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7 WR's Diggs Davis Crowder McKenzie Shakir Austin Kumerow

I think they did a decent job with the OL. -Hiring one of the best coaches in Kromer was a great start. -Saffold and Bates as starting Guards should be upgrades to our Guard play for most of last year. -Some of the OL hopes ride on Brown making that second year jump. Insanely talented player who, if he can put it together, can be elite. Sometimes you just have to hope guys develop. -Quessenberry is a really nice depth player and can provide adequate play at RT should Brown not make the jump. On paper, this is a pretty good starting OL, with a lot of potential. Depth is ok for NFL standards. At the skill positions Crowder and Cook are massive upgrades in explosiveness over what we had last year at slot and pass catching back/rb2. Not sure what we have in Howard or Shakir. Really hoping Tavon Austin shows out and makes this roster, because he's shown in his career another level of explosiveness at WR that we don't currently have on this roster. Whether he still possesses that remains to be seen, but early returns sound promising.

THIS We had a pathetic running game outside of Allen last year. Pathetic... I don't want to hear about Singletary's YPC, he ran against light boxes and we had nobody to get us goal line/short yardage. As Simms pointed out.. Diggs is elite. Knox is above average. Davis may be big time, but we overrate last year due to the KC game. Sanders didn't give us much and neither did Beasley. So, outside of Diggs and Knox, Allen had no running game and mediocre play at WR2 and Slot WR for much of the season. That, along with an ok pass blocking OL. Much reason for optimism that his supporting cast is better going into this season... but Josh Allen elevated a slightly above average Offense into a Super Bowl caliber Offense last year.

I think the only angst some of us have is the lack of a true WR3 outside. For a team predicated upon throwing the ball, that seems strange. I'd agree though, our WR room is very good. Diggs & Davis on the outside, with Crowder in the slot is really strong. McKenzie is viewed as a solid player and Shakir seems to be highly regarded by league commentators. I'd feel much better if Tavon Austin shows out and forces us to keep 7 or (as much as it would hurt my heart) beats out McKenzie.

They have to move Baker regardless. Baker won’t play for them, and even if he did.. as weird as it sounds.. the Browns can’t risk having a good season with Baker.

Maybe he hangs around the PS, but with his apparent position being, yet another, slot WR (albeit big slot), I don't see a path for him to the roster.

I don’t know that OBJ would want to come on as depth outside WR3 .. I know he’s coming off a major injury, but he did show WR2 capability last year in LA. We’re in a tough spot where we have an alarming lack of a true WR3 on the outside, but we may not be an ideal landing spot for a vet when we have an established WR1 & WR2 who are both in our (likely) long term roster plans. If someone gets banged then yes.. I certainly hope OBJ is still out there. I’m intrigued by the Shakir pick, but ideally we would’ve drafted a true WR3 on the outside as that rotational/developmental guy. And not in the Hodgins/Stevenson long-shot sense. Maybe they see Shakir, McKenzie etc as guys who can play outside just fine in this offense.. who knows.

It definitely speaks to the roster strength when we have four, by almost anyone’s account, “elite” level players in Allen, Diggs, Miller and White PLUS so many Top 10 at their position caliber players. Even better, we’re so well set up for the future as well… we may lose one or two of Knox, Oliver, Edmunds, Poyer after this season… but with Pegula’s cash flow and Beane’s ability, even that isn’t a given.

Agree with this. I also think we’ll keep 7 - especially when two of those spots would be key ST’s guys in Kumerow and Austin (should he win the return battle). Your 7, plus Knox/Howard/Gilliam and Singletary/Cook/Moss would be my guess. Think Duke Johnson may not make it, especially if Tavon Austin is on the active roster. Cook makes him redundant and Austin can also fill in that role.

Oh, yea, we’re nitpicking.. roster is loaded. Veteran talent, young talent, potential.. it’s all there. I think Diggs & Davis can be one of the best outside WR duo’s in the league, but unless Shakir is the answer for outside WR3, who fills in if someone misses a few weeks? Who even comes in to give them rest? The OL has a ton of potential, but I can understand the worry. On paper the potential of this OL, with Kromer, is one of the best in the NFL… however, should Saffold be injury-prone and Bates/Brown not live up to the hope… we could be playing the shuffle game on the OL all season… again.

Even if this signing is simply to push Stevenson/Hodgins etc., I like it. Makes me think we are open to keeping 7 WR’s.. Diggs, Davis, Crowder, McKenzie and Shakir are likely locks. Kumerow seems pretty safe as WR6/ST We have next to zero reliable depth on the outside… if Austin can show out, or push Stevenson, that’s a win in my book. That said, Austin isn’t exactly a pure outside WR either, so I’m still kind of lost at the roster construction of the WR room.

Outside WR3

Will Cain is definitely not a nut job, you just don't agree with his views. Agreed - Inside the NBA is a show someone who doesn't even like the NBA can watch, it's that good.

Its both. A show like First Take was decent, given they refuse to not comment on social issues, when Will Cain was on it with Stephen A. They legitimately have different world views. Now that show is just Max Kellerman, now JJ Redick, in agreement with every political take that is debated. Stephen A and Michael Wilbon almost hyperventilated and fainted when KD attacked Mayor Adams over his covid policy given what was going on with Kyrie. Why on earth do the sports-watching public need to hear an entire segment devoted to ESPN analysts covid views? ..and of course, those views were all on one side. This comes across in all their programming. Not even moderate left leaning people want to be inundated with this when they try to get away by watching sports. Sometimes you get it in game… Mark Jones types just randomly lecturing the audience in the 2nd Quarter out of nowhere. Yes.. there is a lack of talent on the network…for sure, but their politicization of sports certainly plays a part. I’ll watch Bills/Cuse games wherever they are, but if I see an NBA Playoff Game is on ESPN, I’ll probably check out. If it’s on TNT, I’ll likely tune in. I don’t care about the teams involved, but TNT is a good product.

Bills Games Cuse Games NFL Live (Orlovsky and Kimes are good) College Gameday I stick to those.. anything else on ESPN that I attempt to watch has a high probability of annoying me. It should viscerally bother ESPN execs how much better TNT’s coverage of the NBA is.

ESPN literally turned into The View prior to the NBA Playoff Game after Uvalde. Thirty minute round table demanding “common sense gun laws”. No matter how you feel about the issue, that’s a made up political term. It means nothing and solves nothing. Just my own anecdotal self, but I turned it off and went to the gym. I don’t watch any of their shows outside of the occasional NFL Live. When people like me (mid-30’s male) are also turning off their live sports.. that’s a problem.

Tyreek Hill is the one I’d be most worried about giving a long term contract to, as hes elite due to his insane speed..and ability to translate that speed into his route running. That being said, until that speed declines, Tyreek Hill is the best WR in football. Almost could put him in a different category called “game breaker”. Adams & Diggs., are more complete inside/outside WR’s who will both likely age gracefully into their 30’s. Kupp is unstoppable out of the slot at times. Hop is definitely in that group, but he has some weird vibes and I just don’t know about him staying healthy/focused enough to remain in this group. Chase & Jefferson also belong in Tier 1, but it takes time to overtake the guys who have been doing it longer.

I'll be there... tix don't look too crazy on price. I feel like Jax's ticket prices were more of a shock last year.

Bright spot.. They can identify OL talent. Not so bright spot.. We can't be sure they'll play them (Teller, Bates) I do give them a bit of a pass on Teller. He looks great on Cleveland, but he's also a fit for their style of play. He's not exactly an elite pass pro guy in a pass heavy offense. Bates, no clue, seems they were obsessed with having positional flexibility as depth. Bringing back Kromer is such a big move. He can make mediocre OL's play to above average level, and this OL does have talent... Dawkins and Morse are very good players, and Kromer has all the potential in the world to play with on the right side of the line in Bates/Brown.

Beane has been pretty forward thinking when it comes to contract structuring for a win-now team. We have two long term deals on the books that could see diminishing value. One is Von Miller, who has an out after 3 years. One would hope we get 2-3 strong years out of him. After that, it’s year to year, and if we part ways after Year 3, we have some dead cap in Years 4 & 5, but nothing unmanageable. The other is Stefon Diggs. However, Diggs playing style lends himself to a long, productive career.. and the likeliest worst case scenario is that we have an overpaid stud slot WR as he gets later into the contract years. As far as other moves made, or potentially made, remember that Beane locked Allen down with what is already looking to be a team friendly deal for a Top QB… and it doesn’t even kick in until this year. He still has the proverbial “Ace up his sleeve” in the ability to restructure Allen’s deal at any time. Next off-season could be the first real point we see the effects of a top heavy roster should we have to let Edmunds, Poyer or Knox walk… but with the $$$ flowing into the league, how much the players truly like it here, and Beane at the helm.. I’m not assuming anything when it comes to who we can or can’t sign anymore.

As of right now, no.. This question probably reads to most as "If the Bills don't, at least, make the Super Bowl, would you consider moving on from McDermott?" Of course, if the season goes off the rails, sure.. but we saw today, not one absence from a team event to be there for the community and honor those killed... McDermott is a leader of men, and I'm confident he leads us to Super Bowl win(s).

I love this team so much.

I think it's pretty obvious the weather is a factor. Specifically, the weather last year. Just ridiculous what the home slate was dealt. Can't really expect a QB to kill at home when over half the games are poor weather games, and even worse... heavy wind games.

Watch Mina Kimes talk football for five seconds and then watch Kay Adams. Kay Adams is girl next door cute and good at moving the convo along.

Yea, I don’t think you can really count the season opener as a typical TNF Game. It’s going to be a completely different atmosphere, and obviously neither team is coming off a game 4 days prior.