardships have fallen hardest on marginal economic segments -- low-skill, low wage workers in the hospitality industry, gig workers, mom-and-pop small businesses, etc rather than on major corporations or the finanacial markets -- the situation doesn't seem as dire. If Congress does not get together and pass a stimulus package before the end of the year, the proverbial manure is going to hit the proverbial fan. Getting employment back to the level where it was in January, 2020 will be a major accomplishment in the next four years.

^^^ I agree with both of you. Right now, we need a POTUS who can restore faith in democratic governance by dealing with the daunting challenges currently facing the country by governing in a competent manner with moderate policies that most Americans can at least accept if not support.

November 23, 2020 : It's official: Covid-19 306, Trump 232. Be smart and get your flu shot. Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing. Be really smart and don't share your air. November 19, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 471,000 could die from coronavirus by March 1, 2021, about 30,000 more than its previous projection of more than 438,000 American deaths by March 1, 2021. November 23, 2020 - 257,707 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 909. November 22, 2020 - 256,798 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 893. November 21, 2020 - 255,905 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1460. November 20, 2020 - 254,445 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1935. November 19, 2020 - 252,510 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1962. November 18, 2020 - 250,548 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1841. Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 18-23, 2020: 1500 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 11-17, 2020: 1287 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 4-10, 2020: 1008 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 28-November 3, 2020: 852 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 21-27, 2020: 800 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 14-20, 2020: 726 November 1, 2020 - 22,748 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of October, an average of 734 per day. October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day. November 1, 2020 - 231,003 Americans have died of coronavirus October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus. September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus. July 1, 2020 - 127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.

I think that he'll try simply to pardon himself because I put nothing past him. The question of whether a president can pardon himself has never been ruled on. I think that Trump's rush to nominate conservative justices to the SCOTUS may come back to bite in him in the arse on this issue because those conservatives are "strict constructionists" who aren't likely to "write new law". Of course, it's largely moot since neither Trump nor the Baby Trumps are protected from civil or criminal charges brought in state courts. The whole clan can trot their corrupt arses off to Russia or whatever other authoritarian country that won't extradite them back to the US to face criminal charges or civil litigation.

Good enough for me. He did what he was nominated to do.

The Secret Service and FBI agents as well as all the other federal employees who took oaths to support and defend the US Constitution not to do Donald Trump's bidding.

I agree. There's real fear among GA Republicans that Trump's claims of election fraud -- especially in Georgia by Republicans -- will suppress Republican turnout in the run off election. It would be such karma for the GOP if it did because that race hinges on turn-out.

No, the most patently outrageous nutbar is gone because her membership on the "legal team" was making even die-hard Trumplets hold on to their wallets instead of donating to Covid Donnie's slush --- I mean "legal" --- fund.

Be smart and get your flu shot. Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing. Be really smart and don't share your air. November 19, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 471,000 could die from coronavirus by March 1, 2021, about 30,000 more than its previous projection of more than 438,000 American deaths by March 1, 2021. November 22, 2020 - 256,798 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 893. November 21, 2020 - 255,905 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1460. November 20, 2020 - 254,445 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1935. November 19, 2020 - 252,510 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1962. November 18, 2020 - 250,548 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1841. Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 18-21, 2020: 1618 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 11-17, 2020: 1287 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 4-10, 2020: 1008 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 28-November 3, 2020: 852 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 21-27, 2020: 800 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 14-20, 2020: 726 November 1, 2020 - 22,748 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of October, an average of 734 per day. October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day. November 1, 2020 - 231,003 Americans have died of coronavirus October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus. September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus. July 1, 2020 - 127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.

Trump has always been and always will be a con man.

I think that's EXACTLY why the GA Secretary of State made Lindsay Graham's phone "inquiry" about the recount public and why the two Michigan Republican leaders refused to be swayed by Trump: unlike Trump and his sycophants, they understand -- or their lawyers do -- that it's actions not words that constitute sedition, and they weren't having any part of it. By making public statements against Trump's "overtures", they essentially established their own innocence, while putting Trump's attempts to conspire to change the election results -- the action that would constitute sedition -- in the public record. It could make both Trump and Graham liable for sedition charges should the Biden administration choose to pursue it. (Sedition)

Maybe Rudy knew better thirty years ago but I'm not sure he knows anything these days that isn't filtered through his tin-foil hat in the voice of Covid Donnie.

More info on emoluments in the US Constitution: Emoluments Clauses

I disagree. Trump is a narcissist as well as a scoiopath. That combination of psychological mental disorders creates an extremely immoral individual. Give that individual power, ie, wealth and/or political power, and he becomes extremely dangerous. That's Trump, and since the election, he's demonstrated that there is nothing that he won't say or attempt to do to "win". He's going to continue his scorched earth policies against the United States and the future Biden administration until January 20, 2021, because nobody or nothing matters to him one iota. My guess is that he -- or more likely some sycophant not officially associated with his administration so that Trump can't legally be charged with any crime -- is going to call on Trump cultists to protest in the streets after Trump's legal charades and attempts to bribe/threaten state officials to change states' electoral college votes crash and burn. From his behavior since the election, I expect Trump to not attend the Inauguration but rather to go golfing while his lackeys quietly remove his personal possessions from the WH and Trump cultists fill the streets around the country.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, the chances of it being something other than a duck are slim to none.

^^^ In regard to these two posts, I think that Covid Donnie is both sly and stupid. I do think that he intentionally tried to suppress the vote by attacking mail-in voting early on because he thought that 1) the coronavirus would primarily impact cities, 2) the pandemic would spend itself well before the election and not be a factor, and 3) states wouldn't expand mail-in voting processes. Trump assumed that a low voter turn out would enable his Trump Cult to dominate in the swing states. He saw a reprise of 2016. That was the sly part of Trump's strategy but the stupid part is that he never anticipated that any of his assumptions could possibly be wrong -- and they mostly were --- and because he surrounded himself with sycophants who continuously told him what he wanted to hear, nobody in his orbit raised the possibility of the election not going according to plan. Trump has never demonstrated astute insight into any undertaking, business or political, over his entire adult career. What he's been is a con man, a manipulator, a salesman who can sell raincoats to people living in the Sahara. He's masked his failures by bullying adversaries through the courts and/or the media. He's trying to do the same now.

Be smart and get your flu shot. Be smarter and wear a mask and practice social distancing. Be really smart and don't share your air. November 19, 2020 - The U of Washington's IHME projects that more than 471,000 could die from coronavirus by March 1, 2021, about 30,000 more than its previous projection of more than 438,000 American deaths by March 1, 2021. November 21, 2020 - 255,905 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1460. November 20, 2020 - 254,445 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1935. November 19, 2020 - 252,510 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1962. November 18, 2020 - 250,548 Americans have died of coronavirus with a singe day death toll of 1841. Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 18-21, 2020: 1800 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 11-17, 2020: 1287 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, November 4-10, 2020: 1008 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 28-November 3, 2020: 852 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 21-27, 2020: 800 Average daily deaths from coronavirus, October 14-20, 2020: 726 November 1, 2020 - 22,748 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of October, an average of 734 per day. October 1, 2020 - 21,311 Americans died of coronavirus in the month of September, an average of 710 per day. November 1, 2020 - 231,003 Americans have died of coronavirus October 1, 2020 - 207,808 Americans have died of coronavirus. September 1, 2020 - 185,594 Amercians have died of coronavirus. July 1, 2020 - 127,299 Americans have died of coronavirus.

Trump's legal team has failed to provide even a single shred of evidence of fraud in any of the 32 court cases they've filed, resulting in the dismissal or withdrawal of 30 of those cases. The other two cases were about procedures not about ballots. There's nothing to discuss.

Obviously you're a fan of Tommy Tuberville.