BurpleBull

Agreed. Gotta upgrade from Athletech to Under Armor when you decide to don the CH-75.

Somebody didn't get the memo. The memo: You gotta pay your dues before rocking the Chris Hairston 75.

I'm holding to Peterman as starter although I believe McCarron has a good chance. The competition will come down to McCarron and Peterman...I really believe this. I feel good about Peterman taking control of this thing.

Also from the first day of practice: Perhaps day one of training camp served as evidence of things needed to be fine tuned by each QB versus proof of permanent limitations.

No worries. I was literally seconds away from posting this exact tweet when you did.

You are clearly the one trying to discredit what Peterman has added to himself through work and repetition. You're the one adding to quotes for the sake of subtraction. Not me. I merely stated a fact...and you apparently don't like it.

No matter how you want to spin it, it's an increase in velocity that wasn't present last season and acquired through putting in work.

The work he's put in to improve the velocity on his throws from last season, for one. The media guys attending training camp have acknowledged a legit increase in velocity behind his throws.

There's audio?

The drought lives! Do you even follow the reports? From most accounts John Miller has been very good. A poster who attended camp said that Wyatt Teller also looked very good as a run blocker especially. Ducasse is a vet who was solid last season; I haven't read anything about his play falling off, so I'd imagine he's being his usual self at LG.

Highlighting Peterman's off-season progress is just that, I don't think that's propping him up.

If the coaches are holding to a depth chart versus reps, I'd say he's second on the depth chart behind McCarron.

Peterman found Cam Phillips on a rollout bomb in the end zone during 11-on-11 that brought the crowd to life at St. John Fisher. Not found in the quote, but I'm assuming they are mentioning the same play in all three reports despite the bottom quote having the session as 11-on-11. These are all reports from Day 2 and there was only one mention of Peterman throwing a deep pass to Cam Phillips in the end zone that day. In any case, you would have never accepted the notion that Peterman could drive the football 50 yards downfield a month ago.

And I'm sure you would've acknowledged Peterman as even being capable of completing a 50- yard pass, of any kind, on a rollout a month ago. I'm certain.

Wait a second, wasn't your point that he couldn't generate the same improved zip behind a pass, if his feet weren't set in the pocket, but rather on the move? I provide evidence that he can do it, because he has done it... Now your argument is that the completion used as evidence to support Peterman's development was made too far down the field to count.

I'm not there either, I'm just going off of what I see in the videos provided like most of us and you can see that the ball just comes out differently. I was commenting more so on Peterman's throwing mechanics not his poise or footwork in the pocket early on. I'm finding that playing experience covers a multitude of QB sins or at least the one pertaining to arm strength, because those who criticize Peterman's arm strength don't consistently do the same with McCarron, despite placing him and Peterman in the same class of Bills' QBs, who 'won't even think about making that throw' when comparing him against Josh Allen.

You've used that tweet once before, but since you've chosen to use it again, I'll refer to the post I used the first time in response again. from newyorkupstate.com Buffalo Bills training camp day 2: Nathan Peterman shows off arm (8 observations) Peterman shows off the arm Josh Allen gets all the big headlines when it comes to the deep ball, but Peterman showed he can sling it when he needs to get downfield. Peterman found Cam Phillips on a rollout bomb in the end zone during 11-on-11 that brought the crowd to life at St. John Fisher. A rollout bomb to the end zone would count towards being able to execute the whole bunch of rollouts Daboll plans to incorporate I'm guessing?

Peterman looks like a different QB throwing-wise. I think he's gonna come on strong and make noise.

Props for the video descriptions, as appreciated as the videos themselves.

The two posts you respond to here gives you the city and state that you were going for.

Training camp overload?

Firebaugh...it's Firebaugh.

Mike Love starting to get some attention. I think he's retained, backs up Trent Murphy and Shaq Lawson is traded if failing to perform up to the coaches' standards. I see ability in him to serve in the same capacity that Shaq Lawson has.

Though this competition isn't to determine the QB of the future---I don't think anybody is suggesting that it is---the future can become subject to change if Peterman consistently outperforms Allen in real-game action moving forward, never relinquishing his position of starting QB--- assuming he wins the current QB non-competition as you put it.

I agree that you just may be talking Zucchini. "Allen's flashed, but been inconsistent to this point". "No one's taken the bull by the horn...". Sounds very much like the opinion of a reporter who sees things from a different perspective and it sounds very much performance-based.