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SoCal Deek

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  1. 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

    What would they change?   Part of the reason they get away with charging full price for the games is that they could tell a court that they are technically the same product as the regular season.   60 minutes of competitive football.   There are no guarantees that any particular player will play in ANY game.   Sometimes late season games turn into preseason quality games too.   So the idea of playing differently formatted games, for instance, might undermine their racket.  

    You seem to see everything as it is and not realize that the game is almost unrecognizable from what professional football was just a few years ago. I’m pretty sure the NFL will figure out a way to make money. They always have and always will. That’s what a business does. (Heck, they’re charging fans $20,000 a seat right across the street, and that doesn’t even include the additional price to actually SIT IN IT! 😂)

  2. 2 hours ago, MJS said:

    Dis anyone watch the Patriots game a couple of days ago? The game was crap, but the Patriots broadcasters have to be the worst in the entire league. They were terrible. They didn't even attempt to call the game. They basically just chatted among themselves the entire time, occasionally referencing something in the game. It was hot garbage.

    We used to get the Raiders broadcasts out here in Los Angeles. Their preseason announcer team was nothing more than a three hour plus mind numbing marketing blitz for the history of the Raider organization. It was horrific. 

  3. 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

    They've made a lot of changes to the kicking game in the name of player safety over the years.    But they haven't changed the 20 game season.   Someone in ownership or the NFLPA would actually have to benefit from eliminating them.  

     

    Once they get down to 2 games they could conceivably play the preseason without needing any snaps from players likely to make the 53 except kicker/punter/LS.   With practice squads up to 17(?) the NFLPA may want some of these guys to get some actual game reps before the season.    

    I’m not suggesting to eliminate them. They haven’t eliminated the kickoff. They changed it. 

  4. Does anyone on here think that other posters do NOT know this was a preseason game? Trust me…..we ALL know. But that doesn’t change the fact that the team played like a total dumpster fire. Not sure why folks thinks it’s somehow unacceptable to point it out. 

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  5. 4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

     

    Why do people still ask this?    It's MONEY.   Revenue.   They have been selling tickets for and now broadcasting all of 20 game seasons for 60 some years now.  Being preseason allows the owners and players to make money and use mostly camp fodder to do so in 6 of those games until 1978 and then 4 of those games........and now 3 of those games and soon 2 of those games.   

    Thats assuming that nothing changes….but everything always changes. Heck, we now have kickoffs that look nothing like they did six months ago. So….why not change up preseason so the teams deal with it differently than they do now? 

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  6. 11 minutes ago, KellyToTasker said:

    They were down 27-0 against the Steelers after three quarters in the second preseason game (last year), both sides of the line were blown up, offense was sluggish, defense was ran through, etc. 

     

    Preseason doesn’t reveal much, just stay healthy, move onto the real games. 

    All true, but it comes back to what I said about preseason then…”what is the point of all this”? If as many said the point is to evaluate players on the back end of the roster, good luck with that! That performance was nothing short of terrible all around and unless the coaching staff has a high power microscope I’ll be shocked if they’re able to find any semblance of a diamond in the rough. Let’s hope there isn’t paint left on the locker room walls. 

  7. 6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

     

    Even if Hollins is slotted as starter to begin the year, I believe you are putting too much weight in what that means.

    I have stated before that it seems to me the Bills will not be ranking the WRs (#1-#4) the way we are accustomed to.

    That typically being how the targets rank.  I don't see that happening.

     

    All 4 will be in the mix all the time.  We need to wait and see how that is going to work.

     

    It's what they mean by "everybody eats".

    Actually I’m not putting much weight into it at all. On the contrary, I really hope it means next to nothing at all. I just want to see the high ‘priced’ rookie on the field. I believe his skillset will improve with real game time action. If he underperforms THEN put in Hollins or whoever. Just my thoughts. 

  8. 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    Beane drafts the players. That is a fact. Is McDermott involved in the process, yes. But the calls on personnel are taken by Brandon Beane.

     

    As for "just throw them out there." I am generally in favour of playing guys early and exposing them to things. And so are the Bills. But there are circumstances where you have to say "hang on this guy isn't ready" and you can do damage either to them or to your team asking too much to soon. Elam is the classic example of that. 

     

    On Keon, I think he will play a ton week 1. I am not going to get into does he start or not... Rex Ryan started Matt Cassel week 1. Who lines up where on the first offensive snap isn't that important. But I think he will be one of the three highest snap counts among receivers in week 1. If he isn't, however, I will trust that it is because he isn't ready to be. The only two times they have got that decision wrong were Josh (and he arguably wasn't really ready but was still way better than the alternatives) and Ed Oliver and they corrected both by week 2.

    Again, it's just a difference of approach. WR is not like QB. This kid is essentially being asked to "go out to the green Chevy and turn around". I find it hard to believe that that should be a huge challenge for him....and if it is, then why was he selected as their Top Pick? It can be said that just as much damage can be done by NOT starting him. If Hollins does well (and as a fan I'd certainly hope that he does), then what does Coleman need to do to get on the field? Does he just sit their and sulk? It's a Catch 22.

  9. 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    First of all "he" doesn't draft them. Beane does. But they started White, Jones, Edmunds, Knox, Rousseau, Benford, Kincaid and Torrence week one out of the box and Allen, Oliver by week 2. That is without the likes of Milano, Johnson, Dawkins, Singletary, Brown and Cook were starters later in their rookie year. They start the guys when they are ready to play.

    We’ve all been over this more than once. If you think Beane is drafting guys without McDs approval we really need to talk. Second, it’s just a difference of leadership style. If it was me, I’d give my top draft pick the utmost confidence from Day One, especially this year where he was purposely drafted to be ‘the guy’ for a receiving group that just vacated the position. Will Coleman start from opening day? I personally believe he should. Should the position be his to lose? I personally it should be.

  10. 1 hour ago, Steve Billieve said:

    I don't see why. Regular season is now the preseason. If we don't make the playoffs things have gone very very wrong.

     

    You can argue that the bye is worth fighting for, but with only one spot I'm not sure I buy it. Better to focus on figuring things out and focusing on accountability.

    I know the Depth Chart is just a chart but for heaven’s sakes! They go into the draft desperately needing to replace they’re top two receivers and after spending they’re highest draft pick on one it’s beyond my comprehension why Coleman wouldn’t be the immediate starter, and be told to get himself ready from Day One! 

  11. 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    Actually only surprise for me there is Hollins over Coleman which is surely a rookie earn it thing.

    I’m sure you’re right but at some point McD is going to have to show some faith in guys he drafts just a few months earlier. 

  12. Every year, without fail, there’s a player that everyone says is this year’s sleeper to make the roster. They often stand out head and shoulders in preseason. They rarely, if ever, make the team. Just like Lucy pulling the football out from under Charlie Brown. Every year! 

  13. 16 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

     

    When Bill Walsh developed the West Coast offense, he partially replaced the running game with a high-percentage short passing game.  

     

    Brady learned the West Coast offense from Sean Payton and is now evolving to its next logical phase: no running backs.  Heck, Josh is already the best runner on the team so why waste a roster spot - or a position in the backfield - on a running back.  Makes no sense.  

    That settles it! Gunner is clearly playing 3D chess. 

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  14. 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

    Exactly when going to London this year they asked me my purpose using my name before I handed them anything. 

    Which begs the question why can they do that at all the airports and get rid of the security lines or at least speed them up!! 

    Passport control is at least twice as fast as airport security. 

    Interesting. They didn’t ask me anything at Heathrow. 😳(Kidding) 

  15. 1 hour ago, JP51 said:

    I think that is a good point... quite honest. I think especially if they go to 18... pre season goes to 2 it is not a far leap to do an elimination or even down to 1 

    Exactly! As many have indicated, they don’t have any of this in college. Just hold a couple of glorified scrimmages against geographically close by opponents. The starters play a few series with little to no contact, and then the subs do their usual. Everyone needs to face it. Preseason has become pretty much unwatchable. 

  16. 22 minutes ago, JP51 said:

    I agree with this... back in the day the players would "play themselves" into shape, now is a year round quest... lot of difference between a 14 and 17 game schedule as well on the body... I do think that getting folks out there in between the lines for a few reps just to get their heads in a game with the noise another team etc can provide some mild benefit (as long as no one gets hurt). But the days of the starters playing Q1 then Q1 and 2 then Q 1,2,3 and then sitting the 4th game (when they had 4) are gone and probably for the better... 

    All true….so just like everything that’s changed in the NFL over the years, why are they clinging to the charade that we know as preseason? There are any number of ways to morph it and keep up with everything you pointed out above. 

  17. 58 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

     

    Meaningless to alot of fans but not to those low draft picks or undrafted rookie free agents trying to make a name for themselves either here or on another teams practice squad. It's also a chance to knock the rust off for the starters and immediate backups even for a few series imo.

    You must’ve missed the sentence where I said they’re meaningless if the actual team doesn’t play. Yes, I’m sure a couple of back row players will get a shot at making the special teams unit here or elsewhere….but it’s definitely morphed over the decades into an exercise that the teams tolerate more than one that they either enjoy or actually need. 

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