SoCal Deek

Zach Ertz enough said

It’s just you. (Kidding) As I mentioned in another post, the seating bowl is what it is. That’s not what makes a stadium unique.

I’m guessing that of everything you see in that rendering, those buffaloes are the least ‘set in concrete’. Just saying.

It’s definitely the direction things are heading these days. Smaller stadiums with nicer amenities. Gone are the days where people are going to sit on a wood bench and bring their own sandwiches.

I have literally no idea what any of that is supposed to mean. Somebody asked about whether there would Bills logos all over the new stadium. I’m guessing there will be since the stadium doesn’t have any other tenants. And I mentioned that those sort of graphics are not a major cost to a project of this magnitude. Then you responded with a ton of words.

That’s generally not how it works. Believe me Populous is NOT designing an NFL stadium on a retainer, or an IOU. They’ve been paid as they go based on monthly invoices and progress. (Unless they’re totally crazy.)

Lucky stiff.

Was your father an aerospace engineer too? 😂

So here’s how the software works. We model the entire facility (inside and out) and then we import the model into an animation software where we select a ‘path’ for a fly around animation. We can then take any ‘frame’ from that movie and turn it into a still shot rendering. It’s actually very easy once the computer model is built. It’s just like how they make a Pixar animated film.

All good points and all cost next to nothing. Why you don’t see that sort of stuff in every venue is because most stadiums are used as multi-purpose facilities. People aren’t interested in seeing team logos when they go to see a concert.

Blocked AND confused? Sounds expensive. 😉

With a stadium, the seating bowl is pretty much a seating bowl. After you get past the roof, or no roof, the differences are in the areas outside the bowl itself. Most importantly, in the concourse areas…which are non existent at Rich Stadium. That’s why I’m shocked that they didn’t present any images of those areas. Those spaces are going to be the REAL upgrade.

Well I guarantee it’s not a direct copy of Tottenham but you can certainly see that it’s from the same design firm. And, I’m guessing the Pegulas asked for it to be similar. I’m certain Terry and Kim visited Tottenham with the architects more than once.

Style is always subjective but these are two very different stadium locations. Nashville’s design is a downtown location and I believe the architects are trying to create a downtown vibe with lots of balconies facing the streets so people can be seen in the stadium bars and restaurants, ‘hanging out’ before during and after the game. The other difference with a downtown design is that you cannot get far enough away from the facility to view it all at one time. The narrow streets and surrounding buildings block that kind of vista. The Orchard Park location is in the middle of a parking lot, so you can take in the entire stadium upon arrival. But unlike Nashville there’s no surrounding street atmosphere to engage with, so balconies and patios are somewhat superfluous. Again, this isn’t about style. It’s about the stadium experience.

Ugh…let me rephrase….I’m not talking about what’s possible for the CONSTRUCTION budget. I’m talking about what’s possible to present with the design software. I hope that helps.

In my professional opinion this is 100% going to be the design. They’ve been messing around with this thing for way too long for these to be nothing more than what we call ‘eye candy’. Now with regards to the minimal level of images in this release, I don’t have a clue. It’s possible they’re trying to slowly milk the design for the public relations factor and tease them out over time….but I personally think that’s a huge mistake, especially in light of what Tennessee just showed is possible.

I doubt it. Once the design is set (which is what takes all the time) we can provide literally dozens and dozens of views in the span of a weekend…including a fly around video.

Way to go Gene. You’re a brave man trying to use Revit. It’s definitely not for ‘beginners’…no offense intended. Our people are on it full time and it’s still quite cumbersome.

I have to agree. In the world of architecture, this would be considered a bare minimum presentation for a project of this scale and public interest. Not exactly sure what’s going on here.

We’re 100% Revit based these days and then import the model into Lumion to make these sort of renderings and fly through animations. I’m not sure what software the stadium architects are using.

Not sure how to make this any clearer for you. The difference in a real estate photo is that the object (house or room) your rendering tends to be much much smaller. In the case of a stadium interior we have to ask the computer to put somewhat more of a fish eye lens on the perspective or you simply aren’t going to see much. Your stereo vision eyes can take it all in when you’re actually there, but a single camera angle has to be somewhat forced. I hope that helps.

Correct. Sound waves work very similar to light waves hitting a mirror and bounce the sound back at an angle off the surface opposite from the direction they came. All of this can be modeled to ‘concentrate’ and focus the sound towards a particular surface, like the playing field. The exact opposite technique is used in a performing arts theater where the surfaces are designed to bounce or distribute the sound from the stage in multiple directions so as to avoid echoes and feedback.

Just to clarify for people, these renderings are NOT drawn with a pencil. We create renderings these days by simply taking a screen image of the 3D computer model of the actual architectural design and then use a software filter to make the images appear to be hand drawn. I guarantee they are 100% accurate. Now, that doesn’t mean that the perspective can be a bit deceiving. I hope that clears up some of the confusion.

Having been to Tottenham it’s REALLY clear this was designed by the same firm. I’m guessing the Bills design committee visited London more than a few times during the process.

While I miss-typed the years (off by a decade….oh well, I’m typing into a cell phone by a swimming pool) I still compare this team to those pre-super bowl years. Are they really good? Obviously. But until they get over the playoff hump they’ve yet to reach the promised land.