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If IIRC, the Bills could have released Taylor before March 1 without a cap penalty -- or at least a much smaller cap hit. In fact, I think most Bills fans expected him to be released. Instead, the geniuses McDermott/Beane kept a QB that they didn't want just so they could trade him for a third round pick before the draft and take a $7.6 million cap hit. What kind of stupid **** is that???? Then they compound their stupidity by signing AJ McCarron for $5 million and trading him away a couple of months later and incurring $2.6 million in dead cap money. That's $9.6 million in dead cap space for 2 QBs who aren't on the roster ... but at least they got a third rounder and a fifth rounder for all that money they don't have to pay to mediocre QBs. Instead, they're paying about $600k for Nate Peterman to impersonate an NFL QB. Too.Stupid.To.Be.True.

Why would I believe the Bills will get better this season or next or as long as McDermott and Beane are running the show? McDermott has missed on his first OC, on his DC, on his OL coach so far. Had Beane even heard of the NFL salary cap before he was hired as Bills GM because he is obviously clueless about how it limits personnel decisions and vice versa. The scouts McDermott/Beane hired to replaced the Bills scouts they fired are as crappy as the HC and GM who hired them. The lack of talent on this current Bills team, the huge dead cap amount, and the embarrassing effort on the field says it all: this regime is Joel Collier/Harvey Johnson/John Rauch/Jim Ringo/Kay Stephenson/Hank Bullough bad.

We've already seen results, just not the ones any sane person would want to see.

When will that be? 2050????

Don't confuse the Bills faithful with reality.

The Bills were not "competitive" in the second half. The Chargers eased up. I don't know their roster much beyond their starters, but my guess is that a lot of LA's backups got considerable playing time during the second half. There is absolutely no hope with this combo of HC and FO because they're going to make sure that Josh Allen, apparently the best -- and maybe only good -- acquisition they've made will never have a real opportunity to succeed as long as they're in charge due to their incompetence. Actually, if that statement isn't true, then what does that say about McDermott and Beane if they can't even accurately evaluate the performance of the players they've had on their team all preseason? Suggesting a conspiracy theory seems better than simply accusing them of incompetence because Williams and Alexander have stunk it up in both games.

I'm not sure that you got my point. I'm not knocking Allen at all. I like Allen, although I didn't like the pick originally. I think he's played really well given his inexperience and the putrid team around him. My point is that I don't think that Allen can be successful with the talent level around him, and I don't believe that McDermott and Beane will bring in the talent to help him. They suck at talent evaluation on both sides of the ball. They suck at just about every aspect of personnel management. They apparently don't understand offensive football, and haven't shown much interest in improving the offense as evidenced by drafting only 1 OLer (late in the 5th round) and replacing Wood and Incognito with bottom feeder FAs who wouldn't be starters on any other NFL team if either even made another NFL roster. Their attitude seems to be that Allen sinks or swims with whatever trash they put around him, and that's setting up Allen -- or any QB -- to struggle with no protection and no targets.

Marrone by a mile if for nothing else but that he was smart enough to realize he's not Bill Belichick or Andy Reid to be both HC and defacto GM at the same time.

I think it's irrelevant whether Allen has the goods or not. I think he's been set up to fail because McDermott and Beane are going to "fill holes next offseason" with the same kind of trash they've filled them with this past off season because they can't evaluate talent, are clueless when it comes to cap management, and are philosophically stuck in the 1970s.

One of the guys on one of the pre-game shows said that the three QBs who threw for 400 yards last week would repeat that feat this week. Fitzy and Rivers are looking good for it. Brees not so much ... only 132 yards in the first half.

They're playing for other teams ... Philly, Jax, KC, Cinci ...

Might? You obviously don't rush to judgement.

At least the Bills appear to be giving some effort under Allen, especially on offense.

And he just put the Chargers up by 14.

Mahomes just threw his second TD to Travis Kelce to go up 14-0 over Pitt in Pittsburgh after Sammy Watkins caught a nice pass to get them to the Steelers 20.

It'll be 5 years AFTER McDermott and Beane are shown the door.

Bills fans are true believers in killing the messenger.

Another McDermott/Beane excuse thread! The latest scapegoat for the total incompetence of McDermott and Beane is now the CBA, which is not only the same for all NFL teams but has been in effect for several years (since 2011 IIRC). Guess what, Bills fans? The current state of the team is not the fault of Rex Ryan or Doug Whaley or Tyrod Taylor or Marcel Dareus or Vlad Ducasse or the NFL/NFLPA CBA. It's the fault of HC Sean McDermott and GM Brandon Beane who don't know what the hell they're doing -- and the current Bills corporate food chain all the way up to the Pegulas who not only hired McDermott and Beane but gave them far more power over the team than either one should have given their lack of experience.

Then why did they release Washington in the first place? If they felt that they had to do this, then why didn't they just promote Thomas from the PS in the first place? What "good decisions" would those be, especially on offense? Trading away Darby for Matthews wasn't a good move. Neither was letting EJ Gaines walk away. Trading away Watkins who was the only speed receiver the Bills had and who could catch anything near him for a draft pick and then using a draft pick to get Kelvin, a much less talented receiver with chronically bad knees and apparently stone hands doesn't look particularly good either.

Reality is that quality OLers seldom hit FA unless they are prohibitively expensive. Most of the OLers available in FA are either at the end of their careers or they suck. The same with top WRs although the situation isn't as dire; there are usually a better selection of mid-level WRs. The Bills could have had two very good WRs in Woods and Goodwin for several more years for less than what 1 WR similar to Woods in talent will cost them in 2019. Another problem the Bills will face next year in FA is that they will have to again pay more than they should to acquire top FAs because of how badly the team is likely to be.

One doesn't have to be stupid in order to do stupid things, especially when one is engaged in a situation that seems overwhelming for some reason. In the case of McDermott, he simply doesn't have enough experience as a HC -- and possibly not the temperament -- to be given control of personnel. Bill Belichick or Andy Reid he's not. Beane is certainly not the guy to really help him since he has no professional experience evaluating or managing football talent/pro personnel. McDermott and Beane are desperate because they are overwhelmed. I've been saying this for a while. The details are somewhat different, but the general contours of the current regime is scarily reminiscent of the 2006-2009 Bills under Jauron.

What's not funny is an NFL HC selecting players to acquire or get rid of based on factors that are irrelevant to how someone plays football, and there is absolutely nothing more irrelevant than players' religious beliefs -- or lack of same. I don't know if McDermott is doing that, but he seems to be intolerant of players who don't fit his narrow parameters for acceptable attitudes and behavior regardless of their on-field play.

At the rate McDermott and Beane are creating holes and piling up dead cap space, there won't be enough FAs available to fill even half of them ... and that will just be on the defense. Allen will just have to wait ... It all very S-I-M-P-L-E. McDermott and Beane are clueless when it comes to talent evaluation and personnel management and are throwing excrement at the wall to see what sticks.

This is all Whaley's fault, of course.?

A healthy JAG with 7 years in the NFL is likely to be much better than a rookie WR drafted in the 6th round who has never played in an NFL game ... and who is listed as questionable due to a knee injury that kept him out of Game 1.