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One thing to keep in mind on this topic is demand. How high is the demand for a QB right now? I know I know, it's a QB driven league, there's never enough QBs and what not, but Josh still hasn't proven himself to the rest of the league yet. Cam Newton, former NFL MVP, wasn't even on a team until 2 days ago. Rather than just say he might be worth some random pick, does anyone have a specific trade with a specific team in mind?

I'm not really sure either way. But if anyone can do it, it's Bellichick and McDaniels. If I had to bet I'd say no though.

I think that for traditional pocket passers, one could make an argument that 30 is the prime of their career. Raw strength (including throwing power) doesn't seem to diminish as quickly as speed does. In addition, one has to consider the cerebral nature of quarterbacking and how much of an impact experience can have on the field. Fwiw, Kelly was 30 in 1990 when the Bills began their run. Granted, Cam isn't considered a traditional pocket passer and he has his injury history. But even some of the athletic quarterbacks can become good pocket passers.

That was my first impression. I could write a better article in my sleep on the exact same position.

"The thing is, public opinion about race hasn’t always been this polarized. In fact, some attitudes about race were entirely unrelated to partisanship before Barack Obama was elected president in 2008. But after he was elected, racial attitudes and party identification became increasingly intertwined to the extent that by 2012, opposition to interracial relationships or overtly negative views of African Americans predicted whether someone identified as Republican for the first time in decades." https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republicans-and-democrats-increasingly-agree-on-the-protests-but-not-why-people-are-protesting/

Fooled me. I thought this was a reference to most of the Bills teams of the last 2 decades lol.

Top-down control. Power. Men behind the curtain. Fewer individual freedoms. Assault on liberty. Things the American Right will never tolerate!!! Yadda yadda ya.

This guy is a microcosm of PPP. I always kind of assumed that PPP was reflective of many of the users of this board. But if this thread is any indication, the batshit crazy alt-right that is PPP is in fact just a very vocal minority. This guy FireChans has gotten demolished in this thread and it gives me a lot of hope seeing the once silent majority giving him hell.

... Some people just don't get it.

Because he said so:

I was literally just thinking that it was in bad taste. I removed it. It has nothing to do with you. It's difficult to communicate explicitly through text. That's not any one person's fault. It's just a fact of textual comms. The clearer I am, the clearer you (as in the general you) will understand me. I think this also applies to your groupthink comment as well, though.

I believe that rampant ignorance is the largest reason people vote No but there are others which might be valid. I do not condone or support groupthink. I believe in freedom of expression within reason. I hope that clears things up. And sorry for the sass...

And in your mind, that means I said all people need to vote one way because otherwise they are just ignorant? That's bad comprehension on your part. Admit it and move on.

Lol. This is a first. Don't put the blame on me just because you added meaning that was never present. If it's not explicitly stated, don't assume it. That's Interwebz 101.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Could it be that even in lieu of ignorance, people with all of the pertinent knowledge at their disposal might still vote no for a host of other reasons? Why yes, it could! We need not reduce positions into such black-and-white logic all the time, you know. Could it be that such a comment is not a reference to there being one right answer (and hence a demand for all Yes votes), but instead a reference to the surprise of the current ratio of Yes votes to No votes? Yes! It could be that, too! Again, the only one making broad brush strokes with the inability to distinguish nuance is the guy who's talking about groupthink.

I didn't proclaim that. If your reading comprehension is this bad, I think you're beyond help. I honestly feel bad for you at this point. You're embarrassing yourself.

No one has said that everyone should vote one way in the entire 7 pages of this thread. Just because you've been trained into reducing opposing viewpoints into some type of Orwellian dystopian belief doesn't mean that's the reality chief.

Oooof. Dude, this entire post is you being on your high horse. You were responding to someone who couldn't believe how many people would be opposed to this action, and your response was to reduce their sentiment to the notion that everyone should think like they do as if it were some sort of top-down mandate to coerce the masses into subjugation, which is exactly what groupthink is a reference to. You're as transparent as you are ignorant. All I did was call out your bs.

Scream buzzwords! Since that's all your mind is capable of anyway.

Because ignorance is rampant in America. It's almost 40 now.

This issue is bigger than the NFL.

A couple more questions if you have a moment, @billsfan1959 and @Sig1Hunter. The author mentions Dave Grossman: One of the most important thought leaders in law enforcement is Col. Dave Grossman, a “killologist” who wrote an essay called “Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs”. Cops are the sheepdogs, bad guys are the wolves, and the citizens are the sheep (!). Col. Grossman makes sure to mention that to a stupid sheep, sheepdogs look more like wolves than sheep, and that’s why they dislike you. This “they hate you for protecting them and only I love you, only I can protect you” tactic is familiar to students of abuse. It’s what abusers do to coerce their victims into isolation, pulling them away from friends and family and ensnaring them in the abuser’s toxic web. Law enforcement does this too, pitting the officer against civilians. “They don’t understand what you do, they don’t respect your sacrifice, they just want to get away with crimes. You’re only safe with us.” I was wondering if either of you have read this essay (https://www.killology.com/sheep-wolves-and-sheepdogs), been exposed to Dave Grossman's work either in print or in person, and what your opinions were of his view on law enforcement. I find many of his views to be extreme, and it troubles me that he contributes to law enforcement theory around the country through his seminars and books. What about you?

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/is-stupider-a-word/#:~:text=Stupider is the comparative form,stupidest or the most stupid.

Thanks. As I said, I was introducing one particular viewpoint here (which I acknowledged is anecdotal) so as to discuss it with you all, because I found the contents deeply disturbing. When you want other people to read your book, you put some juicy quotes on the back cover. It's the same concept as "getting clicks" by focusing on that which stands out. But I'm not trying to get you to click for monetary gain or anything. I'm just trying to get people to read it.

Believe what you want dude. Read the exchange between billsfan1959 and myself if you think I'm being disingenuous.