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8 minutes ago, jwhit34 said:
If Phillips is healthy, they still have Oliver, Butler, Phillips and Jefferson to rotate on inside. That should be very good. If all perform as expected it may be Star Who(?). Or if Oliver has a breakout year, A Star is Born.
...and then we get to welcome Star and his trash contract back the next year....
I actually love that 4 man rotation, but Star moving his contract down the road a year is frustrating.
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I love how i'm listening to WGR on the Radio.com app at work and Schopp/Bulldog, as of 3:15, haven't even mentioned Star optiing-out. They've talked about the Patriots opt-outs, and a bunch of Marlins baseball discussion along with a whole bunch of random nonsense... but the one Bills player who opted-out, to lead the show...nothing.
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6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Agreed. 10 weeks is about the maximum you can keep people away from their kids in bubbles. A 17 week season? Too long.
Surely they can run tests on family members for a series of days (kind of like they're doing right now for players reporting to camp) so that they can come visit the bubble, no?
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3 minutes ago, Bigvinny said:
Or them getting Trevor Lawrence next year because their guys opted out and they use it as an excuse to tank. The next Pat's loophole.
They're not tanking with Cam Newton. Maybe he's done and they end up rolling with Stidham anyway, but I highly doubt they'll be bad enough to be in contention to get Trevor.
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3 minutes ago, NewEra said:
It’s one comment in one thread on one bills message board. Stop thinking it’s more than it is.
yes. I hope there’s a season. I’m praying that they can somehow make this happen. Seeing that the Marlins now have 18 positive tests (among other things), in a non contact sport makes me think that this is very unlikely to work.
sorry I’m not as positive as you and others. Use the ignore function if I’m draining your soul
How about instead of randomly posting in threads that you don't think there will be a season, you just say one of those prayers, silently.
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1 minute ago, GG said:
This actually sucks, because it makes it tougher to move him next year, which was the likely plan.
I mean Star has to do what he feels is right, but the effect on our cap management is certainly frustrating.
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1 minute ago, NewEra said:
It’s unlikely to matter when the season is cancelled.
Obligatory "that guy" post
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Just now, matter2003 said:
I highly highly doubt anywhere close to the degree that happens with COVID. The flu is very specific in terms of what it effects, COVID is basically like an all out assault on your entire body and every system in it.
You seem to know a lot about a virus that most medical professionals are still trying to figure out....
Do you think your description is a bit dramatic?.... If that's your view of COVID, I imagine if I ask you to describe Ebola, you'd just scream-type hieroglyphics.
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4 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
If by relatively harmless you mean accepting potential permanent heart damage in a fairly good portion of people that have gotten it( a recent small study of 100 people showed 78 now have heart damage that showed up on an MRI) along with a whole host of other potential chronic conditions like neurological, blood clots, blood pressure issues, lung damage, kidney damage, liver damage, etc. then yes its relatively harmless in terms of IMMEDIATE DEATH.
So what we need to be having is not an IMMEDIATE DEATH discussion, we need to be having a long-term quality of life discussion. How many people are going to have significant impacts to their quality of life over the next 30 years? How many are going to have a much shorter life expectancy due to this? What is the death total going to look at a year from now, 5 years from now, 10 years from now due to conditions that started due to this or that this worsened significantly over time from this?
Permanent heart damage in a significant portion of people is a pretty damn serious thing, even if they are alive right now, how many will die from this in the next year, 5 years, 10 years, etc...how many deaths from other things will this have contributed to?
I am sure larger studies with more people and wider age groups will probably show less people affected by heart damage but it is still going to at least be 20% or higher most likely. You up for a 1 in 5 shot or higher of permanent heart damage?
And again. If you want to focus on the beginning where NY got hit extremely hard, realistically through no fault of their own other than lots of people from Italy coming through their airports and ignore the way we have controlled it then do whatever you need to do. The problem you are having is that you haven't accepted that life will NEVER go back to the way it was ever again and the more you try to force it go back the longer it is going to take for this to get under control. We have in large part accepted that here because of what we went through. We know life has fundamentally changed and we are learning how to thrive in the "new normal". I suggest you stop fighting it and start accepting it. You ultimately don't have any other choice.
Your litany of hypotheticals aside, you do realize that people have complications and long lasting side effects from seasonal flu as well, correct?
I'm not comparing this to the flu, because clearly it's way more contagious, but people need to stop acting like that is COVID-specific.
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35 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
You can eyeroll all you want. There is no way if you look at the graph I posted above that you keep levels that low and flat for 2 months without doing something right. In fact just the other day we had the lowest new case counts, hospitalizations and deaths in New York State since mid March.
It all comes down to how much buy in the people here have towards doing things right and stricter guidelines...there are some things like gyms that still aren't reopened here in NY...malls still aren't open, etc..
We also opened in controlled phases divided into regions where each region had to meet 7 key metrics at each phase for 2 straight weeks before going to the next phase.
I just don't think Cali had the buy in from the people nor the stricter phased guidelines, so like the other states some places were stricter and some were looser. Are gyms open there? Bars? Malls?
And you people in other places eyerolling are the reason we can't go to Canada still. Get your ***** together.
I don't think keeping things closed indefinitely is an acceptable response to a virus that is relatively harmless to the vast, vast majority of people.
I do believe in wearing masks (and everywhere I go in hot-spot Atlanta, believe it or not, people are wearing masks). I do believe in social distancing. I even believed in the limited lock down.
That said, eventually you need to re-open, and when you do, this will likely reappear in NYC.
America has a ton of densely populated cities and when you re-open densely populated areas with no vaccine, COVID spikes. Masks help. Distancing helps. But the spikes will occur.
We don't all subscribe to praising a state that is responsible for a majority of COVID death in this country, while bragging about it's current low case counts as it's businesses and restaurants go under.
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7 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
It is just amazing to me how these schools come up with these elaborate plans but either willfully turn a blind eye to or don't really understand how many points of failure there are for them. Everywhere you look there are points of failure in their plans...especially with school buses being a small enclosed place with poor ventilation and close proximity with lots of people that makes social distancing impossible.
Then factor in how many kids are actually going to follow these rules and how many times a day the rules are going to be broken or forgot about, etc...it only takes 1 time for it to spread. In addition kids 10 years and older have been found to spread it at the same rate as adults do, so anyone in 4th grade and above basically needs to take the utmost precautions and most of these kids at that age are not going to care or understand the seriousness. Plenty of them will probably try and "be cool" by not following the rules, etc...
It's going to be an epic disaster and one I am not putting my kids through...they are staying home until there is no risk to them going back, if that means until they graduate highschool then so be it.
Yeah, that isn't even close to the truth but it's amazing what people ignorantly will believe in spite of the facts presented to them. We controlled it here by strict adherence to guidelines set forth and no crying over wearing a mask in public. Antibodies at BEST last 2-3 months and are only present in a very small number of people so that point is pretty much false and/or irrelevant.
Is there an eyeroll reaction we can use for those that keep repping NY's response to COVID?
I mean, congrats, NY hasn't yet reached to the re-opening levels in NYC of places that are seeing spikes, so I guess we'll see how this plays out if they ever do.
That being said, how do you explain Cali? They've mimicked NY's response with a far different outcome so far.
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NFL definitely needs to bubble teams, and it's much more feasible than in MLB because the team can just stay on top of it during the week and they only travel once per week / play one team per week.
Also, what protocols are even in place for baseball players/coaches/staff, specifically when they leave the facilities? I don't even know... I do know what the NFL has put in place.
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1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:
Not surprising. I cannot see how pro sports can be played fairly right now. Teams that lose players from infection will be at significant competitive disadvantage.
Whats crazy (but understandable) is that most players will get sicker from the flu and just load up on meds and play. However, most who get COVID will likely have mild symptoms and get sidelined for two weeks. Again, understandable, but that’s where we’re at.
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
No, I mean the type of people that will grasp at any alternative to reality based on strictly partisan lines. The types of people that never gave two ****s about suicide using it as a weapon to try to strawman their way through an argument.
As opposed to those who only seem to care about COVID deaths while downplaying the tremendous side effects resulting from the lockdowns.... job loss, business closures, Suicide, drug overdose, domestic abuse, children falling behind in school etc etc etc.How come 90% of the COVID concern folks I encounter don’t seem to give a **** about any of that. I know why... because it’s a distraction from what they want to focus on.
COVID isn’t a hoax. It should be taken seriously. We should wear masks and socially distance. A limited lockdown was warranted. .....but we’re into some bs now and the self righteous are beyond transparent at this point.
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
Good luck with your campaign. I think you'll find it a difficult one.
That poster makes a valid counter-argument in my eyes.... not as a direct comparison to COVID, which has no vaccine, but to shine the light on the hypocrisy (or lack of realism) among the crowd that shouts down those who want to re-open schools as not caring about children.
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3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
A lot more players and staff though. If one person gets it, it could easily spread really fast through a lockerroom/ team.
I mean, it is what it is, Marlins are decimated in a pretty bad way right now. It’s all proportionate.
However, with MLB, not only are they decimated but we now have 4 teams affected by postponed games and the Phillies potentially exposed.
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2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:
The protests were according to research only responsible for a small part of the surge. Opening up too much for Memorial day and then July 4th was responsible.
Places like Texas opening up bars were much more responsible for the surge than protests. I too questioned the likelihood of protests leading to cases and due to almost all of these protests taking place outdoors and high mask usage it appears they weren't too bad at spreading the illness.
Cool - So let's allow fans at sporting events in limited capacity. Outside, wear masks - no problem.
I am all for the protests, but it's absolutely hilarious when people try to convince others they didn't play much of a part in the spiking cases we saw after that. Population density seems to be driving this, and people crowded together in the streets - masks/no masks - is pretty dense.
Also, bars are a problem for sure... but if we want to blame red state Texas, what's California's issue?
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Makes sense to me.. I think a lot of us are expecting him to make the jump to Tier 2 this year.
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22 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:
Who won't have the conversation? To me it seems like there is a substantial contingent that won't allow for any conversation other than send the kids back to school.
A great example of that is a certain contingent that misrepresents the opinion of the American Academy of Peds to make it fit their political agenda.
I consider myself to be a centrist on most things, but lately, there's only one side of the political aisle that I never seem able to have a rational discussion with, and it's not those on the right side of the aisle.
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8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
And trust me, I get it. I used to do the same thing with EJ, JP, and Trent. I’ve tried taking a more realistic view of the situation after that. It’s just weird that people become so angry when you dare go against Allen.
what I’ve always said is that I worry he has never really consistently taken over a game. He’s had flashes but even all the way back to college, he’s never been flat out dominant and think pretty much every good qb has those games. I think a lot of the Allen hope is being a fan and projection.
but this is a good thing. And I definitely probably serves a confidence boost. And one thing I will never question is Allen work ethic and heart. I hope he become a passer that some of you think he can. I’m dubious.
fair enough
I think the Dallas game, he was pretty close to dominant.. but then we jumped out to a huge lead and with our defense and coaching philosophy, basically ran the clock out.
First half Texans he showed dominance before the team fell apart, ultimately culminating with him doing the same.
I'd agree that there's another step he needs to take, and being a dominating force for a full game is part of that, but he does seem to have it in him - he just needs to unlock it. Let's hope Year 3 is where he finds that key.
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24 minutes ago, MJS said:
Seems to follow major population centers to me. Areas that are less densely populated are less affected.
Bingo. I live in the South. The rural areas are filled with people who refuse to wear masks and just act as if nothing is going on. Can't really blame them too much though, because in the rural areas, this isn't really an issue.
I live in Atlanta. Everywhere I go in, and around, the city... People are, in fact, wearing masks. Everywhere I go, and where I live, are where the hot spots leading to the massive surge of cases have been in Georgia.
People just have talking points and stick with them. I do believe in wearing masks, but if we're being real.. this has more to do with population density than it does mask philosophy.
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21 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said:
Maybe its time to get, you know, priorities in order and shut down sports altogether and get this damn virus under control. And we can, you know, come together as 1 and fight this so we can all resume normalcy sooner. Putting band aids on this will not slow the spread at all.
I disagree. We need to all be responsible - wear masks, socially distance etc., but locking down is the definition of a band-aid. And that band-aid comes with a ton of side effects like job loss, business failure, suicide, drug abuse, psychological harm and educational impact to children etc.. I'm not saying act as if all is well, but this virus isn't going away... We simply have to learn how to live with it.
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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
No one is "past" it, you are correct. But plenty of other countries at least seem to have handle on it to where they can start safely, slowly re-opening... while STILL following proper protocols and wearing masks.
Unfortunately it seems like all they've done is just delay re-opening and be more restrictive of their population than places in America have. Now that they're re-opening more, they are seeing dramatic increases again.
Then you also have more authoritarian governments, like those in SE Asia, that just bring Thor's hammer down on it's citizens anytime a potential outbreak looks like it might be occurring.
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2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
No. Is it bad? Sports league wise, they seem to be doing much better.
Countries like France, UK, Spain etc., are seeing dramatic increases in cases again. We are definitely not alone in dealing with a second wave.. It's everywhere again.
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Star Lotulelei opting out for 2020
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I hope so... if we can roll over his cap space into next year, then no harm no foul.
I think, as currently constructed, we have a Championship caliber team. No need to use his cap space on what will be a bizarre year anyway if we can roll it over and avoid Star’s opt-out creating any kind of cap headache.