Stank_Nasty

uh no. that would be no luck, or unlucky like the title of the thread. not necessarily bad luck. the takeaway is it doesnt seem a lot of "lucky" bounces in those catergories go the bills way. i dunno where all the contention is here. it seems pretty cut and dry.

having the opponent drop a pass or miss a fg is fairly lucky. thats what the graph categories are. its not how many we've dropped or missed ourselves.

i'm definitely not part of the cult that died on the "pressures" hill for jerry. and now i'm even more irritated with his new found ability to get home after losing it here for 4 years... that being said, i believe pressures up the middle are more valuable than pressures elsewhere, so i've been pretty pleased with EO lately.

Yup..... this feels about right.

well i personally believe they're more valuable from the inside rather than the DE never getting home.

i wont debate our design sucks but the vikings having worse personnel than ours? seriously? Jefferson, Theilen, Hock is about as talented and reliable trio you can ask for.

Saw a tweet from next gen stas that Oliver has the most pressures league wide over the last 3 weeks. solid.

no.... not until somebody gets a packed ice marble right to the ear and there's actual tears.

So it looks like we finally have a graph that takes into account the QUALITY of the players being lost. And it confirms what anyone with a half a brain already knew…. But then there was @FilthyBeast

Defense played admirably that day. i think maybe that early in the season, frazier and mcdermott still had a scheming upperhand. But now The warts are on plenty of tape for everyone to see and we havnt had the talent out there to cover it up.

ya man. i'm with you. these arent just role players going down. Its been players directly responsible for the winning thats been done the last 3 years. We're talking about MULTIPLE all pro players. its huge, man.

Thank you.... the troubling thing is, you had to waste your time typing this all out because people are having a really hard time grasping the difference between cumulative injuries vs quality of players injured.

ten times the issue that Davis is....

the efficiency is an issue, sure.... but honestly run down through the teams in your head and toss out the names you'd take over him. I'm curious how long the list is. i already gave mine upstream

Exactly. It seems what everyone is really saying in here is that they expect us to have two #1's.... well get in line then. theres about 31 nfl teams, other than miami, that would like to sign up for that. My main point is look at the landscape of the league and the other #2 options. Ours would be towards the top of most lists.

I seriously wanna know where all these mythical amazing #2 wr's are. If feels like people just think they're all over the NFL. I'm bored so i went down through the divisions in my head and named out the 2's i would definitively take over davis. Waddle Higgins Mike Williams Devonta Smith Godwin Lockett I'd debate Thielen(he's really fallen off but reliable), Aiyuk, and Marquise brown..... but i'm confused about what people requirements are for a #2(non-slot) wr.... seems like were just assuming most teams are having teammates each go for over 1000.... Take a look across the league. i would contend he's a top #2 option(with consistency issues)

there are 64 starting wr's in the nfl. Davis has missed a game and is still right in the top 20 for yards. The bills have 2 players on pace for over 1000 this year. there are 2 other teams that can say that(mia/kc). Davis has his flaws and consistency issues but i'm seriously wondering if any of understand who most other teams are trotting out as their #2. its not like 80% of the teams in the league are tossing it around to multiple 1000 wr's. drops are 100% an issue. and in critical spots..... but i'm just curious as to how many #2's out there people think are honestly that much better.

The bills directly lost this game due to bad football so IMO you literally couldnt be further from the truth here.

1986 was the last time a defensive score took the lead inside 1 min left. Nearly 40 freaking years… Glad to be part of yet another anomalous loss. Throw it up on the list with the others of the last couple of years. 🙄

they also needed a last second FG to beat andy frickin dalton, beat bridgewater by a score, needed to comeback from 10 down in the 4th on the vaunted hieneke led offense last week after heineke completely melted down.... they've faced ONE squad with a winning record that actually fielded their starting qb(eagles) and they got their teeth kicked in. The game is plenty winnable with keenum. literally every other game the vikings have stumbled through as shown that. .... oh then theres barely scrapping by the bears earlier in the season while fields still looked like a steaming pile of donkey sh** this vikings squad reminds me of the 2020 stillers that had the luxury of playing 5 or 6 backups on their way to being 11-0 and then completely folded down the stretch when the 4 leaf clovers ran out.

wtf didnt milano practice in full yesterday?

The vikings have had the luxury of playing 3 other backup qb's this year and nothing about their wins have been easy... .... this thread is much more your speed though. i knew your true nature would come back to us eventually.

you have a hard time differentiating facts from excuses i suppose.... yikes.

need a last second FG to beat andy dalton, beat heineke by a FG after being in a 17-7 hole to start the 4th, Barely beat a bears team that was playing like complete dog crap at the start of the season... they're literally stumble f***ing their way to all these wins against subpar teams and backup qb's. they've played ONE team with a winning record that actually had their starting qb playing(Philly), and they got their teeth kicked in. I'm not saying we definitely win with Keenum or anything, but this is a very winnable game. Even with our backup qb.