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And still won. And wins 92% of the time. Rosen is currently at 59%, his team maybe terrible but if I am taking someone top ten I want someone who rises above that, not someone who throws pick sixes across his body.

He didnt throw five touchdowns, he threw four and had two picks to go along with them. Just to clear things up was his defense to blame for his 60% completion rate against the steel secondary of the Memphis defense?

Rosen is so polarizing on this board its impossible to get an accurate portrayl of him. Not sure if people are watching the games or basing their opinions off of liking or disliking personally but I am still amazed by all his hype. Not going to argue it anymore because its been beaten to death, but for context sake Texas A and M beat Nicholls by ten points last week, they were also down to UL Layfaette this week before winning. Easily take Darnold, Rudolph, and Mayfield before him. However it seems a lot of Bills fans love him, including our AM morning guy who is very impressed with Rosen's podcast...tell me again how little time you have for school.

Statistically both Soccer and Lacrosse are just as likely to cause concussions. Mens water polo is the most dangerous high school sport to take part in. The difference here is those sports dont fit a narrative or create as many clicks and out rage amongst middle America.

The good news is smart money is on both of us being right. Quarterback success rate in the NFL is something around 19% of those drafted. Agree to disagree and wait to see how it turns out.

I feel like we may have had this exact discussion in another thread. Feel like you're generalizing about Mayfield being a loose cannon from one incident. The Manziel comparison to me is a bit lazy. Not every athletic "short" quarterback from a spread offense is Johnny Manziel. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just feel like this one is wrong. Mayfield makes passes I dont think Manziel could have made. I'd love to see the comparison between Mayfield's and Manziel's average time between snap and throw. I think that would put the comparison to bed quickly. When looking at both Mayfield and Rosen, simply put I think they both have jerk tendecies, but in terms of pure arrogance Mayfield is nowhere near Rosen. If you want to portray Rosen as a well read forward thinking person thats fine, but to me he comes across as a person who has very little clue about real life and comes across as immature and ignorant because of it. I dont get the sense he is a team first leader. But make no mistake about it, he has character issues. Its been well publicized he isnt well liked by his teammates, ala Connor Cook. Also, think its a little early to put Chad Kelly in the same category as Manziel. Statsitically speaking its likely, but it could be for any number of reasons.

Please explain the Manziel comparison outside of playing in a spread offense? Manziel was a dual threat QB. Mayfield is athletic but is so far from being a dual threat, he averages 22 rushing yards a game. His mobility is inside the pocket, does he scramble outside of the tackle box yes, but thats more akin to someone like Tyrod Taylor. Manziel was a sand lot football player. The height thing remains to be seen, but standing next to a 6'2 reporter after last weeks game he wasn't dwarfed. Personally think Rosen's character concerns are much worse than Mayfields'.

Easily my favorite player in college football right now. I dont think he can challenge Darnold as the #1QB in the class, just doesnt have the physical stature. However, I dont think its unfair to say he should be in the conversation for #2 with Mason Rudolph. The Manziel comparisons are probably a bit unfair. Totally different animal. Manziel was extremely talented and may have been an amazing pro if he cared the least bit about football. Manziel also ran a lot, Mayfield doesnt do that nearly as well. Mayfield has also started a lot more games, including games against quality competition. Manziel had Evans to throw it up to, Mayfield doesnt have a player like that. He is a throw first QB and I think he is incredibly underrated because of his height. Not saying it shouldnt be an issue, however Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are examples that it isnt always the rule.

It felt different to me, but in the way where I wasnt excited to watch the game. I wanted to be, but for some reason couldnt get. I think it was because its the Jets, but overall I am not expecting a lot from this season. Hoping the excitement comes back for the Carolina game.

A win is a win. They have wideouts, they will use them. Gotta start taking it on a game by game basis and not overreact to the first one. With that being said I unfollowed all the Blitz reporters when they made it 3 dollars a month. Not a lot of money, but the content doesnt justify it. Will only miss Carruci and Trepasso.

I dont think the issue was ever not resigning TD Mike, the issue was not putting a higher round tender on him. Should have learned from the lesson the year before with Hogan. To your point on Banyard, reminds me a lot of TD Mike. But he has to show he can hold onto the ball.

Was hoping Peterman would change his number.

Really like this signing. Didnt realize he was available.

Can I ask, in all seriousness why he is a safe bet? He is below 60% career completion percentage and hasnt been a proven winner. Heard the exact same things about Hackenberg coming out, that his team was to fault. A good quarterback makes his team better. Just dont see it with Rosen

Mason Rudolph, Baker Mayfield and Luke Falk all had great games though

Said it many times on here, dont get the fascination with Rosen. His film doesnt lie he is inaccurate and doesnt win football games. Lots of excuses for this kid. 9 for 23 says it all.

Mason Rudolph and Baker Mayfield were my favorites going into the season and they both showed out huge in week 1. Darnold is a tough on to figure out huge wind up like Byron Leftwich but he is a winner. Josh Allen has amazing arm talent some of the best Ive ever seen. Just not sure he is a legit NFL Qb. Think Rosen is 100% hype. His tape is about as average as they come, dont get the Rodgers comparisons with sub 60% completion percentage.

Really like Mason Rudolph and feel like he will be the QB that starts climbing draft boards when the season starts. Also really like James Washington but feel like round three is a little low for him. As it stands right now, and its early, I'd expect him to go late round one. I'd say the same for Chubb who is currently considered as a 1st round pick. Otherwise this looks good to me.

Wasnt Edwards one of the designers of that interactive football simulator for NFL QB's aimed at showing real game scenarios to speed up development? Pretty sure it was called the 3 and Out and focused heavily on unblocked corners and safeties coming unblocked off the edge.

What I remember from that Browns game is they couldnt move the ball at all until they put Manziel in. If he cared about football at all during that time I think the worst he would have been was someone like Tyrod Taylor, he had the talent. Complete waste, but maybe he has a Flutie sort of comeback. You never know.

Followed quickly by this: The TSN report regarding the CFL’s Hamilton Tiger-Cats and quarterback Johnny Manziel is partially right, and its’ partially dead wrong. Yes, the Tiger-Cats have given Manziel a workout. But, no, they haven’t decided that he’s not ready to resume his football career, due to “too many red flags” or otherwise. .http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/30/source-tiger-cats-remain-very-interest-in-johnny-manziel/

John Holacek Antwoin Smith Kurt Schultz Jeff Burris Angelo Crowell George Wilson Butch Rolle Looking back over the roster I also found my least favorite Bill of all time. Bennie "Turnstyle" Anderson. Those olines in the Losman/Holcomb/Edwards time frame were just God awful.

His contract was terminated when he became a suspect in the Odin Llyod deal. He was involved in a shooting prior to that, granted not a suspect in that shooting but they were aware of him being there. They were also aware of his ties to gang activity coming out of Florida. Pretty well documented that he liked to show off his gang related tattoos to his coaches. They were aware of him being a bad guy, and the ties he had with unfavorable people. They turned a blind eye to that until it was obvious he was going to face charges.

Makes sense. So where do I order my J.J. Nelson jersey?

I am pretty sure the murder in Boston happened while he was still a part of the team. They knew what he was capable of, and were also very aware of his gang ties when they drafted him. They didnt release him until it was readily apparent to the entire world he was a murderer.