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Thanks DrD. If we were taking about a virus with a 10% or even a 1% death rate, I’d agree. I believe the efficient way would be to vaccinate those who are too weak/susceptible to the virus and allow for the “stronger” / less susceptible to have their anti-bodies count. I believe this is the correct method to attain true herd immunity. Vaccines are not cure-all’s. Without starting a food fight over terminology Flu shots or other vaccines addressing similar viruses are not 100% either. The fact that the new guidance is prepping us for “booster” shots or continued mask mandates even with vaccinations proves the point.

I find it funny that many can state this fact (<30% vaccination) and still think they hold the majority opinion on the matter. 🤷‍♂️ That said, It’s the NFLs product and I’m sure their insurance had a LOT to do with the decision. Going to a football game (vs going to work) is a completely voluntary event. If you don’t want to meet their standards, you don’t have to go. There are many other mediums to get NFL action. This shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone.

You forgot to include those with actual anti-bodies. Much more effective than vaccines in 100% of instances. While you can’t directly add the number of infected to the number vaccinated as there will be considerable overlap, you can at a minimum count all positive cases over the last year as having anti-bodies. Vaccines are a substitute for those who don’t. We’re closer to the 70% than you realize. This is a good thing But no one makes money off anti-bodies, so I fully expect them to not be taken into consideration.

So at this point, Team Watson has admitted to: - Using AT LEAST 40 different MTs (more on that) - Shopping for MTs on IG - Flying some in from out of state - And now having consensual sex with some. Let’s dig into that last one: - We know 24(?) different MTs claim he made unwanted advances. - He introduced another 20 who he didn’t make sexual advances towards (He was very professional they claim) - Now admits to having consensual sex with yet ANOTHER pool of MTs (so not the ones he intro’d and not the ones suing) His only contention at this time, is that he does make sexual advances towards his MTs but they all wanted it. The frat boy / jock excuse is pretty lame. I particularly love the part when his lawyer says (paraphrasing) “ He didn’t use his fame/stardom/money to influence or coerce them”. Bro there’s No Way these ladies didn’t know who you are, and there’s no way you didn’t think who you were entitled you to do whatever it was you actually did.

I'll tell you though, the situation where the SI journalist reached out to a random masseuse and she had her own story very similar to the ones portrayed in the media did more to color my opinion than the (12, 14, 20, 22!) allegations.

Wow deleting my legit and respectful opinion/response while keeping your personal attack up is very cool bro.

Anyone reading your posts in this thread can easily ID the position you've staked out in this conversation. You think it's foolish not to "get the jab". Can you show me a post where you urge caution because this is still an experimental vaccine with unknown long/medium term health effects? That it is just as reasonable to "wait and see" as it is to "get the jab" without understanding the health implications. Because I can point to multiple posts where you deride anyone who holds that POV. Just saying. Both sides of this debate can be respected, even if you disagree.

You keep conflating safe vaccines with experimental vaccines as if they are equal. Never in those 200 years did anyone mandate an unproven vaccine whose long term effects on humans have not been determined. It takes YEARS for a vaccine to be vetted. Not 9 months. Saying that proven and vetted vaccines are good/safe so therefore ALL vaccines are good/safe is like saying "I didn't assault these massage therapists, so therefore I didn't assault ANY therapists". Unfortunately, it seems these days both sides have their "facts" and they use them to shut down any constructive debate.

Completely agree with all here. Some opinions are treated differently than others.

Yeah but is he going to get the vaccine?

Most normal people: Yup. You’re both jerks.

The fact that there are sides categorizes it as a political issue and not a health issue. Hence the explicit main board ban. Constitution...controversial??

50!!

I dunno man. I tend to value women more than dogs.

I completely agree about the need to face your accuser(s). It’s one of the invaluable benefits of our system of laws and justice. My comment is more along the lines of what was said, in the context of this case. Once they get a name, they’ll be able to aim a world class marketing machine at the individual to win in the court of public opinion. Think about all the people and companies who have invested in the Watson persona. All the endorsements, the agent, the NFL, the Texans, friends of Watson ( in and out of the locker room), Social Justice/Community Investment outreach programs he supports, etc. all have a vested interest in the Watson brand surviving this situation. And all they have to do it convince a certain percentage that the accuser is a less than stellar / upstanding / squeaky clean person. The gleeful tone of the tweet just made my skin crawl is all. And again, this is why women usually don’t step forward.

Am I the only one who took this as, “Now that we know who she is, we can drag her name through the dirt”

Wait maybe he’s claiming those original 21 accusers are imposters and these are the REAL therapists.

Oh man I love this team!

Tough to prove a negative, but showing that Watson has utilized the services of ANOTHER 20 therapists doesn’t make his case sound better IMO. Such a strange defense strategy. Yeah those women said I did something to them, but these over here said I didn’t with them, therefore those others must be lying?

Cool cool cool. Do you feel the same about the other side of the spectrum? Seems to be a lot more “woke” pushing than “religion” pushing these days.

And people wonder why most victims don’t say anything.

Well he DID play college in Carolina...

I know most have a very negative opinion on investing in the RB position, but IMO, the running game is having a bit of a resurgence. As D's get lighter and faster to stop the pass, they grow more susceptible to the run. I'm sure it's just me, but I think there is a lot more value in having a legit weapon at RB than some of the other positions discussed here. For those who want to focus on D (legitimately), having a stud RB who can be relied on to keep drives going, will shorten the games and keep the D more fresh. As mentioned many times, our D was MUCH improved down the stretch, so with better ToP, the D could possibly improve significantly over last year and get back to 2019 form when we had a better ground game. Additionally, I think RBs have much more impact on the O than TEs and WRs. On every play, the RB has an important role. Obviously a rushing play is their main contribution, but on pass plays, he's blocking, taking a play action fake to hold safeties/LBs, running a route or blocking for the QB. I contend that the RB is second only to the QB on % of plays with a critical role. Looking at how the 2021 Bills are currently staffed, Bean has done a great job creating a solid roster from top to bottom. IMO there is no position that can significantly improve this team more than a game changing rookie RB.

Again RAMPANT speculation, but it’s possible they approached him insisting he took responsibility for his actions. He rebuffs them in a dismissive “WHO TF are you? You’re a nobody and I’m a somebody” “I can do whatever I want” “You can’t touch me” *insert arrogant ahole insult* Victim won’t tolerate the disrespect, changes motive from compensation to justice. Just an example off the top of my head and is not based on any facts or knowledge.