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1 minute ago, AllenLongBall said:
I was disappointed in Allen's accuracy. I see no difference from last year. I even felt worse after I saw Kyler Murray throw the ball, he's damn accurate.
Allen's accuracy HAS to improve if this whole thing is going to work out.
He had 2 drives and one of them he was lights out, with what should have been a TD.
That Zay drop is such a microcosm of last year. NFL Analysts that barely watch us look at stats and dismiss his season, meanwhile he had WRs dropping passes like that regularly.
If Zay catches that, I doubt you’re on here with your worrying.
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10 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
Peterman looked good last pre season...
I will never read anything into a pre season game again..
I think QB is one of the easier positions to “trick” people in the preseason with.
Peterman is a guy who will look good against vanilla schemes and soft coverage. He’s smart and extremely accurate.
Unfortunately for QBs like him, when the real bullets fly, you speed up and need to rely on talent as well. His arm strength was always his undoing. It doesn’t show until he’s forced to use it.
Guys like Oliver are easier to dissect. Engage lineman...beat lineman. Engage double team. Beat double team. He seems to have been doing that for most of his snaps, and against Nelson of all people.
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The interior of the second team OL looks to be Long and Teller (if he makes the 53), along with Feliciano at C.
I don’t know if I should laugh or cry about how much better Long-Feliciano-Teller is over the starting interior we had last year.
The only constant is Teller and he’s now in his 2nd year and may, or may not, make the 53 man roster.
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1 minute ago, JoPar_v2 said:
Jones gets more consistent separation than probably anyone else in that corps, sans Beasley now that he's here. That's why Zay has worked pretty much exclusively with the 1s in camp. The hands are an issue. Have been. But they weren't in college and it seems the coaches are confident he can work through that. Who knows; these are the same coaches that keep giving opportunities to Ducasse. But it's a little disingenuous from some here (not you) who are so quick to jump on the kid for alligator-arming a pass where he KNEW he was getting drilled (and did) and not even mention the other drops in the game, including darlings like Sweeney (and I like him! I went to BC I am rooting for him too).
Would Zay have caught or dropped the deep seam that Allen launched 5 yards over his head? Guess will never know because Josh overthrew him.
The good thing is this staff does believe in him. Judging by our OL, Allen’s development and an actual running game we should have this year, Zay will have ample opportunity to make plays. Especially with John Brown and Cole Beasley being focused on by defenses.
Im rooting for him. I’d love nothing more than Zay to become Juju-lite or Juju-like, dare I dream...
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Watching the highlights and reading the reviews definitely has me feeling better about C depth behind Morse with Feliciano in the fold.
We seem to have 7 OL that are all capable of consistently average/above average play. Lots to be excited for.
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Just now, JoPar_v2 said:
According to your "logic" then Foster ain't on the roster either. 2 drops. 1 of those even more "routine" than the drop from Zay. But hey, maybe you missed those. Don't want to futz up the narrative. And Jones would have been tacked at the 2 even if he had hung on to that one.
It’s not all about drops.
Zay is a WR and I have more confidence in our RBs making catches than him at this point.
If I had to choose between Foster and Zay, I’m taking Foster.... Every. Day.
He’s faster and more explosive. He has intangibles you can’t just go sign or draft.
If they’re both going to be inconsistent and dropping passes, I’m going with the higher upside one.
Doesnt matter anyway... we’re keeping both, and should.
Brown/Foster
Cole/McKenzie
Zay/Roberts
At least, that’s my WR 1-6
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10 minutes ago, Paulus said:
Pretty good highlight vid...^
Aside from the obvious..
Singletary and Perry, running backs, both made tougher catches than the routine pitch and catch Zay Jones dropped for a TD.
Isaiah McKenzie needs to be on the 53. He is a playmaker.
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3 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:
but Luck was subtracted from the team for a whole season and they didn't do that so....
But isn't John Brown more "worth it" in that role at this point?
Absolutely, but we still need a back up vertical threat. Given Josh Allen’s arm, having two guys like that is almost a necessity.
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Foster can bumble around for 4 quarters, but bottom line is he’s capable of at least one of those plays per game.
In the modern NFL, where everyone but Brady relies on chunk plays, he’s worth it.
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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:
Everything but the last thing is true.
Haha, I know. The pass was perfect. I know this because I watched the posted clip and don’t believe the 3 Allen haters who are absent reality
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For us that can’t watch... Is this accurate?
Defense looks filthy
Allen looked solid
Starting OL looked good
Singletary has impressed
Zay had a TD drop but it’s on Allen because he had to somersault, backwards flip, 360 spin to catch it
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Just now, YoloinOhio said:
Im just following the thread as I can’t get the game, but that’s a horrible drop. Watching that clip is so much worse than I pictured it in my head.
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Just now, jwhit34 said:
Actually they have 7 legit DBs: White, Wallace, Hyde, Poyer, T. Johnson, K. Johnson, Neal. Gaines was probably #8.
My bad, I was just specifying the corner backs - we definitely have a top tier Safety Tandem back there as well.
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I think we all kind of felt like this would be an issue all year - He's basically a guy that's a luxury for us to have when healthy. We still have 4 legit DB's with Siran Neal as the 5th, who the staff seems high on. EJ Gaines is that 6th guy, who will help when healthy.
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I like to look at the season in quarters and with two road games to start and a Patriots game, we need to be 2-2 at worst.
I'd like to think we're better than the Jets, as the teams are similar but where they have a dynamic RB, we have the better OL and Secondary. This is a game that would really help Josh Allen's perception around the league if he can step up in a game of two 2nd year QB's.
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Crazy how this time last year, Ducasse was in the running for a starting spot and this year, I forgot he’s even on the team.
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49 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
I’m rarely a Debbie downer or self proclaimed “realist”... but I’m thinking the entire o line fate for the season is going to hinge on the neurological state of one very specific really good guy at center.
All the rest can be dealt with and worked around. Theres no great plan b for center at present.
He wasnt projecting to start as I recall
I don't know much about Feliciano, but Long was a good interior lineman prior to being injured and being forced to play Center for the Jets. He's healthy now - Not sure if the staff sees him as a potential backup C, along with G. He has shown the ability to be an average-above average interior lineman when healthy, and has experience at Center.
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5.5 practices. If he isn’t killin it halfway through that sixth practice, I’m done. DONE.
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Long struggled at C for the Jets after playing pretty well at G for the Redskins. He was also hurt the entire time he played C if I recall correctly.
Nsehke is pretty good and it would just seem like a waste to only use him as backup tackle this year. Nothing is stopping Ford from transitioning to RT next year if we so choose.
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10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
You already know there was nobody from the draft that could've helped this team at WR?
Several fans thought DK Metcalf would be a big help for Allen considering Metcalfs large catch radius and Allens often erratic ball placement.
We also just saw two of the primer pass catchers in the league traded in one offseason.
Was it confirmed why Brown didn't want to come here?
I was under the impression Brown wanted a new contract and the Bills weren't going to do that.
I don’t know that. Do you already know Zay and/or Foster won’t step up this year?
Scouting reports would indicate we already have two young guys with the same potential of anyone we would’ve drafted outside of a 1st Round Pick.
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27 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
The Bills don't even have a single proven reliable good #2 WR.
Beasley and Brown have played 12 NFL seasons combined and between them they've produced 3 seasons with over 700 yards receiving.
Obviously there is potential.........especially with Foster...........and Brown and Beasley are coming off unusually good seasons for them.......but thinking the Bills have four #2's out there is a leap of faith, IMO. I think most NFL personnel people would rank the Bills WR corps between 25th-30th in the league.
And Watkins and Cooks had 5 seasons of 975 or more yards before they joined the Rams..........they were undisputed #1 WR's not #2's.
Hence... the word “potential”.
Obviously Watkins-Cooks-Kupp-Woods is a better unit. We have a ways to go for this group to be considered in the middle tier range of WRs.
Brown - Cooks
Beasley - Kupp
Foster - Watkins
Zay - Woods
Im simply stating that’s the style we should be emulating with the potential we can all hope for.
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1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Natural arm strength doesn't inhibit accuracy. Quite the opposite. It's a big advantage to start with. You're over-thinking it. A LOT. Allen is just a work in progress and his big arm is the only reason he got out of JUCO football. People act like he's learning how to walk.........he's been attempting these throws in practices for as long as he's been playing football. But for all of the teams he's played for his combination of arm/athleticism+lack of polish+ the teams lack of talent........taking small gains in the games has not made much sense. Not sure it does here yet either.........most of his good plays in practice seem to be off platform still. To me right now this is a guy who needs a great #1 WR and a top WR corps in general with an offense focused on running the ball and big plays thru the air. That would buy him a few years to gradually develop as a surgical passer. That's basically the formula that teams that are having success with young QB's are using.
I see us having the “potential” of a Rams-type WR Unit this year.
They had four #2 WRs out there for Goff. No #1, but also no scrubs.
John Brown and Cole Beasley qualify. Zay and Foster have the potential.
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Hughes and Oliver on the DL with a solid 5 deep around them (Lawson, Murphy, Star, Harry, Phillips).
Edmunds and Milano as young stud 3 down LB’s with Lorax. Vosean Joseph is very intriguing in this defense.
Secondary, no explanation needed. In the top 5 of talent along with the most depth in the league.
Top 5, with relatively decent health and #1 if we get legit EDGE production from Murphy/Lawson.
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37 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
WR class in 2020 is very good from all accounts.
Still thought they should've addressed this more this past offseason.
We brought in John Brown and Cole Beasley. We signed Tyler Kroft and drafted Dawson Knox/Tommy Sweeney. We could’ve drafted a WR, but it would’ve been another young #2/3 type, when we already have two of those guys on this team in Zay & Foster.
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Good Night / Bad Night - Pre-Season Game 1
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Maybe Josh should just run down the field and hand the ball to Zay from now on.
That was a good throw and any average WR catches that 9.5/10 times.