bigduke6

what if we still had 2 marginal skill players who became overpayed while still having a mediocre QB distributing the ball to them? probably win the superbowl!!!

entirely possible Zay didnt know where the safety was and thought he might get tackled if he turned up field. lot of variables for a rookie to worry about in the spot.

Zay was clearly lookin for the ball over his right shoulder, meaning that he probably was doin what a smart rookie should do, look to get out of bounds as fast as possible. of course the placement of the ball was left shoulder so he twists and contorts and stumbles his way to a ball that glances offa his fingertips while hes completely stretched out. its possible he ran the wrong route, its possible he looked over the wrong shoulder, its also extremely possible that his QB who doesnt throw guys open or hit them in stride, or throw the ball where its supposed to be on a regular basis blew the pass. either way, we dont know, only Zay, Tyrod, and the coaches know. Thinking that Zay admitted it was his fault actually means it was his fault is naive, no WR throws his QB under the buss, especially a rookie. thinking that this one play that was fouled up (possibly) by a rookie WR shows that Taylor isnt a bad QB is also naive.

lol watched Rex Ryan talking to Jameis Winston on Hard Knocks this season, he says to Jameis "man i never had a QB as good as u, if i did id still be coaching" laughed my --- off. Thats what Rex thought of his hand picked QB after he experienced him for 2 full seasons. tbh, i think this team can win 6 games, id prefer them to win far less. anything over 6 and we might not be able to get in on the QB sweepstakes. think we will be in the 6-10 range picking yet again.... Just remembering how expensive it was for the Luck/RG3 draft. and we're assuming that Darnold comes out. Sixish QBs that people are talking up, one coming from a sub par program, 2 more in subpar offenses, (air raid/spread). If u want the pro style QBs (Rosen/Darnold) its gonna cost ya.

and all of last year

those wonderful blanket statements about a whole group of people.....brilliant work there. must be hard for you to watch all the subhumans wander around in the darkness from your ivory tower.

scares me at how expensive it will be to move up in the draft this year. lots of bad teams who need QBs, and if this draft is loaded with sure fire franchise QBs like we're hearing, its going to take a boatload of capital to grab one if we have to move up more than 5 spots.

its always an "agenda" when somebody doesnt agree with you....

ffs, dont bring politics into this.......you have absolutely no idea whether the OP is Liberal, Conservative, or an Anarchist. cmon.

nothing Watkins did here justifies the usage of 2 first round picks on him. Injuries happen, other things happen, but unfortunately, Watkins is tied to those picks given up, and compared too other WRs in his class taken far lower with better production. Watkins showed flashes. That being said, he hasnt proven hes worth the inevitable asking price at the end of this current season.

but they dont have Watkins so Tyrod has lost the ability to passl

i half wish they hadnt traded Watkins so everybody could see how he doesnt matter. but inevitably there would be other excuses for Taylor then. Bad playcalling, Oline sucks, etc etc etc. But id rather have the player/picks/cap space instead, of the oft injured possibly great WR.

so this is the old "if u dont like it, u can get out" thread. what a brilliant idea.

from the replays i sure looks like 1. Zay didnt expect the ball, and 2. He was running toward the sidelines to get out of bounds if it did come to him. Its probably a little bit on both Zay and Tyrod tbh.

lol u really expect a rookie WR to blame his starting QB in the press? hes taking one for the team. and the team knows it.

Zay was probably surprised the ball was coming to him, probably figured Tyrod was out runnin around already.

so Tyrods strength is the long bomb. yes, a low percentage play that rarely works when u actually have to move the chains. deep balls are lots of fun, very exciting, they rarely convert 3rd downs. and, if u throw 5, convert 1, does that take the top of the defense for the rest of the game? nope, still 8 in the box, like last year. did you even watch the games? its 5yrd throws or 20+yrd bombs. what happens when its 3rd and 6+? i think u know what happens, if youve been watching.

what plays should he have called to make this QB wake up? Run option? Trick plays? Long Bombs? When a defense dares u to beat them one way, and u cant, Doesnt matter what plays u call.

lol of course the Denver D carried them, but that dead future HoF QB Manning could still find and hit open receivers. cmon wake up. At no point did Manning see straight 8 in the box all season from everybody like our mediocre QB does.....

same stuff as last year, you realize how many games we got behind last year when the running game was shut down and we had to rely on our QB? more than half. u blamed the defense all last year. and then u blamed watkins not being there for Tyrod. we werent winning consistantly when Watkins was there.....ever. There were times when Watkins complained about not being targeted. was the coordinator purposely telling Tryod not to throw to him? No, Tyrod wasnt finding him. One possible superstar receiver wasnt taking us too the playoffs with this QB. Guys were open all over the field last year....and im betting they have been this year as well.

that dead "Manning" was still feared and respected by NFL defenses regardless of his noodle arm that year. gimme a break.

they dont trust Tyrod, Tyrod doesnt trust Tyrod. add that too the crappy field position for most of the game, u get dink and dunk, boring garbage offensive football. Lot more to the playcalling than just hey lets chuck the ball around. You want Tyrod throwing bombs on the 10yrd line? I know i dont.

some of you are acting like that was an average hohum kind of catch any receiver could make with their eyes closed. gimme a break.

let me get this right, youd rather win a coupla more games, have a worse draft position, and probably lose Watkins at the end of the season anyways while getting absolutely nothing in return? watkins is oft injured, with a possibility of having great upside. he hasnt proved it yet, hes going to want huge money, and we dont have a QB that can use him correctly anyways......so ya, should of kept him....smh u guys realize that the stack the box and make Tyrod be a QB defense that everybody uses, has been that way since Tyrod played his first game right? With or without Sammy, it doesnt matter. overpaying for a WR when u dont have a QB is pointless.

i feel your pain. Cant decide whos worse passing the ball right now Taylor or Barrett....