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Switched up his grip to not tear up Josh Allen’s leg.
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Has anyone talked about the play clock issues on the final drive.
We, for sure, had to waste a 1st down where Allen got to the line, the play clock wasn’t correct, and he emergency snaps it, whips it to the sideline hoping for anything because nobody was ready to go when he snapped it. Essentially forfeiting a play.
Was that the 1st down on our final set of downs.. after the Shakir play? Or was it earlier in the drive?
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Online docs think potential torn labrum for Brown.
2-4 weeks, can play through it after it’s healed up a bit, but will need surgery after the season.
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There will be no “rebuild”
If they have to, they’ll do what Philly does or what the Saints did with Brees… push a ton of money into future years, knowing that once Allen retires, we absolutely suck for a year where we eat dead cap.
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Hard to really say that “no matter how ugly it is, Bills have a chance with Allen” because we keep coming up short in big moments on potential game winning drives.
I don’t really blame Allen.
Every time it seems he’s let down by those around him or his OC get smoked by the opposing DC.
Dawkins got beat by Chris Jones to take a TD off the board to Shakir in the KC Playoff Game. Bass misses the game tying kick. Game over.
Spags give us a look we hadn’t seen before, free rusher, Allen gets it to Kincaid who can’t pull it in. Game over.
Fact is, Gabe didn’t come down in-bounds. Close doesn’t matter. Dawkins false start takes it from 4th and 1 to 4th and 6. Texans able to dial up pressure now. Brady’s predictable and unimaginative mesh route fails. Game over.
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19 minutes ago, LEBills said:
Bills squad has some takes I hadn’t thought about before. Like how Beane and McDermotts posturing through interviews may be pointing to a bit of a rivalry between the two - part of their post trade deadline discussion.
Jeremy is goated for taking Beane’s outburst in stride and pretty quickly being vindicated by the teams play this season.
Agreed. The Championship roster comments are interesting.
I liked this topic.. I think it was the morning show, but he keeps referencing points per possession to show how the Defense, while not good, is doing enough for what one would think a Josh Allen led Offense can win with.
I think we’d all agree the Defense has been pretty bad these past two weeks, but giving up 32 in a high possession game isn’t awful. Giving up 23, when 6 of those points came off turning the ball over in FG range, while forcing 6 punts, isn’t awful.
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I have to say.. He is, hands down, the best sports media guy in WNY.
Does a great job with Joe Marino on Locked On and is the only WGR show I listen to off Audacy.
Hes not over the top and ridiculous like some of these hot takes personalities you can find in bigger markets.
His takes are extremely cathartic to hear and typically extremely accurate. It feels like he’s perfectly channeling the frustrations of this fanbase, for years now.
And he gives credit when it’s due. Hes not built off negative takes.
Just had to shout him out. Hes the one guy in WNY that this southerner makes sure I listen to.
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Probably a lot to this.
Sucks that it’s valid when they haven’t even made a Super Bowl, let alone won it.
These teams also play first place schedules every year and play deep into the season. Buffalo and KC just look worn out half the time. KC justifiably. BUF probably justifiably too, but it’s pathetic to have to acknowledge that when they haven’t truly won anything.
Titans and Giants vs Texans and Eagles could be the difference in who wins the Division.
Bills, Chiefs and Ravens get everyone’s best shot in this conference. Been this way for years now.
As a positive, it makes you think they can turn it on when it matters, like KC. But as a team who’s yet to win a road playoff game, what happens in the regular season likely means you’ll have to win 3 of them.
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If we aren’t going to win the Division (highly unlikely but watch CIN beat NE this weekend), we need to be in a position where Week 18 means nothing.
Allen beat up all season. Bosa playing hurt. List goes on and on. That has to be a rest week unless it’s win and in or win and we get the division somehow.
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1 hour ago, Billsfed1 said:
Played around with the ESPN simulator a bunch this morning, generally this what I get:
1. Denver (14-3)
2. New England (14-3)
3. Indianapolis (12-5)
4. Baltimore (10-7)
5. Buffalo (11-6)
6. Kansas City (11-6)
7. Los Angeles (10-7)
Give us another L because thats the worst case scenario.
NE would beat LAC
KC would beat Indy.
And we have to go into Baltimore…
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1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Baltimore has won 4 games in a row. That is by definition a surge in wins for them. Tap dance around it all you want, they are getting healthier at the right time. With the schedule compared to ours, it's not unfathomable that they surge right past us.
I said I think they’ll win their Division, but they’re not playing well. If anyone but Shadeur was QB for Cleveland, Baltimore loses that game.
If they had a 9-2 NE or DEN leading their division, we’d question them making the playoffs due to tiebreakers and a tough schedule with Steelers twice, Pats and Packers, along with whatever the Bengals can be.. at least in their first matchup. That second matchup could be with Burrow shut back down for the season if they don’t go on a run.
If you told me Steelers would split with them and we were guaranteed a WC, I’d gladly drop next weeks Pittsburgh game to help them hold off Baltimore so I clearly don’t want them in.
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15 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
I'm going no.
The next 5 games are all ones that will be tough to win. Then behind us, you have the Texans who now own the head to head tie breaker, a surging Baltimore team and a Chief team that can hit a hot streak anytime.
I think when the music stops, there's a shot we could be left without a chair.
Baltimore is not “surging”.
They literally played the exact same offensive game, probably worse given Lamar threw a pick six, against Cleveland as we did Houston.
Difference is their Defense held Cleveland to 9 points. And as bad as our Defense can be.. I actually think they’d have done the same to Shadeur Sanders in that game.
We view Baltimore differently because of what they are perceived to be and the fact their division is trash.
I think they’ll make the Playoffs, but they aren’t exactly playing great right now. Maybe that changes if Lamar can get healthy. Or maybe he reinjures himself.
They are 5-5 and have Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Packers, Steelers.
That Thanksgiving game against CIN will likely be Burrow playing with a ton of juice after beating NE or their last gasp to stay alive.
If they didn’t only have the Steelers to worry about, we wouldn’t view them as a shoe-in for the playoffs.
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Yes.
I think we get to 10-7, which should be enough, as long as we win next weekend against the Steelers.
We’d have tiebreakers over KC, PIT & BAL. CIN is already at 7 losses so they’d have to run the table to have a H2H over us at 10-7 to matter.
AFC South will cannibalize itself down the stretch. Colts and Texans still play each other 2x. Jags/Colts also 2x.
If Stroud can be competent when he comes back, I wouldn’t be shocked if they take the Division. Jags have the easiest schedule remaining of the 3 with 3 tough games and 3 easy games.. but they’re also Jekyll & Hyde and like us, can lose to anyone.
Chargers schedule after this weekend is maybe the toughest in the NFL, along with the Colts schedule. Both are brutal.
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I’d probably keep McDermott, but tell him he needs to hire a new OC and DC from outside the building and they both better hit or the runway is short.
Restructure Knox, move off Samuel, Johnson etc., Let McGovern and Edwards walk. Get SVPG, Anderson, Grable and Lundt with Kromer all offseason battling for open spots at LG, C and swing tackle.
DT: Oliver, Walker, Sanders, Carter
DE: Rousseau, Hoecht, Jackson, Solomon
LB: Bernard, Williams
NCB: Lewis
CB: Hairston, Benford
S: Bishop, Hancock
QB: Allen
OL: Dion, Grable, SVPG, Torrence, Brown with Anderson, Lundt
TE: Kincaid, Knox, Hawes
RB: Cook, Johnson, Davis
WR: Palmer, Gabe, Shakir, Shavers
Priority #1 - Get Allen a legit WR to knock everyone else down a peg
Priority #2 - Find a legit pass rusher or Bring Bosa back if that looks unlikely
Priority #3 - NCB to replace Johnson
Priority #4 - Linebackers
Priority #5 - OL, depending on how they view what they have in the system
Priority #6 - Run stuffing DT
Priority #7 - CB Depth
Thats a lot of holes, but only the Top 2 should require big swings in $$$ or draft capital. NCB may be a Day 2 pick. Fill in via the Draft and smaller signings everywhere else.
New OC and a WR1 fix the biggest weaknesses in this Offense. OL may require a changing of the guard but these guys coming up have been with Kromer for 2-3 years now.
Defense probably doesn’t get fixed entirely, but with Oliver & Hoecht back, plus a Bosa return or other DE signing, the DL has potential to be good. Walker/Sanders year 2. Jackson, Solomon, Carter are bodies but we have to hope they become serviceable depth.
Get younger, bigger at LB to push Bernard (who has an out in his contract after next year) and find a young talented NCB to upgrade over what Johnson has become.
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4 minutes ago, Process said:
Yea, day after a loss is not the best time for this thread.
This team is finishing with 10 wins at worst and making the playoffs.
Whether or not they are real SB contenders is another story.
10 wins might be ideal if Baltimore is the 4 seed. Could drop us to the 6 or 7 and play AFC South, Bo Nix or Drake Maye .. and yea, I’d rather any of that over @Baltimore.
And I know everyone is afraid of Taylor, but give me Daniel Jones any day and im not entirely convinced they win the South… Jags and Texans are just as live if Indy loses to KC, with the schedule they have.
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We don’t have anyone that can win one on one, but Beasley was here with Diggs and Sanders back when our GM cared about WR’s, so I can see where he’s coming from.
He’s also correct that all we run is mesh routes and defenses are completely keyed in on them. When the pass rush comes quick, Josh just has to guess who might pop open.
Thanks Dion!
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8 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
Completely different topic, but Shakir is a weird one for me because he's clearly the best WR we have right now, but winning from the slot is also the easiest role vs. what we've asked Palmer, Gabe, Keon, etc. to do and despite all the good things Shakir brings to the table, he's never been particularly good at winning against man coverage even with the advantages that playing out of the slot afford you. We have way bigger fish to fry on this offense but I don't think it would be all that difficult to find an upgrade to Shakir too even though he's a pretty good player and again, the best of our bunch.
Shakir is a luxury player. A Deebo type WR4 to play in the slot and backfield.
He shouldn’t be our primary slot. And because he is, we can’t play Keon there, we can’t move Gabe or Palmer inside down to down. We’re completely static in our positions which makes us easier to defend.
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#2 is wild for how accurate it is. I mean what are we doing?
Comical year for this staff.
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2 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:
Buffalo has plenty of time before the next game. I imagine that one day between now and November 30, McDermott is going to have his team sit down for an extensive film watching session of the Houston game. Maybe it will be done by position group and I suspect Dawkins and others are going to get to watch themselves quitting on plays, and in Dawkins' case getting his QB dumped on the turf. I think the position coaches will try and make guilty players feel every bit of that guilt.
How many wake up calls does this team need?Brady refuses to change from his overwhelming five man protection scheme love, even when Allen is getting killed.
Falcons beat him up. Dolphins beat him up. Texans almost buried him six feet deep.
Eric Wood told a story about how Marrone wouldn’t give help against JJ Watt because he said he won’t change his entire gameplan for one person. Thats literally what Brady is doing out there this year.
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17 minutes ago, colin said:
bingo.
i think if he stays healthy and plays at the level he's played at since 2024, he was a decent signing, but not a great one.
benford to date has been a worse signing. he's been hurt in each of the last 3 years, and at really bad times. bernard was paid less, but he's literally one more injury away from being a total bust off contract. shakir is a good slot player, but he's just a guy who can play, not a difference maker.
i think the real issue is we over pay for solid, and horribly over pay for injured, but lack great players (imo a great player is a player who makes players around him better, we have 2-5 of them on the team, and cook and allen are the only elite ones).
i think the edmunds comparison is kinda apt. in retrospect, i wish we signed him and let milano and bernard walk
Agree completely.
Would this team be any different without Bernard, Benford, Rousseau and Shakir and replacement level players in their place? Or maybe, gasp, we play Keon where he’s supposed to play.
This Defense is better without Bernard. Injury is an excuse but he’s always injured.
The other 3 have been ok.. and they were paid to make a jump.
In reality, it wouldn’t have made much of a difference on the cap this year, but we’re suffering this year for previous contracts like Milano, Knox, Johnson and Samuel.
It’s a hamster wheel of constantly paying non-game changers. At least this group is young .. about the only thing they have going for them.
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37 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
Im actually starting to get a feeling that Brady being fired isn’t impossible. I never would have expected that to be the case but I’m getting a feeling it could happen
Just do it. It literally cannot be worse.
He works with Kromer on the run game and Kromer will still be here.
Josh calling his own plays could likely replicate Five Man Protection Mesh Brady’s simplistic bs in the passing game.
Let Joe go take the LSU or PSU job, hit the recruiting trail and gtfo of Buffalo.
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2 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
Okay I feel less crazy now. Despite our horrendous run defense, Rousseau has been the bright spot there IMO.
In terms of pass rushing, he is what he's always been; he sets the edge and generally does a good job of seeing how the QB slides up or out of the pocket and then he reacts and finishes the play. Even dating back to college, basically all of his sacks were plays where someone else got the initial pressure and Rousseau finished the play. It's a valuable skill to have but not really the kind of skill that will dominate games and put fear in the QB.
He's a good player, but his skillset is one that lends itself to him being dependent on his teammates to really shine and as we've lost guys like Oliver, Hoecht, etc., and Bosa's play has slipped, that's eroded Rousseau's ability to be a difference maker too.
Very fair and very accurate assessment.
The question is.. how much is that skillset worth?
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5 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:
Tough guy Spencer Brown was a beaten man at the end of the night as well.
Spencer Brown was rough before getting hurt, but battled through injury and at least looks like he cares. He was miserable on the bench and looked completely dejected when the coach came over to tell him his night is over.
Can you imagine him making the types of comments Dion makes? I can’t.

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Good thing about the OL is I think they are, justifiably, confident in their ability to draft & develop there.
If they let Edwards and McGovern walk, we’ll have SVPG, Anderson, Grable and Lundt all with time on task in the system with Kromer.
Van Demark is another question mark. He’s an RFA after this year. If he plays well in place of Spencer Brown, which I think he will .. he’s a starter quality player from what he’s shown, do we bring him back?