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  1. 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said:

     

    Actually, we used our own first round pick, the second round pick from the Sammy watkins trade, along with our own, to move up and draft Allen.

     

    We then used the pick we got from the KC trade down, along with our Tyrod pick from the Browns, to trade up and grab Edmunds.

     

    Whoever wrote that analysis is an idiot, and whether you like Allen or not, you cannot look at his selection without also accounting for us getting Edmunds, and cannot ignore White.

     

    We traded our own third for Benjamin last year, and grabbed one back on the Darby trade.

     

    We used the open cap we would have given to Sammy or Darby to sign star, Murphy, and Davis

     

    Basically since Beane took over we gave up:

     

    Tyrod

    Watkins

    Glenn

    Darby

    Dareus

    (Passed on mahomes/Watson)

     

    Added:

    Allen

    Edmunds

    Star

    Tre White

    Murphy

    Vontae Davis

    Benjamin

    Harrison Phillips

     

    (A couple of other random adds and subtracts here and there)

     

    Our team is definitely better overall, and if Allen pans out, it's a grand slam.

    yea thanks for this reply.. I was kind of lazy and didn't want to get into detailed of how wrong or right his post was but yea great reply

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  2. Just now, NewDayBills said:

    You got to factor in that this is a football forum and football forums don't necessarily attract the smartest people. The fans that bother me the most are the ones with the really strong opinions and you can tell that they never watched the player in question play before. They go off of what analysts and experts say instead of watching guys for an hour on YouTube.

     

    I am not going to sit here and judge "doubters" or even "haters" On how much or how little they have spent watching Allen for example. I just hate the whole crystal ball thing ya know?

  3. 1 minute ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:

    I am annoyed with the all Kool-Aid drinkers who feel the Bills FO never fails, even though they had a 17 year playoff drought... 

    Why are you living in the past? Why? The Drought is over.. Those were GM's and Coaches of the past right? Did I ever say that the Bills FO never Fails>? uh no..

     

    your opinion and I get where your coming from but that's not me.

  4. 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    I frequent this board to discuss the Bills. I applaud what I like and question what I don’t. That doesn’t mean that I am right or wrong. It is just my opinion. I’m not going to blindly support something that I don’t agree with. I’m also not going to dump on something because of previous mistakes. I’m not going to wait for something to be good or bad to say, “I told you so” or “these guys are idiots.” At the same time I always support the Bills and hope for the best.

     

    In terms of Allen he wasn’t my first choice. I wanted Rosen. I had no issue with the price paid. It wasn’t an overpay and they got their guy. I will support him and hope that they are right. 

    GREAT POST!

    2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

    Damn straight!!  

     

    We support our team and shouldn't call players LOSERS before they actually have had a chance to prove themselves.  

     

    Preach on :D

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  5. Just now, Billsflyer12 said:

    I am equaled annoyed that if you at all question your teams decisions, you are not a real fan.  Fandom is not blind loyality and shouldn’t be.

     

    I am not huge fan Beene or McD, and I hate the Allen pick.  I vented for a couple of days and explained why I hated it so much.  Yet, I am moving on.  I don’t have the energy or desire to keep fighting something I can’t change.

     

    The Bills have been my team for 45 years.  It never has benn, or will never a be unconditional.  I will not like hires, picks and game plans, and that is ok.  I will voice my concerns when I feel they are really a true concern.

     

    My excitement for the future took a big hit Thursday, but at end of day I will still be watching Sundays from here in Colorado.  Forward we go.

    I have notably said I would rather pick Rosen. But I am not going to come on the boards DAY AFTER DAY whining about the decision. Don't question if I am a fan or not.. that's idiotic. Fans complains about decisions? yes.. But to come on these boards day in and day out and spew garbage is idiocy.

     

    and I can see how you feel your excitement for future took a hit? that's your feelings and I accept that.. I am not talking about people coming on here and discussing a good or bad decision.. I am talking about people making bold face conclusions they or no one else has any clue about.

     

    go bills

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  6. 20 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

    Losers

     

    Buffalo Bills: The Bills traded out of their No. 10 overall pick a year ago, passing on the chance to draft Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson in favor of amassing draft capital. This season, the Bills usedsignificant draft capital to trade up for quarterback Josh Allen (moving from 12th overall to seventh). The kids would call that hustling backward, especially when Allen has an uphill climb just to surpass previous Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor's level of production.

     

     

    Bills fans will point to this being the first draft for GM Brandon Beane, who was hired last May, but that only emphasizes how tricky it is to come up with a cohesive roster when the GM and coach are always in flux. Allen could prove his skeptics wrong, and his athleticism is unquestionable, but Josh Rosen has clearly displayed a more obvious NFL skill set. Allen is reminiscent of a souped-up version of another Bills first-round quarterback: J.P. Losman, a player with accuracy issues who was a star in the pre-draft season because of his measurables. Losman was taken 22nd overall in the 2004 NFL Draft and proceeded to compile a 10-23 record in Buffalo.

    So let me get this right. You took a post.. copied and pasted it of one persons opinion and put this on the boards? Am I supposed to clap my hands and say BRAVO or should I just do this

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-grades-bills-get-an-a-for-josh-allen-after-trade-with-buccaneers/

     

    The joke of your reply is that NFL come feels one player is better then the other when neither have hit the NFL field. that's the joke.

     

    Or should I just base this on the fact that people are all over the place on grades of the draft on bills like this post?

    https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2018/04/27/buffalo-bills-nfl-draft-2018-trades-josh-allen-tremaine-edmunds-grades-round-1/557543002/

     

    GIVE IT A REST!

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  7. So I get it. This was a tough draft for fans. 50% like Allen and the other 50% liked Rosen and you can twist those numbers to your liking.. I don't care that's not the point.

     

    What exactly happened to getting behind your team? Allen is a Buffalo Bill now, Like it or not.. So why not support the decision and hope for the best? What is with these

    people day after day with repeat threads of HATE towards the Bills organization as a whole or the GM? What is with everyone with there crystal balls KNOWING he will be

    an ALL PRO or a BUST? What is with comparing Allen with all our past failed QB's as if they were linked? As if this is the same GM "the same old Bills" making the "same

    old bad mistakes"..

     

    Come on here and complain about the pick after a year or two when we see how good or bad Allen actual is? can we actually just do that?

     

    I have been a Bills fan since my first game I want to back in 1979 and have stayed with them good or bad. I Laughed, gotten mad and even cried over the first SB loss.

    to many people on these boards have forgotten what being a sports fan really means. You back your team up good or bad, you back up the decisions GM and coaches

    makes until they screw it up.

     

    You shout! You Holler! You Swear! You Cry! You Laugh! You Clap! You complain about everything big or small but at the end you support the team!

     

    Go out there and support our team.. Support the Allen pick at least until you 100% Know he is bad.. then come on these boards and be negative.

     

    I support the Buffalo Bills

     

     

    Thank you for the read and I will accept what ever opinion you Have

    because its your right. Just don't forget the execution comes after the judgement :D

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  8. Just now, TPS said:

    Allen is the new Flutie/Johnson. This could take awhile...

    and your a FLAMER. nothing more nothing less. To say what a player is going to be and not even step on the field yet is a JOKE! and to not back up your buffalo bills and who they have on the field is a JOKE!  If he showed at the NFL or even College level that he is another Flutie/Johnson and to even begin to compare him to Doug Flutie is LAUGHABLE and LAZY.

     

     

  9. 1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said:

     

     

    We know it can. It has, many times. Guys like Brady, Brees and Rodgers have talked loud and long about how QB coaching has helped them, and the improvement of their results bears them out.

     

    However, the fact that it can be improved certainly doesn't mean it always works. There are plenty of cases of guys either not improving or not improving enough with coaching. And there are also cases of guys improving and then regressing in game situations. It seems that when a guy has time on the bench to make those changes in mechanics go deep into their habit patterns, into muscle memory, they have a better chance to make it work.

     

    The fact that Allen has improved - an awful lot - is a good sign. Certainly there's no proof that improvement will stick, but plenty of guys simply weren't able to improve. He has. That's good. There's a lot of room for hope.

    And they cant take hope from us can they? Great post

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  10. 7 hours ago, #34fan said:

    ****LONG POST, but worth it, (i think)****

     

    Some of you have gotten riled over my takes on these draft picks... You may think it's a matter of me simply  "not liking" these players, or "favoring" others which is total bullsh_t. I didn't like this draft because I saw a legit chance for this team to grab generational talent... The kids that get you to superbowls. -All OBD had to do, was NOT take the bait!  Justifiably, some of you are asking for an explanation, which I'll gladly provide in a round-by-round format.

     

    Rd. 1

    Josh Allen, 7th overall...Cost #12 #53 and #56 pick

    In a word? -Disastrous (You seriously cant say this for sure because you or no one else knows how he will turn out.)I didn't think any 2018 QB's could help BUF's situation(LAUGHABLE), but I found this pick to be particularly bad. Not a single D1 program thought anything of this kid coming out of H.S.... In fairness, they could have missed something... Happens all the time.. Except no one liked him coming out of JC either! He ended up at WYO, but really wanted to play at Fresno State!

     

    How bad did Allen want to play at Fresno State???

     

    -Josh Allen wanted to play at Fresno State so bad, he wrote them a "pitch" letter throwing shade on a shorter, lighter, competitor. -It didn't work.

    This is a kid, who in his BEST year as a D1 QB (2016) threw 28 TD's, AND led the Mountain West Conference with 15 picks! He's been a sub 60% passer at every playing level. -High School, JC, and College. He NEVER led WYO to a collegiate record better than 8-5! -Really? -Against such vaunted competition as San Jose State, and New Mexico?  Allen didn't throw as many picks (6) his final year, but his production as a passer also decreased dramatically from 3203 passing yards in '16 to 1812 passing yards in '17... I'll concede that sheer arm strength makes Allen an intriguing prospect (You concede him to be a intriguing prospect yet you say choosing him was bad), but ANY other year, and this kid is a mid-late 2nd round pick. However, the manipulative shield would have it's way. -With us, unfortunately.

     

    Tremaine Edmunds, 16th overall... Cost #22 and #65

    A pick I wasn't very fond of... Big guy? -Check. Fast guy? -Check. Tremendous athlete in general? -Check?  Personally, I don't think he diagnoses well enough (at his level)to merit the sacrifice... He frequently bit hard on fakes and mis-directions at the collegiate level... Plays won't get any easier to diagnose in the pros, and there's a chance he'll get exposed a lot... I can definitely see him as a passrusher ... Maybe stand-up 4-3 DE... My concern is that once these flaws are exposed, the coaching staff won't be able to effectively re-purpose his skill set. (You cant find one person outside these boards that agrees with what you are saying here)

     

    What we missed out on.

    We stay put at 12, there's a clear shot at the best DT prospect, I think, since Marcell Dareus. -Da'ron Payne(#13 to WAS)... Even if Beane was just looking at NFL draft grades, he would have seen a significantly higher one for this kid... "Pro-bowl potential" is what I read on his breakdown... But hey,  -f___k what the self-interested league thinks! Let's look at film, and this kid's production in games.-Which is NUTS...  If there's a D-Tackle in CFB with a quicker get-off I sure  haven't seen it! -You won't see a ton of sacks because Payne spent the last two season soaking up the run, and drawing double teams at NT so other guys could finish...  He simply couldn't be single-blocked at the collegiate level... Harrison Phillips is a VERY good player, but Payne is just a phenomenon for an interior DL. 

     

    Had we we stayed put at 22, Stud Tackle Isaiah Wynn (#23 to NE) was waiting along with WR DJ Moore (#24 to CAR)  -Either pick helps this team win games from day one!  Wynn is an absolute mauler who finished a fabulous season (including the Senior Bowl) with a torn Labrum! This kid is going to keep your QB dry for YEARS, plus build a standard the rest of the line will have to follow! -BUF's O-line is in tatters after the departure of Wood, Glenn and Incognito...  However, If Wynn's injury scared you off, DJ Moore, had a skill set coveted by many NFL teams... Elite speed in pads, elusiveness, YAC for days... and reliable hands that consistently make difficult catches... In three years, this kid had 8 different QB's throwing to him including 3 true freshmen, and STILL was big-ten receiver of the year in 2017.  Who DOESN'T want that on their team?   -Brandon Beane. That's who. :(

     

    Now flame your little hearts away. (In short who did you expect to throw the ball this year? your crystal ball tells you Allen will be bad but who we have will be good?)

    So I bolded areas to talk about in your post and put my responses next to bolded in ()

     

    I also looked deep back at your replies and polls and found some interesting things.  In this post you say you didn't want a QB right? but in the past you once said

     

    "I would like to go with Rosen or Darnold but no one else"

     

    and

     

    " am willing to trade to #2 if its Darnold "

     

    and so on.

     

    how all of the sudden after the draft and we obviously didn't pick your "guy" you say you would not of picked a QB this draft

     

    sorry this whole thing is laughable and you make a statement at the  end "Now flame your little hearts away."

     

    Its how you say things... instead of saying you know he will be a bust you should say you think he will be a bust, Instead of saying "look I know many will agree and disagree but these are my thoughts" you say "Flame your little hearts away."

     

    You invite trouble to your non stop one negative thread and response after another and sit back and laugh at the replies.. Only flamer here is you sir.

  11. 1 hour ago, MJS said:

    I'd put it like this:

     

    S

    RB

    DT

    CB

    TE

    WR

    OT

    G/C

    OLB (Big ? outside of Milano)

     

    Unknown:

    QB (No clue how McCarron or Allen will do)

    MLB (No clue how Edmunds will do)

     

    And this is the right way of doing it guys. Take notes... You cant put QB and MLB on this list and assume they will be bad or good.. you no what happens when you all start assuming right?

     

    Solid reply

  12. 2 hours ago, KzooMike said:

    After seeing how little we added to the offense, unless we add some major production prior to start of the year we are poised to have one of the most talent depleted offenses in football. If you asked me my preference between AJ and Tyrod I would say AJ, but that's only if he has play makers around him. Tyrod can't take advantage of play makers as much AJ can, but the reality is, we have nobody outside of McCoy. AJ holds the ball like Taylor, high sack rates, little mobility, much more turnover prone. What Tyrod can do is generate yards on his own. He helped mask the offensive line issues. He didn't commit turnovers. I'm certainly not arguing at all that an upgrade was required over Taylor. I just just think with this current roster Taylor would have given us a better chance to win games.    

    get

    over

    it

  13. 3 minutes ago, Agent 91 said:

    nice chat

    Your anger towards Josh Allen is so high that your blinded by non truths and facts that make no sense.

     

    so there is no point in even talking to you about it.

     

    so yea

    just lol

     

    And now he is making a nice long reply of reasonable facts that he is cherry picking from stats board to make Allen look bad

    to continue to argue..

    keep making that long post lol

  14. 1 hour ago, Agent 91 said:

    Probably threw far fewer times too. We know they aren't in the same atmosphere as far as product. And name an NFL defense who will allow qb to be successful throwing 50 yes off his back foot. Didnt know that's how Brady Mannings Montana Young Elway all had their incredible successes. Climb the damn pocket.

     

    For the record Allen 21 ints in 3 years

    Rosen 26 ints in 3 yrs 

     

    Rosen 1169 attempts

    Allen 649 attempts

    why are you comparing attempts? one played for a year longer then other.

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