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The reports of Glenn having health problems are greatly exaggerated. He didn't have any issues until he injured his foot some time in second half of the 2016 season. The decision was made to give it time to heal rather than Glenn having surgery, and that wasted most of the 2017 season. Cordy's had successful surgery on the offending foot after being put on IR late last season, and should be good to go. Glenn is one of the top pass blocking LTs in the game, and he's a decent run blocker, too. He's a good teammate and a good citizen. The Bengals got a good deal.

I hit a deer on I86 about 15 years ago ... did about $5k damage to my car. Hitting a cow at highway speeds could be fatal not just to the bovine since Holsteins tend to be much taller and a lot heavier than a deer, and beefers are significantly heavier. Livestock wandering loose on the roadways is a major hazard of driving on back roads in rural Chautauqua and Cattaraugus Counties, especially in Amish country.

Nate Burleson said the same thing on Good Morning Football this am: Barkely at #1 and either OG Nelson or some other blue chip or trading out for more draft riches. Any number of NFL media analysts are predicting that the Browns are going to take Barkley with the #1 pick because they don't think that they like any of the QBs in this draft enough. Also Dorsey said a few weeks ago that the Browns were open to trading the #1 pick "for the right price". He wouldn't say that if the Browns had already predetermined that they were taking a specific QB at #1. They don't have to put up any "smokescreens".

I'm a Boomer but I have no problem with Millenials. Those that do are simply crotchety curmudgeons who forgot the stupid **** they did and said back in their wilder days.

They just redid his contract to make it more cap friendly. I don't think he's going anywhere.

The fault in your logic is that the Browns have both the #1 and the #4 pick. That the Browns have hinted that they were "open" to trading the #1 suggests that they don't think one of the QBs is so special they have to have him. If the Browns don't love a particular QB, then why would they take him #1 over Saquan who is easily the best prospect in the draft? It's not like they don't get another crack at a QB until round 2.

That's all fine and dandy but drafting JP Losman or EJ Manuel at #1 wouldn't have made either significantly better (although Losman might have been better playing for somebody other than Jauron). Being drafted #1 overall didn't prevent David Carr or JaMarcus Russell from busting. Draft position isn't what determines a QB's success or failure.

Unless they really love one of the QB prospects, I think the Browns take Saquan at #1 and then grab a QB at #4. IMO, the Giants want Barkley, and Cleveland knows that. I don't think they're all that interested in a QB, especially if the Browns take the one they like best, so they could be open to trading down.

Lie to yourself but Brady, Brees, and Rodgers would have struggled playing with our WR corps from 2017. The Bills absolutely need to get better at WR, but there are still quality WRs out there ... and likely more to be added.

This is seriously flawed logic. It's as easy to miss on a QB in even in the greatest QB draft ever -- as they did in 1983 -- as it is to miss a QB in an average QB draft. More importantly, a great QB draft isn't about the number of prospects in the first round but how many good/great QBs actually come out of the draft. The team needs to judge prospects on their own merits, judged against an ideal, not judged against the other QBs in the class. If you can't get the QB you want, then it might be a wiser move to pass on the pretenders in the first round and take a lesser guy later in the draft, especially since some good QBs have come out of the later rounds in recent years.

I haven't heard anything but the trade didn't become official until 4pm today.

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I agree. I'm not complaining about trading Glenn to move up to #12, making a further move into the Top Five infinitely more feasible than it seemed last week. I just wanted to remind all the idiots who wanted Glenn gone because "he wasn't worth the money" that good LTs are almost "priceless". That's why Cinci was willing to swap #12 for #21 (and change) to get Glenn despite his foot question.

Except for Brady, all of these QBs played their college football more than 20 years ago, and some more than 30 years ago. Both the college and pro passing games have changed significantly since.

It's the going rate for quality LTs which is why I was against trading Glenn for any reason except to move up for a QB.

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No, it doesn't. It's pretty much a foregone conclusion around the league that the Bills are angling for a first round QB in the draft, so any veteran QB who signs here has to accept that he's here for a placeholder for that young QB. Backup QBs with aspirations to be starters don't want anything to do with the Bills; they're going to be interested in signing with teams where they have better opportunities to become starters. Think of Ryan Fitzpatrick signing first with the Bills and then with the Jests.

EJ Manuel. Blaine Gabbert, and Christian Ponder all have NFL practice and preseason experience plus they have significant NFL regular season experience, too. Whoopty-doo.

What "talent" are the Bills "watching ... walk away"? Get a grip, dude! If AJ McCarron was such a great talent, he'd have been drafted higher than the fifth round. The Bills are looking for a modest veteran FA QB to serve, at best, as a placeholder for a season or part of one before they turn the reins over to the young QB they traded up for in 2018. "Veteran" means a player with more than 3 games of NFL experience. Somebody like Hoyer is adequate, and better than some others whose names have been bandied about.

What the hell is the fascination with AJ McCarron????? He's started 3 NFL games and played in 11 games, total, in 4 NFL seasons. He's attempted all of 133 passes. At best, he's a replacement for Peterman as as backup QB but a "bridge QB" he's a joke ...

If I were the Browns GM, I wouldn't do it. If I really loved one of the QBs, I'd take him at #1 and possibly consider trading #4 for the right price. If I wasn't in love with one of the QBs, then I'd take Barkley at #1 and the QB I liked best of the ones left at #4 (all 4 could be available if the Giants and Colts pass on QBs and don't trade away their picks).

If you think the Bills had one of the top ten best OLs in the NFL in 2017, you obviously watched Bills game with your beer goggles on. PFF is clueless in its statistical evaluation of OLs. They totally lacked consistency, they failed way too often to provide adequate holes for the RBs, and they were saved from giving up many more sacks by having a QB with ultimate escapability. Furthermore, the only reason that this unit improved in the second half of the season was because it played so poorly in the first half.

It's not funny. It's reprehensible that the OP would proffer such an idea even as a joke.

Good LTs don't come cheap! Moreover, while Dawkins played well for a rookie, he certainly didn't play well enough to be considered one of the better LTs in the league -- and there's no guarantee that he will even play as well in 2018 as he did in 2017. It's just not QBs who can look great before defenders get their numbers. As for how "well" the Bills OL did without Cordy Glenn last year, consider how many times Shady was stopped for 0 or minus yards (I think he may have led the league in those) and how often the pass rushers were in the backfield almost before Taylor got the ball.

I can see the Browns taking Barkley at #1 (to get ahead of the Giants) and then using #4 on a QB, meaning neither Cleveland pick would be available for trade. Too many trade up advocates seem not to understand that a team cannot trade up if the teams at the top aren't willing to trade down. In both 2011 and 2012, there was no way that either Carolina or Indy were going to trade out of the #1 pick no matter how much another team offered them.