SoCal Deek
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Just now, Pete said:
We need TE3 and WR2
I’m not taking 3rd string TE with my first round pick just because he’s the Best Player Available. And I seriously the doubt that the BPA will be a WR when we pick at 30.
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11 minutes ago, Pete said:
OL, QB, RB
also….TE and WR
essentially anyone on offense
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I think the entire premise is a false choice. Every year there are players that become a significant talent even without being taken in the top of the First Round. The league has plenty of them. I’ve said this before…the Bills need to upgrade their scouting department AND connect them with the coaching staff.
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5 minutes ago, Augie said:
One of my clients/friends was a defense attorney and his investigator was his right hand man. Willie would have been screwed if he didn’t have the guy who got answers to all the questions they had. Information is critical. That goes for criminal or civil. You still go 100% all out to win. It’s not like you give less than full effort because it’s not in criminal court. There is a LOT as stake here.
I’m sure your experience was probably related to your field of work. Willie got involved with dirty stuff too.
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True. My point is that there isn’t an independent investigation by the police or the court. Each side will conduct ‘research’ , more than ‘investigate’, to see what they can discover. …Which is why it’s called discovery, and not investigation.
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Just now, Augie said:
I know it’s not a criminal matter. The attorneys will have investigators who dig for the facts. It doesn’t have to be the police to have an investigation, but there will be an investigation. You need as much information as possible just to know who to depose. That was the point I was trying to make.
My experience with civil cases is that there’s very little ‘investigation’. It’s mostly just stacking up expert witnesses.
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6 minutes ago, Augie said:
Without an investigation, how do you even know who to depose? Of course they have to do some digging, and after all this time it’s going to be tough to pin things down.
A civil suit doesn’t involve the police. You’ll just have attorneys for each side asking questions (deposing) proposed witnesses from the opposing side. Those witnesses have to be listed and they may include expert witnesses who’ll testify to things like why people wait so long, etc.
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2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
10 of 30 NFL stadiums have a roof/dome. 5 of the 10 w/roofs are retractable.
Houston, Dallas, Phoenix and Indianapolis rarely open the roof. And to be honest I can’t recall the other one.
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12 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
It isn't a relevant question at all. The only relevant questions are about the evidence. Whoever investigates this crime is not going to investigate why the women waited, they are going to investigate evidence from that time. If there is a record of the women meeting with Columbia administrators and getting shunned, that will be taken into account. If the women told friends about the crime back when they happened and those friends come forward, that will be taken into account. If none of those pieces of evidence exist, that will be taken into account in Wiley's favor. The only question that won't be taken into account is the one you're exclusively focused on.
I’m not a lawyer but what investigation? This isn’t a criminal suit. It’s a civil trial. If so you’ll just have attorneys deposing witnesses.
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1 hour ago, DaVinci said:
I know someone who was at Tottenham which our stadium was modeled after and he said the upper level was very steep and the isle narrow
I was there. It wasn’t a problem.
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2 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:
But why would you question if they are actual victims? It sounds like you are unwilling to give them the benefit of the doubt. I just don’t get why people are so worked up about the women waiting so long. A lot has changed in society in 30 years.
Not to get too wonky but in this country it’s the accused, not the accuser, that gets the benefit of the doubt. Our entire system of justice is based on it.
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9 hours ago, The Cincinnati Kid said:
James Cook has Dalvin whispering in his ear and that’s probably a problem. Dalvin wasted his best years in the Arctic and doesn’t want his kid brother spending his whole career just below the treeline. My bet, Cook is a Falcon, Jaguar, Buccaneer, Dolphin, Texan, Ram or Charger within 2 full seasons.
THIS! I don’t think it can be overstated how much Dalvin is influencing his brother’s approach.
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13 hours ago, Einstein said:
I haven't read the full thread so perhaps you've already answered this, but is the sheer mass of overruns in this project unusual?
I understand overruns are normal, but this seems to be a drastically high number of overrun.
If I was Terry i'd be pissed at whoever estimated the original cost.Every project is different and I have no idea how far along the design was when the construction team signed a contract for the initial cost. There are three categories of cost overruns.
The first category is Owner directed changes. Based solely on the glaring lack of renderings it’s more than likely that the INTERIORS of the stadium (concourse, clubs, restaurants) were barely developed at that time but the schedule was such that they needed to break ground in order to meet a Fall 2026 opening. That doesn’t mean that anyone screwed up. I guarantee the Team all knew that much was left to develop but they collectively decided to get started …especially with the hyper-inflationary environment of the last few years.
The second category of large cost overruns is what’s known as unforeseen conditions. That’s where the soil is really bad, or the utilities you’re connecting to are falling apart.The final category is outside agency requirements. That’s when the local government swoops in after construction has started and says ‘ya know, we want you to pave the roads for five miles around the site’, or the power company demands that all of their lines be buried or upgraded.
In any case, rest assured that there’s a second pair of eyes looking at all cost proposals. The Contractors cannot charge whatever they want.
I hope that answers your question.
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1 minute ago, ***** said:
Bills should have gotten a fix price contract
The term is a Guaranteed Max Price (GMP) contract. I’m not sure that they didn’t. But, even a GMP doesn’t protect the Owner from increased costs due to ‘unforeseen circumstances’, or Owner directed changes.
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Just now, HamptonBillsfan said:
What’s the point? Isn’t 850million enough taxpayer funding with another huge amount in loans to the Bills. My point was about not having a retractable dome where fans and corporate donors were not given input. Do you prefer an open air stadium for almost 21/2 billion. Cleveland on the other side of the Lake is opting in favor of a retractable dome, why not us?
Again….now what? So now you think someone is over charging for the construction? Then your REAL complaint should be with Turner Construction….no?
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2 minutes ago, papazoid said:
steep like the orange seats in the AUD ?
Mount Everest isn’t THAT steep. 😂
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2 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:
The overruns are being loaned to the Bills, paid back over a long period.
Huh? You do realize that means the Bills are paying for the overruns, right?
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4 minutes ago, Johnny Bravo said:
You are asking “why wait” as though there are no plausible reasons beside trauma. I’m not saying this is what happened, but it’s what could have happened…
Maybe now our culture is full of people predisposed to believe any accusation regardless of the absence of any evidence. And they will shout down and shame anyone who even questions their claims. So the climate is much more conducive to making that claim now.
This thread is full of people saying the same things now about people questioning the claims of Wiley’s accuser that they did about people question Matt Araiza’s accuser.
Now we KNOW that she wasn’t telling the truth, but if Araiza hadn’t stopped at an ATM that night he could be in jail.
It is frustrating because there is no humility or introspection about past rushes to judgement, just more of the same preaching against apostates who even dare to raise questions about these new claims.
You got me there. I have absolutely no idea where you went there.
9 minutes ago, Augie said:Well then, I feel that some offenses are so heinous that they deserve justice, if only 15 minutes of public scorn. We can just disagree.
Where did you stand on the whole Bill Cosby thing? Was that water under the bridge too?
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My opinion is pretty much the same. Why wait thirty years to accuse anyone? No matter who it is.
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1 minute ago, HamptonBillsfan said:
Taxpayers are responsible for 850 million and the Bills were originally responsible for 600 million before the overruns.
And now the Bills portion has grown significantly. Sounds to me like the County/State wrote a very, very good contract. There are many such deals in which the savings or overages are split between the two partners.
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28 minutes ago, Virgil said:
The steepness of the upper deck in this new stadium is worrisome for me. When in London for the Jags game and in the stadium ours is being modeled after, the upper decks were super steep. I worry about older and drunk people navigating them. Yes, the upper deck is closer to the field than before, but to compensate for that and get as many seats in, they are at a much steeper angle.
When you see the stadium seating charts from the side view, that also shows canopy coverings, you can see it there too.I'm also surprised to see PSL's in the upper deck starting at $2,500 on the visitor side.
Virgil, it’s a necessity of the design. If you’ve ever been to the Rose Bowl you’d experience the exact opposite. That single deck huge bowl is built right into the ground so by definition it’s very shallow. In fact, when you’re there it’s hard to imagine it seats 100,000. But the new Bills stadium is the exact opposite. It is virtually all above grade. It’s essentially a large steel framed donut-shape building with seats on the inner side. The only way to do it, without having larger than necessary enclosed concourses is to go vertical. It’s just geometry.
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5 minutes ago, Augie said:
Then why wait? You don’t have to wait 30 years to file a civil lawsuit. He got paid in 1997. They could have had their money a long time ago. Could it be that they were truly traumatized? Could it be that they needed time to heal and grow strong enough to talk about it?
Then why file a lawsuit? Why not just resign yourself to the fact that something happened? Nobody is going to convince me that bringing a lawsuit THIRTY years after you allege something happened to you is OK. It’s ridiculous!
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30 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:
Ask Google or any search engine who’s financing the Stadium. Pegulas not paying for it. It’s 850 million taxpayers, 700 million between state and county. It’s already 200 million over appropriation projections. Hard to swallow huh.
Huh? Pegula is paying for everything that isn’t paid for by the state/county. Now, it’s your expectation that he NOT get his money back on ticket sales? Really? Interesting.
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1 hour ago, Augie said:
I’m sorry if that sounded like I was accusing you personally. It just seems there’s a lot of gold digger talk. If they are really after his money, why didn’t they go after him when he got the big contract in 1997. You’re the one who brought up waiting 30 years until someone came into money. That’s not what happened here. The laws are as they are for a reason. The problem, of course, is proving anything after all that time.
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Could it be because a civil suit is all about collecting money? Just sayin!
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1 hour ago, Augie said:
He came into money about 28 years ago. Maybe, just maybe, this isn’t just about money. I know people who have had traumas follow them. It’s not simple, and it wasn’t about money. Why is there an immediate assumption that they are gold diggers?
Augie….I didn’t say that’s what it’s about. I simply posed the scenario as a hypothetical that I figured people could relate to.
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49 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
there is one event on the Highmark calendar that is not a Bills game between now and the rest of the season.
Is it the Super Bowl?
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Cleveland Browns building a new dome stadium
in The Stadium Wall
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How many times do we have to go o er this? The renderings are deceiving. The new stadium’s roof covers the entire upper deck….and the overhanging boxes cover more in excess of the roof. The Bills design gives fan the choice of sitting in the elements or not. There are people who like both! Tottenham is an English soccer stadium. The Hot Spurs play in excess of TWENTY home games a year, with a significant number during their rainy period of the year.