Mat68

An extra step is the difference from 4.5 to 4.4.

In a deep Wr class they drafted one they liked early. Signed a career #2 wr in Samuel and think they have a real player in Shakir. Wr 4,5,6 on every team is a crap shoot. Hollins, Claypool and MVS have been wr 2 and 3 before in their careers. Compared to KC and Baltimore the Bills skill positions are in a similar position as both.

Brady and the offense need to rely on Allen to do Allen things less than 5 times a game. The vast majority of the game needs to be schemed up. Too often over the last few years with Dabol and Dorsey it was close to half.

MVS is Davis at a fraction of the price. Coleman likely is given the snaps and targets Davis offered. MVS is competent in the deep threat role if needed. Coleman offers more than both imo. The gamble is do they have enough? I think they believe they do. Time will tell but Cook, Shakir, and Kincaid are entering years 3,3 and 2 and they are going with the gamble they will improve to level that they dont need someone taking targets from them. 24 offseason or likley mid season I can see move if it hasn't worked out.

When you trade for a player you get the contract as it is. That has to fit the current cap situation. Once here the contract can be changed but the contract being acquired is the one he signed. The Diggs trade is made with the belief that… 1. Diggs is no longer a top 10 receiver and Buffalo is paying him like he is for the next 3 years. 2. The compensation offered from Houston will be the highest he will garner going forward. 3. Shakir in a primary role can do a lot of the things Diggs offered down the stretch last season. 4. Diggs was not going to accept a reduced target share. 160 targets was not happening and Diggs was already campaigning for his usage to match the first half of 2023 vs the second half of the season. The sum of it all is why they made the trade. Shakirs potential, the ability to add a solid prospect in the draft and addition of Samuel made the trade something Buffalo could swallow. Diggs wanted out so Monday through Saturday improvement greatly. Sunday they feel they have enough on offense to mitigate his absence. Adding Ayuik, or Higgins wasnt part of it. You could add Debo or Hopkins but I dont see the difference makers they once were and the cost wouldn't match what you were getting.

MVS, Hollins and whoever else makes the roster are vying for the scraps. MVS and Hollins are better wrs than Harty and Sherfield. Hamler and Claypool offer more potential though neither have an expectation of playing or being on the roster. I dont expect them being able to afford the contract of Ayuik, Metcalf, or Adams. Eating the amount of salary to get under the 10 mil post June 1st would likely require a 1st. Thats a road I dont see Beane and Buffalo going. 24 Kincaid will be the primary target. Shakir, Samuel and Coleman will receive 90% of the wr targets.

I see it as take Diggs 160 targets split between Samuel and Shakir. Most of Davis to Coleman. The remainder of targets to MVS, Hollins and whoever else makes the roster. Kincaid and Cook likely see more too. I think Kincaid is the only guy with over 100 targets. Shakir, Samuel and Coleman will relatively have a similar share. Not one wr is replacing Diggs. I think Shakir is highly thought of in the organization and Samuel could have a career year playing with far and away his best qb. It’s not the greatest show on turf. It also is not the 2018 wr core. I think its better than 2019 and with Kincaid and Cook make it an above average group.

It is where football is trending. Last 4 drafts have been the “deepest” wr draft until the next one. Wr are becoming as easy to find as Rbs. Diggs prolific career in Buffalo never produced playoff success. Moving to a balanced attack with a run game that has to be respected fueled the late season run. Moving to a balanced passing attack also contributed to this. Having Diggs would have been great. However, listening to his interviews after the season he is tone deaf on why his usage changed. He was getting force fed targets and the offense was inefficient. Let Allen read the defense and take whats available. Shoehorning targets for this player or that isn't effective.

MVS and OBJ have similar production over the last 6 years. MVS is a better deep threat and healthier.

They lost due to defensive depth and the lack there of. Stayed the course with an old defensive core that hobbled down the stretch. Poyer, Hyde, White, Jones, and Miller were either hurt, hobbled or ineffective. They had to pivot from that and did. Jones was the most effective and financially did the best they could with Miller.

As many as it takes. Oliver, Rousseau, and Bernard are 3 of the best players on the defense and all were day 1 and 2 picks.

Shorter is a traits guy who could be a core special teamer and maybe develop into a Hollins type player and career. If he struggles on teams his career will end abruptly. My point was they already had that player on the roster with Shakir. He passed both vetrans brought in. It was on Shorter to pass Sherfield which he was not able to do. Thats why you mix veterans and rookies. Without Sherfield, Shorter is on the roster and would have been a disaster imo. Lesser the route runner and special team player.

They drafted Shakir in that range the year prior and is going to be a big part of the offense. He passed both on the roster last season and positioned for a primary role. Id argue if Diggs was injured similar to Kupp and Watson Shakir would have made a much larger impact last season. Nacua and Wicks production was tied to injury creating the opportunity for increased target share.

This. Main thing is the Bills feel comfortable with Kincaid as the primary read and focal point of the passing game. Shakir, Samuel and Coleman will be Wr getting most of the target share. Buffalo feels comfortable with this. They like Coleman and Shakirs potential. The Superbowl Champions primary weapons. Kelce, Pacheco, Rice, Watson and MVS. Kincaid, Cook, Shakir, Coleman and Samuel is much worst? Kelce is turning 35, Rice missing time, Hollywood Brown, and Worthy doesnt blow your doors off. Buffalo does not have the top skill grouping in the NFL. In its totality they are middle of the road.

Only roster locks are Coleman, Samuel and Shakir. I think Hollins and MVS are safely ahead of the rest. Shorter, Shavers, Hamler, Isabella, Cephus and Claypool all have unique paths to the roster if they maximize their roles and ability. Not overly inspiring but bottom 3 roster spots will be more highly contested than in years past. Harty, Mckenzie, Sherfield haven't faced this level of competition. All three would be lumped in this same group and would struggle to separate themselves.

Buffalo paying 1/3 the price for the role he played in KC? Bad how? Kc paid him to be there wr 1 or 2. Buffalo is paying him to be wr 4 or 5

Rasheed Rice is significantly better than Shakir, Sanders or Coleman? I dont see it.

When you compare it to Baltimore and KC it is fine. Kincaid needs to improve and will be the primary pass catcher. Then you have Shakir and Sanders with Coleman growing into the role. More he can do the more he will get. MVS, Hollins, Claypool, Hamler or whatever camp body you want to add will make up the bottom of the room. MVS and Hollins made a career out of this role in a wr room. Like most positions on the roster under Beane. Hollins and MVS are the floor. If any of the boom or bust guys boom they replace either. This is not Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, Kelvin Benjamin and Charles Clay bad. Very much NO Saints Prime Brees vibes. Kincaid in the Colston/Graham role. Coleman can frequent the Michael Thomas role at times. James Cook getting an expanded role in the passing game like Bush and Kamara. Now where in the NFL did Brady get his coaching start? New Orleans under Sean Payton.

Probably not. Has the athletic profile but no elite production. Was on the offense with a top 10 Qb prospect and didn't really produce. Maybe he puts it all together. More likely he is an elite trait core special teamer.

MVS is a deep threat. 15 plus yard per catch for his career. He isn't a potential star but a solid role player. I think it fits the offense and adds an element missing. Those plays in the playoffs are what he would be brought in for. Shakir, Sanders, Coleman, MVS, Hollins. Claypool, Hamler, Isabella, Shorter and Shavers look for 1 sport maybe push for Hollins or MVS spot. Compared to KC and Baltimore it is plenty good enough.

Hated this guy on ESPN. Terrible analysis just protected the refs in the worst ways. Only the worst teams did this. I feel like this has to be the Jets?

Maybe it was yours in April. Thought I saw something similar on twitter.

Games he was active for he usually started. Benford and Douglas are the incumbents. Im not inclined to change that. I think Elam is perfectly suited as the outside backup. With Johnson thats 3 outside and slot. Open spot behind Johnson on the roster and maybe spot if a guy has outside inside flex. Jemarcus Ingram, Cam Lewis, Deontay Hardy competing for like 1 roster spot maybe 2.

I think the difference may be that Davis never improved his efficiency. His 50-55 catch percentage was the same when he got 63 and when he got 95. If Shakir shows a slight regression from 87% to 79% that is still an improvement for the offense. If Shakir gets a similar increase Davis saw from 21 to 22 that is 95. Thats 75 catches for roughly 1100 yards. Ayuik in year 3 got 115 targets for 78 catches and 1015 yards. Shakirs last half of the year and playoffs were similar to Ayuiks 2nd season. I think the team will see if Shakir can handle the volume. Similar to Cook last season. If he does that resources can be invested or added next offseason without giving up picks.

Poles is still the GM. He was very vocal that any trade with Carolina would involve Moore. Moore is viewed at the number 1.