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3 hours ago, somnus00 said:
Wilson went #2 overall for a reason. I didn't like him as a prospect and was happy the Jets took him, but the guy has the tools. It will be interesting to see if Sean Payton can get something out of him...at least now that he's out of the division.
My guess is that Wilson went #2 because Woody Johnson wanted him. I have nothing to prove anything but in the twenty plus years that Johnson has owned the Jests, the team has invested 4 first round picks in QBs: 2000 - #18 Chad Pennington, 2009 - #5 Mark Sanchez, 2018 - #3 Sam Darnold, and 2021 - #2 Zach Wilson. Only Pennington came close to being a franchise QB, and he simply couldn't stay on the field because of injuries. I believe that each of these QBs were drafted by a different GM, so it the only common denominator is Johnson.
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15 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
which is why months ago, I was advocating for cutting von miller, too and eating that whole ***** sandwich this year
alllllll the dead cap all at once, anyone who's trying to convince themselves that this year is our year is fooling themselves.
It takes a long time for players to come back from ACLs, almost always more than a year physically and frequently longer psychologically. If the Bills didn't feel that Miller could play significantly better than he had last season, they probably would have cut him. OTOH, if Miller didn't feel that he could play significantly better, he wouldn't have taken a $10 million pay cut to prove it. He would have either retired or gotten paid by some other team.
Furthermore, if the Bills had cut Miller, they would have created more holes on the team because they would have had to cut more veterans and been unable to replace them with decent players. Of course, they probably would have had to keep Diggs, which may or may not been a good thing.
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52 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
You've never seen a team with an elite quarterback lose a lot of players in an offseason and then perform poorly the following year or two while their replacements get acclimated?
best case scenario we're looking at a Pats 2009 type scenario where we bounce back after a year off.The Pats missed the playoffs in 2008 because Brady tore up his knee in the season opener. They went 11-5 but Miami beat them out with Chad Pennington taking them to a 11-5 record, too. If the Bills lost Allen in the first game of the season, they probably will miss the playoffs, too.
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39 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
That’s my point. A lot of those players (and other talented pieces) are now gone permanently. Yet some are claiming that McD will have them playing championship caliber defense regardless of the personnel on the field.Did you watch the Bills last season -- I mean really watch them by paying attention to what was going in the game not just kibbutzing with pals, especially in the last half of the season when they made their big run? They were playing championship caliber defense with an injury depleted unit. Matt Milano and Tre White were out for the season in the fifth game of the season, and they looked doomed but they regained their momentum and played tough the rest of the way. At the very end of the season and in the playoff win against Pittsburgh, they had more injuries to the DBs and the LBs. They only started 4 LBs -- including AJ Klein who came out of retirement to play -- against the Chiefs and were missing at least one DB and had another playing limited snaps IIRC, too. It wasn't the defense that let them down against KC, it was the offense that missed a couple of plays that would have won the game.
Poyer and Hyde were shadows of their previous selves last season. Injuries did in Hyde, and both had slowed down. White was showing signs of coming back but then he suffered another devastating injury and missed the last 12 games. Miller did next to nothing last season when he did come back, so if he gets back to even a shadow of himself in 2024, it will be a plus. Milano broke his leg rather than suffering a ligament injury so it's likely that he can come back strong this season. The Bills will miss Leonard Floyd on the DL but they're bringing back Ed Oliver who blossomed last season and AJ Epenesa who showed real progress. Tyrel Dodson at LB is gone but Terrel Bernard was outstanding as a 2nd year pro and should be better this year, especially paired with Milano. The 3 starting CBs from last season, Douglas, Benford, and Johnson are all coming back. Edwards and Rapp are the new safeties, which is somewhat worrisome but remember that Poyer and Hyde were largely unknowns when they were signed in 2017.
The Bills defense is a work in progress but there's still the draft and post-June 1 FA signings (when they get some extra cap space). They definitely need a pass rusher and probably another safety, and their depth on defense is shaky. McDermott runs a defense that seems to enable the Bills to plug-in players fairly easily as needed. IMO, the Bills D will likely be about as good as last season. If they can avoid devastating injuries to their best players, they have a chance to be better than last season.
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10 hours ago, Trev said:
Jim Harbaugh was the obvious play this year. Ben Johnson would bring a much healthier culture of being large, dominant and assertive. I’m sure there are several more prospects who could do a better job than our very average coach.
Harbaugh hasn't coached in the NFL in a decade, and the NFL in 2024 is very different than it was in 2014. I'm not sure that Harbaugh realizes that since he hired Greg Roman as his OC when he has Justin Herbert as his QB. Is Roman going to try to turn Herbert into a "dual threat QB" like Kaepernick or Lamar early in his career.
Ben Johnson has never been a HC in the NFL. A lot of coordinators don't make particularly good HCs, and the list of coordinators who've been successful in their first head coaching gigs is rather small. McDermott is one of them.
59 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said:
It’s been said here many times that Buffalo didn’t have the horses on defense to beat KC in the playoff game this year. Now they have less talent on that side of the ball.The Bills "didn't have the horses on defense to beat KC in the playoffs" in 2023 because their defense was decimated by injury late in the season. Not only were they missing Milano and White, but they also lost Douglas, Bernard, and a couple of other defenders for the playoff game with the Chiefs. They still nearly won the game.
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9 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:
We all expect a playoff birth.
The Bills have an impressive regular season and win 12+ games but are playoff fakers and even lose ANOTHER home playoff game.
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The Bills figure it out late (again) and go into the playoffs playing well, win a game and compete in another (again), which would be a surprise and give some hope for the following season.
Which scenario would you prefer?
I'd prefer the Bills to have some luck in the playoffs, especially in regard to coin flips and injuries.
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5 hours ago, US Egg said:
Maybe a Buffalo thing, often hear crick instead of creek.
That's definitely a WNY, especially Southern Tier, thing. I've heard people refer to the village of Silver Creek as Silver Crik.
One thing that I've noticed recently on tv is some actors seem to add an extra syllable to some words, most notably on words that end in ing. Examples:
go-ing becomes go-ing-ga or com-ing becomes com-ing-ga.
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43 minutes ago, Trev said:
McD is still our coach. No we’re not in contention and we won’t be until he is replaced.
So, who would you suggest to replace McDermott? Mike McDaniel whose Fins were great at beating the crap out of bottom feeders (Broncos, Jests, Commanders, etc) but managed a single win against teams with winning records? Maybe Bill Belichick?
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FO techie job gathering and analyzing data. Since I'm comfortably retired, I would do it for a pair of season tix equivalent to the current club level.
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3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:
None of those guys are keeping DCs awake at night, that's just homerism. Kincaid MIGHT after this season, but not now.
I don't think that the Bills need to have a roster full of elite offensive players who "keep DCs awake at night". If they give Allen a variety of good/excellent options in both the passing and running game, Allen will give every DC he faces nightmares. If the Bills were going to go for "elite" players, they might do better to add elite OLers than elite skill players. I'm not arguing for getting by with JAGs on offense but the reality is that a team that's paying a prime franchise QB has limited options for adding/keeping difference making players past their rookie contracts so a lot of their offensive players are going to be on a level of Kincaid and Cook.
I do think that the Bills absolutely need to find a couple of elite players on the defensive side, especially on the DL. The Bills have had some bad luck with defensive injuries the last couple of seasons. Miller, White, and Milano might have qualified as elite if not for injury. Ed Oliver came into his own last season, and hopefully the Bills find a DE to take advantage of his good play inside to create more QB pressures.
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1 hour ago, Neo said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Lion
I read this in middle school a million years ago. Great book for “everyman” fans.
Athletic culture, teamwork, personalities, and the real gulf between pro athletes and the rest of us.
I loved that book!
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9 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:
90% of you couldn't complete a pass with nobody there except you and the super fast receiver that gets 10 yards down the field in less than 2 seconds. Now add in the 6'4" OL that you can't see over, the 300 pound DL running full speed towards you, and 65,000 people watching. There's definitely an art to it all. Good luck!
I have no illusions that even fifty years ago as a 20 something I could complete even 1 NFL pass, so I owned the reality and voted a goose egg.
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8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:
Don’t be shocked if Defense is what we’re talking about Thursday night.I certainly hope not. With the quality and quantity of WR prospects in this draft and the Bills need for a speedy outside WR, it ought to be a no-brainer to pick the low hanging fruit rather than reaching for a lesser prospect on defense.
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1 hour ago, Just Jack said:
Saw Luke Combs at Highmark last night. Even though I do not know his music, it was a great show. Four opening acts, one being the Avett Brothers. Concert started at 5:45pm, LC came on at 9pm. Finished just about 11pm.
Better you went last night. I think the folks who go tonight are freeze their arses! The temp's not only going to be 40 or less but the winds are likely going to gusting over 20 MPH. ☹️
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41 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Fair enough
I guess, any of those guys (along with Newton) would be playing no more than 40-50% of the snaps. On the edge Von, Rousseau and Epenesa will play a lot. Jonathan and Toohill will play some too. On the interior, Ed O, Daquan, Austin Johnson and Deshawn Williams will all play. Obviously, a 1st will play quite a bit but the point being, they’ll be fine either way. Could they be better? Sure.
On the boundary, they are lacking 2 starters and 200 targets. Those guys are going to play, at minimum, 80% of the snaps. They’re going to have the ball thrown to them, A LOT. When Allen is the reason that you win or lose, you need to support him so that he doesn’t have to keep doing it all by himself.
I pretty much agree. I'm not a great follower of draft prospects and prognosticators (I've only started paying attention to all the draft talk in the last two weeks or so), but I think most of the draft analysts don't see this draft as particularly good one for defensive players, particularly edge rushers. This draft is loaded with WR prospects, both in quality and quantity. It's seems much more likely that the Bills find a top WR in this draft on Day 1 than they find a top pass rusher in the first round.
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2 hours ago, Billznut said:
I’m not sure what the previous poster was trying to say.
It might be a internet glitch. If the "submit reply" button doesn't respond, if you hit submit again ... and again ... and again until it finally goes, the resulting post will have multiple copies of your original text in one large post. Been there, done that. Always check your posts ...
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55 minutes ago, M. Wrotto said:
With expectations lower this year than the past couple of years, here’s a thought. Offer Josh to the Bears for both of their first rounders and their second. Draft Williams, Thomas and Mckonkeywith the first rounders. Fill out the rest of the roster from there. Put 2024 in the books as a probable reset, Look out league in 2025.
On the off chance that you are young person who is very new here and not a troll, I won't be crude or rude in my reply. However, there is another recent "trade Josh for Chicago's picks" thread -- along with its own poll. You should ask the moderators to combine this one with the earlier one.
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If Belichick was willing to be the Bills assistant HC and/or defensive coordinator, I would be all for it. Dick LeBeau helped the Stillers win two Super Bowls (XL and XLIII) as a sort of HC emeritus with the title assistant HC/defensive coordinator.
I think it's very unlikely that Belichick would consider such a position if the Bills offered it. I think he wants to be a HC in order to get the wins he needs to become the winningest HC.
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5 hours ago, Chaos said:
If you take an objective view of the current Bills roster, other than Allen, are there any players on the current roster that justify refering to Beane as a wizard. Or is it more accurate to say the current roster, other than Allen, is kind of meh.
I doubt you know what a "meh" roster is, dude.
Check out some of these wonderful rosters from the Drought years:
2001 - 3-13
2003 - 6-10
2006 - 7-9
2008 - 7-9
2010 - 4-12
2011 - 6-10
2014 - 9-7
These rosters contained some outstanding players but most of the roster spots were occupied by players that had to improve significantly to make JAG level, especially on the lines.
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While fire itself isn't an invention, the harnessing of fire for light, heat, and cooking food certainly was. It was the very first step on the road to civilization.
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26 minutes ago, Irv said:
Well, electricity wasn't really invented. How about the invention of the AC generator to produce electricity?
Actually both alternating and direct current produce electricity.
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6 hours ago, FLFan said:
I was not sure where else to post this but mods please merge if appropriate.
For those of you with Athletic access, Brugler’s 7 round mock draft posted today. Linked above. If you are not familiar with him, he publishes an excellent compendium and ranking of NFL draft prospects each year that can also be found on the Athletic. He has the Bills trading up with Jacksonville to 17 using their first this year, two fourths, and a second next year to take Brian Thomas. He has us with Cole Bishop, Safety in the second, and Javon Baker, WR in the third. This seems like an excellent result to me, but certainly interested in what the more knowledgeable draft gurus around here think.
I would be thrilled with Thomas in particular. Bishop seems more of a box safety but does have some cover skills as well. Baker is a potential replacement to Gabe’s role on this team, but with more ability to get open in intermediate routes. Good YAC ability as well.
I would be good with giving up that for Thomas. I think that most analysts think Thomas will go in the teens. I'm not into the draft more than to have a very superficial knowledge of the prospects the Bills could be targeting in the first round, so I defer others on the rest of the Bills picks.
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Belichick's career path was an outstanding DC who went on to become a great HC. I would love McDermott to follow that path.
Belichick's failure to secure a new job after his NE stint ended, has more to do with his having total control in NE for 24 years and how he's perceived as relating to his players than to his being a primarily defensive HC. Most owners don't want a GM/HC although a few teams still use this model. They want a GM and HC to work together rather than competing for supremacy.
I think that Belichick's perceived image is of a master manipulator and win-at-all-costs guy who doesn't tolerate mistakes, calls out anybody and everybody, etc. I don't know if that's a true image or not, but I think when fans think of Belichick, that's a lot of what they think. I think McDermott projects a much different image, one of a HC who cares for his players as people, is a patient teacher, is more encouraging coach than a disciplarian, and a HC who works well with others. Again, I don't know that that's an accurate image, either, but several media analysts have speculated that many owners are looking for HCAs who work well with today's players -- and that would be kinder, gentler guys than Belichick and more like McDermott.
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14 hours ago, Special K said:
How about Marshawn Lynch??
Of course, his failures in Buffalo were more off the field....but I think that counts.
Actually I think that Marshawn's failures in Buffalo were due to Dick Jauron's play to not lose by too much philosophy.
Will we be in Super Bowl contention this year?
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Gabe Davis was a fourth round draft pick so he was taken on Day 3. He probably outplayed his draft position somewhat, and he was probably a bargain at $4-5 million (which is JAG money for a WR) but he surely wasn't worth the $13+ million a year that he got from Jacksonville; he simply isn't fast enough or consistent enough. The Bills already have a couple of guys on their roster capable of replacing a significant amount of Davis' production: Khalil Shakir and Curtis Samuel.
The Bills do need to add two outside WRs (WR1 and WR2) before opening day. Most likely, the WR1 will come from round 1 or 2 of the draft. The Bills may take another WR on Day 3 or they may sign a veteran after June 1. They might do both.
The Bills have the second best QB in the NFL playing behind a solid OL with a dynamic young starting RB who is a threat in both the running and passing games. Shakir and Samuel are both competent WRs. They have a pair of young TEs who give them the ability to use 2 TE sets to effectively run or pass the ball. The sky is not falling on the Bills offense.