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So recently I did a post with people comparing Jackson to Taylor so now i am hearing many people comparing Baker Mayfield to Johnny "football" Manziel so here we go.. First and foremost note on Johnny that he just played 2 years while Baker Mayfield played 4. So it shows more consistency in a player. I think this is a huge footnote that he could prove over 4 years of production compared to 2. Knowing this lets just show some factual statistics that show how they are different and work from here. Baker Mayfield CAREER STATS SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT SACK RAT 2017 285 404 4627 70.5 11.45 84 43 6 26 198.9 2016 254 358 3965 71.0 11.08 88 40 8 18 196.4 2015 269 395 3700 68.1 9.37 76 36 7 39 173.3 2013 218 340 2315 64.1 6.81 60 12 9 24 127.7 Notes on Baker Mayfield~ Notice after every year how much better he got. It shows that he can still improve on what he has done.. Steady stats can sometimes show that he has hit his peek. Also notice that his last year he got sacked more often but man.. after digging more i learn that offensive line was beat up bad. 70.5% CMP is prety good One last note that last year he put up strong yards. Johnny Manziel PASSING Stats YEAR CMP ATT CMP YDS AVG TD LNG SAC INT RAT 2012 295 434 68.0 3706 8.5 26 89 21 9 155.3 2013 300 429 69.9 4114 9.6 37 95 19 13 172.9 Notes on Johnny Manziel Again we only have 2 years of Inf + NFL experience to guide us but lets cut out what he did in NFL and stick to what we have in front of us ok? First thought is CMP%.. its not exactly bad but not the best either Next i looked at Average again.. not bad but not great either. Differences between Johnny and Baker For starters Ratings.. Baker Mayfield's ratings much better Then look at INT.. The most Mayfield had was 9 and notice how those numbers went down after every year for Baker and up for Johnny.. In my opinion anyone comparing the two players are either lazy posters, didn't watch game highlights and or full games of each or just doesn't know football. Mayfield is miles ahead of where Manziel was..

FFS, On stereotyping people. If I had a nickel for every person that says "I will quit being a bills fan if" or say they quit and never do.. JUST STOP IT!

Didn't watch much video on him huh? Yea its like a lays potato chip.. cant just have one haha! Interesting question with an easy answer. Randall was a choke in playoff games. Well.. The book is not written yet on Keenum thus cant really answer that really well now can we?

I wonder to.. Fact of matter is.. people can come on here and say "I know Jackson will be better" and to make such statements is stupid.. you don't know football to make statements like that.. I do not Link Tyrod to Lamar nor would I want Tyrod as a mentor. Jackson wishes to be a throw first QB thus you need a throw first QB as mentor. I totally agree with everything said here. I would like to think looking at the numbers that Lamar will be a bit better then Tyrod but we will see.

we are not getting Foles.. Give it a rest

Preach on. agreed Correct.. unless you have this nice globe sparkly thing that tells the future... no one knows. Cause its how you put things out there. and.. this is funny lol

politically correct horse? This isn't the 60's.. Stick to the facts and keep politics and race out of it. I was born in 69 if you must know and you say "Aperson compares both and they are a racist a person qualifies there comparison to state race isn't and issue and I am a racist" When did I ever bring up race other then to slam you for bringing it up in the first place.. Don't blame me for doing what is right.. You can be politically incorrect and yet keep race out of it. and just cause I compare the 2 makes me an racist? I am not a racist and your an idiot. you would be with him cause you were the other idiot that brought up race in these forums.

I stopped reading after the bolded. By the way I never said I hate him cause of a run threat or love him because he has a run threat. I am in the middle on Jackson. I don't think you can sit him for 1 year and play him. I think you either have to sit him 2-3 years then play him or play him right away to work out all the other issues he has.

AGAIN! why bring race into the conversation? I told the last idiot that brought up race.. most good human beings don't give a crap if your black white yellow pick blue purple.. STOP BRINGING RACE INTO THE CONVERSATION! It doesn't belong in these forums. No one here gives a chit about race. get over yourself/it. this is your 11th post? disgraceful! We are here to judge our opinion and talk about talent.. NOT TALK ABOUT RACE... another idiotic post goes down in the books. 1. Because people are worried about another Run first QB that we don't want. 2. Because he is very raw talent. 3. Just because Tyrod was 6th round pick... means NOTHING. its about what you do on the field. 3. you have no clue how he will produce in the NFL just like any other GI Joe here.. We are going with gut feelings and we have our right to it.. Knock it off with the race card..

Orlando, Jackson, Darnold, any TE or Running back

Yep I totally agree.

Its all about how the contract is set out.. everyone thinks you have to pay a person mass amount of $$ the first year.. simply not true. I would take any of those QB's in a heart beat over Taylor every day and twice on Sundays...

IDK my perfect off season is getting Cousins or one of the guys from Mini. and build around him in draft.

Looks like Case is on his way out of MIN. .. IDK if I want to draft or FA now. lol

Keep in mind that I totally agree with the first part of you comment.. BUT. Why are you even bringing up skin color? Why are you choosing this topic to bring race into the conversation? RACIAL comments have no room on these forums.. they really don't. Why even mention race? what point are you trying to prove? you think the majority care if you are white, black, purple, pink, gold, red? You say this has nothing to do with race yet YOU SAID IT! Pretty pathetic if you ask me and I highly suggest you edit your post.. and by the way.. EVERYONE on earth are men/woman of color...... Enough said.

https://youtu.be/YIlqMpKFhds So head over to youtube an watch this video if you have not you should before making final judgement on Lamar. Notes from video. 1. Took him a bit of time to get warmed up but that's normal. 2. Big stride is a good sign. 3. Note with the throw that came short. That is an int all day long in NFL and they note "he does that a few times a game in college" 4. 50-60 yard throw looked effortless. 5. I saw good sideline passes but a little bit high... But not for Benjamin. That is right where you want it for him. 6. Hook throw a little low but low is better then high on that type of pass. 7. 5:00 NICE PASS! WR ran an in and out and he lead him on that pass and WR has plenty of room to run down field. I have not seen Tyrod be able to make those throws with any consistency. 8. Then throws a ball off stride and WR had to wait for it. Accuracy Accuracy and more Accuracy issues.. and he was not under pressure. IDK I think he is a long term prospect and not a short term franchise QB. Watch Rosen and Darnald. They miss a ball and almost laugh at it where Jackson gets kind of a flustered look. I say no to Jackson in first round. Then again.. Jackson Made Rudolph look like crap on short throws. Darnold chose not to throw a ball And I now have just as many mixed feelings on Rosen.. who am i to judge lol

I really like your take on this and agree with your assessment. I more wish Lamar was a second round prospect then a first but answer me this.. If all we have is Taylor, We don't move up and he is best QB Available, do we take him? It is correctable, but that doesn't mean it gets corrected. I think Jackson can be slightly more consistent then Taylor.. Is that worth a draft spot to you or do you want better? Look.. I have to believe in the system. And if in this system they pick one of those 2 then I will fall behind them like it or not cause if I don't believe then what is the point of watching it? Yep I agree with growing your "game" but that doesn't mean it translates into NFL caliber. Light years? I wouldn't say that he has not even taken a snap in the NFL yet.. you cant say that.

Next time you edit quote please just put what I said to you cause you make it look awful... So I want your Crystal ball that this guy has not played a day in the NFL and you know by fact he will be better then Taylor.. You can think he will be better but you cant be blatant about it and that's why I feel Jackson is a 2nd round prospect and Taylor went in 6th.. Key word here though.. Prospect. You still have to out weigh the risk with reward

Oh your welcome, I think this Has come up quite often. Leadership part I agree. Lamar is a great leader in the huddle and as far as possible pocket passer? I think that if you are picking him up in draft hoping for that then your being risky. To be honest with you I like him to but damn. I am not going to be happy till he throws in the NFL lol.. Yep totally agree and this is why I put Vic on my post cause he throws just like him. And yes. he was a good COLLEGE player in one of the worst divisions. On that note I do like him but not in first round. Every QB out of the NFL that is drafted early has same confidence.. Confidence means nothing if you cant put up the numbers. I think he is a risk. TY TY TY. Totally agree but he wont get it lol.. I think your one of the few that feel this. He has an arm with accuracy issues. He played in a weaker conference. But I love your confidence and thanks for replying. Right but he was in a different conference. you guys got to remember this.

Sally? lol give it a rest

Stop being a drama boy please. I have no time for it.

I think you need to read up to op. Original Question is he another Tyrod/Vic or not? he said Vic. I think you need to skip the drama. he only answered my question and the question at hand was concerning ON field. Everyone knows he is not another Vic off the field. please skip the drama.

In another thread I compare Taylor and Jackson... eek

so you know we are talking about on the field not off right?

Fair Observation Miami huh? lol