BurpleBull

From Rochesterfirst.com "Peterman went a perfect seven for seven in his first drive, ending with a 28 yard touchdown to Kelvin Benjamin. Peterman's night ended early in the second quarter. He finished nine for ten with one TD, one INT and 119 yards".

Mike Love making some plays. Would like to see him retained.

Then again, you could be right.

*takes deep breath* Let's go, Peterman!

I didn't hear of it. It would be nice, but unexpected from my end if he managed to stay healthy for the whole season. From the sound of things he has some way to go before he can be entrusted with having the ball thrown to him on a consistent basis. Would be very surprised if he came out the gate a primary WR target.

Nope...not me.

I've always been under the impression that Jerry Hughes could be traded because of this very thing. Everyone's talking Shaq in a trade; what about Hughes?

? Totally Bills' related.

Confusing? More like it's not very enlightening. No variables that affect the success rates of QB's drafted in later rounds vs. non-QB's? Okay. Heck, I think it's best that we don't even begin to define 'success' so that your narrative on 5th rd. QB's holds up.

All I did was point out another off-the-radar player from the same draft class, who I also wanted the Bills' to draft that panned out, despite being selected in the same round that you suggest will definitely place a cap on Peterman's potential as a QB. If I do agree there, it's not without the understanding that there are variables that affect the success rates between QBs and non-QB positions. It's not as cut and dried as you attempt to make it seem. This answers nothing. Doesn't explain how Milano managed to not be defined by his draft status, despite being selected just eight spots ahead of Peterman.

So this is your answer in explaining away Milano's production and Peterman's potential production as a prospect drafted in the same round. While, 'there's a reason he was passed on 190 times' is your way of defining Peterman. There are also less thought of position players that are drafted late, who end up excelling and producing at a higher level than more highly touted position players drafted in much earlier rounds. Such as Chargers' DB, Desmond King (151st overall), who I also hoped would be drafted along with Peterman (171st overall) in 2017. I understand you have your percentages and list of late round QB success rates as support in your stance, but let's not act as though names won't be added to that list of QB's who found success, despite being drafted in later rounds.

Brady is merely used as a QB example of how a prospect can pan out in spite of where drafted, he just so happens to be the ultimate example of that. I also use Matt Milano as a case. Unlike Brady, he is not considered a top player currently, though highly praised. How do you explain his falling to the 163rd selection? What was his reason for being passed on 162 times despite his ability?

Lol. Or an hour...an hour would do some good.

His writing draws you in like a fun novel that you didn't want to read at first.

Yep...Browns' season starting to take shape.

Because Ryan, Roethlisberger, and Rivers, would shred him. Luckily he plays for the Green Bay Packers, otherwise Rodgers might be in the mix too.

The discussion was never about any of the three Bills' QBs long-term potential, the discussion has always been about opening day starter. You never gave a hint that your mention of Peterman's draft selection, being passed on several times, was done solely with other QBs in mind, and I used non-QBs as examples because of that. You suggested that where a player is drafted almost certainly defines him and his potential: "There is a reason that one guy was passed on 190 times in the draft" . So what's the reason Dak Prescott, a Pro-Bowler, was passed on 134 times and a non-Pro-Bowler, but highly thought of second-year player in Matt Milano was passed on 162 times before being drafted?

<..........comment deleted by Moderator .............> Is there even a quote of Coleman saying anything for you to be that excited?

If neither player---one being a second-year player---has made his case for this upcoming season before the entire league, then how would any opinions be changed? Furthermore, how do you figure that you even speak for the entire league? If you're going to apply the very first part of your first sentence fairly, knowing the time it can take for NFL players to shape out given the learning curve, then you know McCarron could be the only QB of the three that the book could be closed on. He's been in the league longer than Peterman, was eight passes shy of tying Peterman's total career reg. season passing attempts (49) in one game, and has thrown three times as many pass attempts as Peterman overall. I'm surprised you would even use where a player was draft as an indictment against them. You had Romo go undrafted, Marques Colston drafted in the 7th rd, Brady and Bulger drafted in the 6th. rd, and a nightmare for Bills' defenders just a few seasons back, Jay Ajayi, fall to the 5th rd. before being selected. Also Peterman was drafted 171st not 191st...ceiling to be determined.

At what point did McCarron become a bad QB for sure? How do you know that Peterman is most certainly a bad QB?

I guess. Either way, I would have a hard time believing that the 'chance of Allen starting over Peterman' percentages haven't decreased on this board somewhat. There are realities that I think people are simply choosing to disregard, because they became so enamored with Allen's powerful arm once finally accepting him.

This a validation of my assumption, isn't it?

Peterman heats up on Monday Nathan Peterman isn’t going down without a fight in the Buffalo Bills’ starting quarterback competition. The second-year signal-caller had, arguably, his best day of training camp here Monday morning, finding receivers in both 11-on-11 and 7-on-7 work. Peterman started the day getting the first crack with the first-team offense. A.J. McCarron had taken the lead-role in three out of the four previous practices, but Monday was Peterman’s shot and he made the most of it. Peterman got the bulk of the work with the ones, McCarron with the twos, and rookie Josh Allen was with the third team. It was the third practice in a row that Allen did not take any reps with the starting offense.

Maybe Lawson finds success being used from the 5-technique, like the Bengals with Justin Smith.

They got Gillislee and Hogan. I guess...