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That's definitely a WNY, especially Southern Tier, thing. I've heard people refer to the village of Silver Creek as Silver Crik. One thing that I've noticed recently on tv is some actors seem to add an extra syllable to some words, most notably on words that end in ing. Examples: go-ing becomes go-ing-ga or com-ing becomes com-ing-ga.

So, who would you suggest to replace McDermott? Mike McDaniel whose Fins were great at beating the crap out of bottom feeders (Broncos, Jests, Commanders, etc) but managed a single win against teams with winning records? Maybe Bill Belichick?

FO techie job gathering and analyzing data. Since I'm comfortably retired, I would do it for a pair of season tix equivalent to the current club level.

I don't think that the Bills need to have a roster full of elite offensive players who "keep DCs awake at night". If they give Allen a variety of good/excellent options in both the passing and running game, Allen will give every DC he faces nightmares. If the Bills were going to go for "elite" players, they might do better to add elite OLers than elite skill players. I'm not arguing for getting by with JAGs on offense but the reality is that a team that's paying a prime franchise QB has limited options for adding/keeping difference making players past their rookie contracts so a lot of their offensive players are going to be on a level of Kincaid and Cook. I do think that the Bills absolutely need to find a couple of elite players on the defensive side, especially on the DL. The Bills have had some bad luck with defensive injuries the last couple of seasons. Miller, White, and Milano might have qualified as elite if not for injury. Ed Oliver came into his own last season, and hopefully the Bills find a DE to take advantage of his good play inside to create more QB pressures.

I loved that book!

I have no illusions that even fifty years ago as a 20 something I could complete even 1 NFL pass, so I owned the reality and voted a goose egg.

I certainly hope not. With the quality and quantity of WR prospects in this draft and the Bills need for a speedy outside WR, it ought to be a no-brainer to pick the low hanging fruit rather than reaching for a lesser prospect on defense.

Better you went last night. I think the folks who go tonight are freeze their arses! The temp's not only going to be 40 or less but the winds are likely going to gusting over 20 MPH. ☹️

I pretty much agree. I'm not a great follower of draft prospects and prognosticators (I've only started paying attention to all the draft talk in the last two weeks or so), but I think most of the draft analysts don't see this draft as particularly good one for defensive players, particularly edge rushers. This draft is loaded with WR prospects, both in quality and quantity. It's seems much more likely that the Bills find a top WR in this draft on Day 1 than they find a top pass rusher in the first round.

It might be a internet glitch. If the "submit reply" button doesn't respond, if you hit submit again ... and again ... and again until it finally goes, the resulting post will have multiple copies of your original text in one large post. Been there, done that. Always check your posts ...

On the off chance that you are young person who is very new here and not a troll, I won't be crude or rude in my reply. However, there is another recent "trade Josh for Chicago's picks" thread -- along with its own poll. You should ask the moderators to combine this one with the earlier one.

If Belichick was willing to be the Bills assistant HC and/or defensive coordinator, I would be all for it. Dick LeBeau helped the Stillers win two Super Bowls (XL and XLIII) as a sort of HC emeritus with the title assistant HC/defensive coordinator. I think it's very unlikely that Belichick would consider such a position if the Bills offered it. I think he wants to be a HC in order to get the wins he needs to become the winningest HC.

I doubt you know what a "meh" roster is, dude. Check out some of these wonderful rosters from the Drought years: 2001 - 3-13 2003 - 6-10 2006 - 7-9 2008 - 7-9 2010 - 4-12 2011 - 6-10 2014 - 9-7 These rosters contained some outstanding players but most of the roster spots were occupied by players that had to improve significantly to make JAG level, especially on the lines.

While fire itself isn't an invention, the harnessing of fire for light, heat, and cooking food certainly was. It was the very first step on the road to civilization.

Actually both alternating and direct current produce electricity.

I would be good with giving up that for Thomas. I think that most analysts think Thomas will go in the teens. I'm not into the draft more than to have a very superficial knowledge of the prospects the Bills could be targeting in the first round, so I defer others on the rest of the Bills picks.

Belichick's career path was an outstanding DC who went on to become a great HC. I would love McDermott to follow that path. Belichick's failure to secure a new job after his NE stint ended, has more to do with his having total control in NE for 24 years and how he's perceived as relating to his players than to his being a primarily defensive HC. Most owners don't want a GM/HC although a few teams still use this model. They want a GM and HC to work together rather than competing for supremacy. I think that Belichick's perceived image is of a master manipulator and win-at-all-costs guy who doesn't tolerate mistakes, calls out anybody and everybody, etc. I don't know if that's a true image or not, but I think when fans think of Belichick, that's a lot of what they think. I think McDermott projects a much different image, one of a HC who cares for his players as people, is a patient teacher, is more encouraging coach than a disciplarian, and a HC who works well with others. Again, I don't know that that's an accurate image, either, but several media analysts have speculated that many owners are looking for HCAs who work well with today's players -- and that would be kinder, gentler guys than Belichick and more like McDermott.

Actually I think that Marshawn's failures in Buffalo were due to Dick Jauron's play to not lose by too much philosophy.

I'm undecided if you're trolling or if you simply refuse to admit, even to yourself, that you've said/wrote/posted something really stupid, so you have to defend that indefensible position to the death. Brandon Beane has better things to do than waste even a nanosecond on considering a trade offer for Josh Allen ... that's supposing that some other GM has wasted even a nanosecond thinking that the Bills would accept any offer for him.

This "epic" trade scenario is the stupidest idea that I've ever seen on TSW. The Biils won the NFL equivalent of a $500 million Powerball lottery in 2018. Trading away a generational QB talent in his prime makes absolutely no sense in the modern NFL with free agency and the salary cap forcing frequent player personnel turn over. How hard is it to find a truly great NFL QB? I bolded the first round QBs in the list below who I think are/were about equal with Josh Allen, which would be Rodgers and Mahomes. I used red for the 2 QBs who have had significant injuries that derailed or may derail their pro careers. Even if you include Luck and Burrow, the first round of 20 drafts have yielded only 5 what might be considered "generational QBs". That's less than 8% of the QBs taken in the first round. There were numerous franchise QBs who were very good and fewer who are/were close to great for a time, and a handful of likely HOFers. Rodgers, Mahomes and Allen, however, are on a level above any NFL QBs who have played in their prime in the 21st century except for Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Here are 20 years of the 66 first round QBs in this century who have finished their rookies contracts: 2001 ... 1 ... Michael Vick 2002 ... 1 ... David Carr 3 ... Joey Harrington 2003 ... 1 ... Carson Palmer 7 ... Byron Leftwich 19 ... Kyle Boller 22 ... Rex Grossman 2004 ... 1 ... Eli Manning 4 ... Philip Rivers 11 ... Ben Roethlisberger 22 .. JP Losman 2005 ... 1 ... Alex Smith 24 ... Aaron Rodgers 32 ... Jason Campbell 2006 ... 3 ... Vince Young 10 ... Matt Leinart 11 ... Jay Cutler 2007 ... 1 ... JaMarcus Russell 22 ... Brady Quinn 2008 ... 3 ... Matt Ryan 18 ... Joe Flacco 2009 ... 1 ... Matthew Stafford 5 ... Mark Sanchez 17 ... Josh Freeman 2010 ... 1 ... Sam Bradford 25 ... Tim Tebow 2011 ... 1 ... Cam Newton 8 ... Jake Locker 10 ... Blaine Gabbert 12 ... Christian Ponder 2012 ... 1 ... Andrew Luck 2 ... Robert Griffin 8 ... Ryan Tannehill 22 ... Brandon Weeden 2013 ... 16 ... EJ Manuel 2014 ... 3 ... Blake Bortles 22 ... Johnny Manziel 32 ... Teddy Bridgewater 2015 ... 1 ... Jameis Winston 2 ... Marcus Mariota 2016 ... 1 ... Jared Goff 2 ... Carson Wentz 26 ... Paxton Lynch 2017 ... 2 ... Mitch Trubisky 10 ... Patrick Mahomes 12 ... Deshaun Watson 2018 ... 1 ... Baker Mayfield 3 ... Sam Darnold 7 ... Josh Allen 10 ... Josh Rosen 32 ... Lamar Jackson 2019 ... 1 ... Kyler Murray 6 ... Daniel Jones 15 ... Dwayne Haskins 2020 ... 1 ... Joe Burrow 5 ... Tua Tagovailoa 6 ... Justin Herbert 26 ... Jordan Love

The question about 2018 really is, would Beane have traded up to #7 if Allen was already gone? Usually those first round trades are finalized when a team is on the clock ... so that the team trading up knows their guy is available. I certainly hope that that was how Beane worked it to get Allen rather than just trading up to #7 on the hope that Allen would be available. Trading up without being sure that the player you want will be available seems a pretty stupid move.

Thanks for the enlightenment. I think that many of those conspiracy theories, though, rather quickly crossed over to real conspiracies because evidence that there was some truth to them was found. The Business Coup was discovered before it took place. President Kennedy nixed the CIA's terror plot they intended to blame on Cuba. The 1970s CIA assassination plots were discovered by Congress only a few years in.

I don't think you understand the difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory. If something illegal or sinister or unethical, occurs that's the result of two or more people planning it, that's a conspiracy. Conspiracies leave clues that remain available after the fact to investigators -- conspirators themselves, people that conspirators may have confided in or confessed to or who may have seen something/heard relevant to the conspiracy, forensic evidence, various paper or electronic records, surveillance film or photos, etc. Investigators may not be able to gather enough evidence to convict the conspirators in a court of law or it may take them many years to get enough evidence to do so, but there is always some evidence of the conspiracy very early on in any investigation. An example of a famous conspiracy in the US: Oklahoma City Bombing A conspiracy theory is an alleged conspiracy that's lacking with any substantial evidence that an a conspiracy exists. The supposed "evidence" that supports conspiracy theories is most often denial that a single individual could have carried out the action so there must be others involved. Another kind of "evidence" believers cite to support some conspiracy theories is pseudo-science or debunked science. Frequently supporters of conspiracy theories may cite coincidences or omissions or mistakes as "evidence" of a conspiracy by someone. Conspiracy theories linger for decades because no evidence ever comes to light, no matter how much rehashing of the facts. There are no death bed confessions from co-conspirators. No researchers working on other historical events about the same time never find some physical evidence that sheds new light on anything.

Name three conspiracy theories that have been around for a quarter of a century or more that have been proven true. I asked you this question before at the beginning of this thread and you never answered, so answer it now or you will prove that you are the one who is " not a serious person or you live in an echo chamber" -- and that you no respect others' view:

What conspiracy theories have been "proven correct"? After 60 years, there's as much proof that the CIA killed Kennedy as there is that the Cubans, Russians or Mafia killed him. John Wilkes Booth died in a barn in southern Virginia in April 1865. FDR didn't know about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor before it happened. Hitler didn't escape to South America. Astronauts landed on the moon several times. 9/11 wasn't "an inside job". Speculation, rumors, coincidences, debunked pseudo-scientific theories and outright lies do not constitute "proof". For years, the general assumption has been that Brett Favre was a douche because he wasn't particularly helpful to Rodgers when both were on the Packers. Now, Favre is no prize as a person but maybe it wasn't just Favre.