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You have a guy leading that organization who has coached football longer than I've been alive and I am going to be 42 in March. Between he and Spags they have 77 years of coaching experience. They've seen it all. They know the right move all the time. Very hard to overcome that.

I agree. They will eventually add players to the roster making the talent level lower as well. I love the Bills and football in general but how many games are too many.

Two teams will get byes. Once the NFL adds an 18th game in the next few years I imagine they will add another wild card to each confernce. It will water down the product and make for useless games but they will make more money.

Well hopefully he goes to the Chiefs because he is currently on the only team that has beat them in the last season and a half.

Give the state of the team at the time it happened and the money it cost them Von is the worst free agent signing in Bills history.

Fully agree. Hollins' catch was something to behold as well.

I agree with you there. Aside from his defense giving up 29 points.

I didnt say he didnt have a good game. He just wasnt great. I understand people here are very sensitive about Allen criticism, rightfully so. But again he had the ball in his hands to win the game and he didnt. Should Kincaid have caught it, probably. But Josh also didnt read the blitz well. He also rolled right into which is what forced him to have to make a hero throw.

We can go back and forth all day. Mahomes has led game winning drives in the post season and Super Bowl. Josh had his chance last night and didnt get it done. Had any of us been asked before the game started if Josh Allen has the ball with 3 minutes left to go win the game would you take it...we all would have. Was the coaching perfect not at all. Did his pass catchers let him down, yes they did. Did his line decide to have a crap game at the worst time possible, yes they did. That said, our "only all pro talent" as another poster put it had the ball in his hand to go win the game and he didnt.

Hatred of Josh Allen? Completely wrong there. The guy is one of my favorite players ever. That said, my love for him as a player doesnt completely blind me to the fact that he wasnt great last night. It also doesnt blind me to the fact that he isnt in Mahomes' league as a post season QB. If the team gets you the ball with 3 minutes to go to score a winning touchdown, the great all time QBs do that. Sometimes in spite of their own teams shortcomings. Mahomes does that. Consistently. Josh does not.

Our QB had the frickin ball in his hands to go win the game with 3 minutes left!!!!!!!!!!! And he crapped the bed. Stop blaming coaching. The all time greats take that ball and win the game. Switch QBs and the Bills likely are going to the Super Bowl. You know why because when Mahomes is blitzed he climbs the pocket then moves laterally to buy time. Our QB decided to roll right into the blitz and heave the ball back over his body.

Yet you still have people who want to tell you they only win because of Reid, Jones, and Kelce despite each one of them being on teams that constantly lost in the playoffs with Alex Smith at QB.

I dont know how you can watch that game last night and think Josh is the same as Mahomes. One guy was cool as the other side of the pillow, playing within an offense, taking what the defense gave him. The other guy was jumpy as hell the first quarter and rolling into pressure in the 4th. And if its not Mahomes how do you explain Reid not winning diddly crap until they drafted Mahomes?

No its not. And its not even close.

If you can find someone who can stop KC let me know. They've been to the Super Bowl 5 of 6 years. The last 11 of 15 years the Quarterback for the AFC in the Superbowl has been named Brady, Mahomes, or Manning. We can complain about coaching, defense, injuries etc but its a waste of time. The reality is the Chiefs have the 2nd best QB of all time and we don't. And until we have that guy we aren't likely to get to or win the Super Bowl. Josh is a helluva player. He isnt the best quarterback.

He likely does. That said, he text Beane to go draft Kincaid and Coleman. So maybe we should leave the personnel choices to someone else.

So you think the results may be a little skewed given its less than 12 hours after them losing one of the biggest games in franchise history?

Honestly outside of the running game and wide out screens I am not sure what Brady is really scheming up. Onto next season I guess.

Again they had the ball at the end of the game with a chance to win. That's the job of a defense. Not to hold a team to ten points. It's the frickin Chiefs with the second best quarterback to ever play in the NFL. You sure as hell better outacore them.

Did the defense make Josh and the offense fail to win the game on the last drive. The defense did ifs job. It's not 1975.

He's found some gems. That said the talent isn't good enough.

Kelce finding easy throws isn't about scheme. It's about him freelancing when teams play zone. Kincaid just isn't very good.

He rolled right into pressure the last play of the game. Any clue why Spags sent pressure right? They knew Josh wouldn't just drop back, climb the pocket and throw the ball. They knew he would try and buy time rolling right because he always always does. That's hardly lights out.

Just kind of feels over to me. They don't have enough talent on either side of the ball and not enough money or high enough draft picks to change it. They will middle around for 3 or 4 more years and then probably switch coaches. By that time Josh will be near the end of his career and despite a lot of good games the Bills will still not have a.championship.

Wrong. The offensive had the ball with a future hall of fame qb wifh 3 minutes to go to win the game. They threw up on themselve. The defense wasn't the issue.