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Yeah, there are mysteriously men in black suits and ref hats that can run onto the field and tell the refs which rules they can bend to keep it a game.

Shenault has smoothness and suddenness that allows him to win on the basic route tree paired with the unbelievable strength and home-run ability as a runner — he doesn't need to be snapping off post-corner-posts all day. Just hit him in stride — something that never happened in Colorado — and he's fully unlocked. ^^^ this...in today's NFL, especially with all the amazing combos and creativity of these coaches, you don't need the Stevie Johnson type routes from your big guys. That's why you have Cole Beasley.

DK and Deebo last year had very limited route trees. DK had questions about his catching ability as well. The long story short of this: The NFL has coaching that these players don't get in college. All of your banter has that talks about him being all over the field as if it's a bad thing is sooo odd to me. Did you watch the Bills this year? This is how we run our offense. We use receivers in different ways. So do the Chiefs (MeCole Hardman also had a "limited tree") with Hill. Saints use Taysom Hill, 49ers use Samuel and the list goes on. This is the new NFL and I'm having a hard time figuring out why it's a weird thing that his coaches at Colorado tried getting the ball in their best players hands whenever possible. He also had a very poor QB with no other talent around him. He was the team. This, along with his production, along with him lining up all over the field... are ALL good things. I don't love this guy but some of your reasoning as to why you don't like him are just weird to me. You want Higgins that played about awful competition and had a top 3 QB in the country? I mean...... Or Jeudy or Ruggs that had the benefit of playing with each other? Shanault had no one the other team had to worry about.

The only "good" thing is that he only played ~50% of defensive snaps. We relied on the nickel a ton this year. I think he will absolutely be missed on 3rd downs and special teams. McDermott will find someone more athletic to utilize in similar situations. Toward the end of the year we saw Tremaine take some of that "at the line" blitzing as well where he would "show and go." Maybe they see Milano moving into that role (just on 3rd downs. He is NOT only playing 50% of the snaps next year) and Joseph being the 1st and second down Milano? Who knows. It'll be interesting to see that.

Ask the Falcons who pay their WR 22 Mill. and the cowboys that didn't make the play offs with this guy. We need to keep our core in place and it's going to be very expensive in 2-3 years bubba. He would be more cap hit that Smoke, Beas, Singletary and Knox combined (or at least in that area). Not to mention, we have a solid WR draft coming up.

I just don't see Beane shelling out that kind of money for WR (nor do I want him to)

I actually thought the entire game that SF and Buffalo have VERY similar offensive play calls and designs.

I remember Budweiser and Doritos ALWAYS killing it for the commercials.. I miss those days. These weren't that good this year.

I think if that if the draft DID pan out like this in Rd 1. I'd rather trade up ahead of the Eagles and K'lavon and then a WR in the second.

Not even close...... literally, Titans have awesome WR's and they have Dion Lewis that Brady LOVED throwing to. AJ Brown, Jonnu Smith, Delanie Walker, Dion Lewis, Tajae Sharp, Corey Davis, Adam Humphries, (there's one more i'm missing that played well in the playoffs). They have plenty of weapons, just no QB to get them the ball.

Sam Gash. I kid, I kid..... I never liked Ryan Denney or Chris Kelsay. Wildly overrated and while i'm not sure that's a reason to dislike them..... it just is what it is.

I don't like him.

I think this is yet to be seen, right? I think we'll know more when it's time to pay JA, Edumunds, Tre, Milano, Shaq, Phillips, etc. It'll be interesting for sure. Yeah I tend to agree. I think he had a pretty good year, I'd love to see if he can continue that.

So you sign Spain for 6-7 a year or this guy for 10-12? I think Thuney next to Dawson and Morse would be unbelievable. I'm sure there are internal debates going on about this. If we can get Spain at 5-6/ yr over 3 years, I think you'd have to do that.

Jimmy G threw less than 20 passes in the last 2 play off games and the top 5 passers this year did not make the playoffs and the top 5 rushing attacks did make the playoffs, I don't know that the league prioritizes passing. In today's NFL, you need to be able to stop the run to win and JP is definitely a liability in the run. This is why I think Shaq is pretty valuable, he was a pretty good run defender this year.

Yeah, did you ever notices he "loses his footing" a lot? It's definitely frustrating and I would not pay him above 6-7 annually. Unless its a 1 year 8-8.5 million dollar prove it deal.

............ did you watch any football? do you like the Bills? Do you know what assignments are on every play? Did you watch Shaq Lawson play the run? Did you watch Jordan Phillips play the run? Believe it or not, there is more to football than stat sheets and sacks. Star actually had a pretty solid second half of the year. Shaq Lawson played the run VERY well and had a few sacks but played a lot less than Murphy/ Hughes. If our Dline is as bad as you think it is and you still want to resign our worst run defender, I have to question your logic. And then ask the question.... how did we win 10 games if our dline was so bad?

Jeremy and his wife are also really close with a family that lost an 11 year old boy last week to the flu last week. My heart is absolutely crushed for this guy.

Wait! Why not Mahones, Wentz, D. Jones, Mayfield, Hodges?

Wilson did not make Marshawn or Golden Tate or Zach Miller great. marshawn was always very good. Golden Tate left Seattle and has been great, still. Zach Miller went to Seattle after being a second round draft pick. Yeah, that was the a very easy and stretched out talent pool lol

Mahomes, Wentz, Carr, Goff, Mayfield? Maybe switch Wentz and Carr. You gave a top 5 QB, a few middling ones and a horrible QB, that's not really a test?

Didn't say that... It doesn't hurt to be surrounded by talent, though. So you think JA is a bottom 7 QB in the NFL because of Passer Rating? is that what i'm gathering?

Now can we compare supporting casts?

That's short sighted. You HAD to play the run against Seattle, you didn't have to against this team. It was a MAJOR focus of that Seattle team which opened up the passing game. Defenses played that team way different than they would this Bills team. Again, it's all in fun speculation. Again, we'll never know but I don't think many QBs did more with less than Josh this year.

Thank you, that's all this thread was trying to suggest.