BurpleBull

Lol.

Not so much debated as downplayed. With that acknowledgement, the Panther's defense was still able to come with pressure and Allen wasn't facing the Panther's first-team defense when his number was called either. McCarron had the most time to throw of the three QB's easily. You described McDermott's play as 'terrible' or 'horrible' and that just wasn't the case.

Same line minus the two named players. Where's the confusion?

Thank you! Very! Much! Earlier I made the comparison between Peterman and Fitzpatrick in terms of their decisiveness for that reason. Fitzpatrick made an O-line that consisted of Hairston, Urbik, and Pears look a lot better than it was. Peterman did the same in Thursday's game, negating the Panthers' pass rush with quick completions. But of course this will get overlooked. Thankfully not by the coaches.

Allen played behind the same guys McCarron did minus McDermott at LT and Redmond at C, for the majority of the game; McDermott was solid, Redmond looked better than Bodine did while in with McCarron, and Boettger was part of the second team that blocked for McCarron. The narrative that Allen was running around for his life, unable to display his full potential, just like during his days at Wyoming, because he was playing with 'third team' O-linemen is a false one. He was afforded pass protection also.

Peterman has close to 10' inch hands, so the 'hands too small for cold weather' gripe was off the table.

Oh so weren't genuinely asking me to move on...you rehash the discussion in a "recap". By ''moving on', I meant on from a discussion deviating from the topic of Bills' football. "Bust your balls"? Okay.

Before this veers off course... Moving on.

I didn't say people were flat-out lying. I was already aware of the link you provided and its content before you posted it to me, so I certainly wouldn't accuse the poster of fabricating those numbers, with knowledge of that info, if you're suggesting I was accusing him of fabricating those numbers. So does he favor Peterman or Allen?

Bazooka Josh. It's never too early...Darnold apparently is Slinging Sam.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/3/10/14890754/cleveland-browns-2017-nfl-scouting-combine-qb-velocity http://www.profootballweekly.com/2017/03/13/greg-gabriel-is-a-quarterbacks-velocity-an-indicator-of-how-good-he-will-be-in-the-nfl/a93ef5p/ http://pass2win.com/ball-velocity-exposing-the-power-qb.html

Allen was playing behind the same O-line that McCarron was playing behind for the most part, if I'm not mistaken. .

Loss the ball anyway and it could've resulted in a larger deficit for the team. It wasn't the last play of the game if I remember correctly, that's the type of play you expect to be attempted in desperation if it's your last shot in the game, to extend a drive. You can't trivialize that play because he was known to make those same plays in college...and I'm sure all of those didn't come on 4th-and-2. He hadn't shown that in minicamp, training camp, or for much of the game, but it showed itself eventually. If that is still a part of his game, he has to work it out of his system just as Peterman had to work his flaws out of his.

Without reading the entire post I would guess that you favor Allen and don't favor Peterman very much based on the sheer number of points under Peterman vs. the other two. Apparently Allen's strengths are his only weakness, like some enigmatic superhero out of a comic book. You say anyone giving Peterman a pass on the interception is biased, but the same can be assumed about you as things pertained to Allen last night. I haven't gone out of my way to mention Allen's flaws or any of the QBs, but Allen was far from flawless and it wasn't all related to him having confidence in his arm. You intentionally or unintentionally left out that one play, where he extended the play running around behind the line of scrimmage while being pursued intensely, and instead of killing the play when realizing there was nothing more to be gained, he recklessly flicked the ball, in the direction of the defense and receivers while being taken to the ground, putting the ball up for grabs. This reckless play is what Allen was also criticized for in college. We can't pretend like there aren't mental hurdles that Allen must overcome, if to ever be entrusted by McDermott to carry the offense.

Although all three QBs performed well, Peterman was the one in starting QB form last night. He legitimately appears to be more than backup material.

Furthermore, this is coming from Brady Quinn. Former Browns' QB envy I think.

My issue isn't about your opinions per se, as it is about the bases that forms many of those opinions that you continue to present as fact, despite current evidence not jibing with it. You declaring both QB's "bad", not backups, being an example of this.

I agree...three more games to go.

You in fact, can't believe either Peterman or McCarron can succeed, because you labelled them both "bad" QB's before Thursday's preseason game. Leading you to you declare this: When current evidence begins to do away with your stance on things, I start to question the motivations behind one continuing to speak so definitively against that evidence. It begins to feel like it's all in an effort to save face. That's my point and my issue.

You've already almost certainly been proven wrong in at least one of your claims, I don't know why you and some of these other posters continue to go on in such definitive manner with your claims, as if you haven't already been shown up in your previous positions on where things stand.

I think I'm pretty even-keeled. Unlike a lot of posters who mocked Peterman's potential---through GIFs a lot of times---and labelled him practice squad material beforehand, but are now labelling him surefire, official "trade bait", scaling back their attacks on him, pretending to have seen this potential all along. Three more games to go. Let's go, Peterman!

I would say, you are putting words in my mouth. Just as you are doing with the majority of this forum's members for the sake of commonizing Peterman's performance.

That was your response to this: So please don't try to now sell that Peterman's strengths have always been evident to all.

Explain please. This post reeks of desperation.

Does anything I state below ring true now?