Mat68

Two things have to happen. Buffalo stops the run and score over 20 a game. Right now neither seem likely.

Both cover 2/ Tampa 2. Peterman threw in Windows Taylor wouldnt. Thats it. It aint college. They cant go 2 deep at linebaker and the secondary, even if they wanted to so for the most part it was vs the same players on the backend. I dont hate Tyrod. I want him to succeed. When the d runs the same defense on every third down and you cant beat it the writing is on the wall.

That was the same defense scheme and plays thay Tyrod couldnt get the ball more than 5 yards down the field against.

I think most of blame on Taylor is because we do not have a dominate defense. Still the offense needs to help the defense and vise versa. Neither side of the ball is dominate. To win both side of the ball have to be oppurtunistic. Against a very good team you cant keep going 3 and out. When you are down more than 10 points you cant throw the check down for mutliple 3 and outs. The defense was gassed and NO smelled blood and pounded the d into submittion. Does that happen if TOP is even or the score is closer idk.

Imo its the quick passimg game that Taylor doesnt do well. Take away the run play zone on the back end. For most teams its simple pass and catch. The windows are their. Those are the anticipation throws that Taylor doesnt throw. The "open" guy will be the check down or shallow route with 5 guys ready to rally and make the tackle. Peterman did a very good job in the short sample vs the same defense hitting the windows and having good ball placement on tight throws. The differnce is 123 pass for peterman 123..pass or escape a closed pocket and sack.

Say what you want. That was the same defense scheme Taylor faced the entire second half. If he can't or wont throw in NFL zone windows than every team will key the run and play cover 2 on third down. A defense that is as basic as it gets.

Thats why i dont think it is a scheme issue either side. The defense doesnt have terrible personal like carrington at OLB lol. The offense comes down to play calling. There are plays to take advantage of Taylors strengths just dont see a connect.

Practice what you preach. Just like this offseason. Are you on the bus or not? Ok now midseason are going in same directions and are you aiding in success or defeat. Because, you are a good lockeroom guy or person doesnt matter. Thats already been decided you and whoever is. Who is playing the best football. To me Milano goes in, elston sees more snaps. Taylor indiviually, than the captains are all aware that if the play doesnt improve than the rookie is going in to spark the offense. Just look at dallas houston, philly, and LA and tell me we are tanking for playing the younger qb. First though Milano goes in to put the vets at notice a bit and not get comfortable.

That is what changed. First 7 weeks they stopped the run. Now they cant. Pointing to them shifting late and looking out of position.

The scheme has worked in the NFL for 20 years. The guy who has seen it from the begining and only now gets to call it is a concern.

Ya they had no answer and LAC is going to do the same thing.

The Bills stopped the run. The defense looks out of position pre snap. They are not responding to motions and shifts well at all.

Lol watch Cardale drop 300 yards. Actually, he goes 150 and 70 running. Melvin Gordon is a bad matchup for us. Unless they commit to run blitzs and 8 9 in the box they may win with or without Rivers.

Correct but now look what the offense did from the fumble on. Its a complete snowball effect. The Saints obviuosly had a good idea of how to attack the defense. Everything they called worked. Without any offensive help to stop the bleeding the defense gassed in the second half. Which made a bad situation that much worst.

I just feel like whole qb change narative is poorly executed in most and all cases. If Watson was a poor half of football away from playing why wasnt he just named the starter in preseason? They may win that opening game with a gameplan around Watson. To the Bills situation. If like many feel Peterman is a poor half of football away why wouldnt you just make the switch now and give him a full week of snaps and practice with the ones. Have a game plan that fits him and the team. So from here on do they a package or set of plays around peterman if he gets in? Mcdermott is allowing OTA's and TC too much clout. A spot is earned and its required to be kept. Reguardless of your previous assumptions. Milano has earned playing time regaurdless of experience. I would put elston on the filed too. I have doubts either of those moves on defense are made. He is committing to the vetran players. So if he wont replace the will baker for a more explosive rookie why would he change the qb.

Neither side played well for 2 weeks now. Its easy for it to snow ball on defense. All im saying the defense will need to offense to score over 20 points a game...They will not win with defense alone. The defense is nowhere near domimate.

A few first downs maybe some TD drives and now the defense has something to play for and sway momentum. Football is funny game that way. At worst they would be more enjoyable to watch. I will argue trust the process and earn your spot died with Milano. He played well and made miltiple game changing plays. Humber has been a speed bump since coming back into the lineup.

You could say garbage time started after the first run only TD drive for NO. So mid 3rd qrt to last 2 mins Taylor did nothing vs the same look he faced all game. If a defense can run the same play in the same situation and you can not find the solution that falls directly on the Qb. I think the 3rd or 4th third down checkdown they showed dennison sitting next to Taylor. No words spoken almost for show and then got up and walked away fed up. Shortly after Peterman entered.

Unless Peterman is a revoulation or Taylor does a 180 I think you go qb and Dt round 1. Maybe linebaker, depends what happens in FA. I think they target whichever tackle Carolina lets walk. Star or Short.

The team more improtantly Mcdermott thinks he has a very good defensive unit. They may have a good scheme but the defense plays bend and dont break. When you play that way it relies upon an offense that moves the ball and scores points. Right now the offense is predictable and not good. I place the blame on play calling and quarterback play. Probably 50-50 split. Mcdermott seems like a guy that will over analyze the situation to expect better play and play calling. I think the easiest solition will be a Qb that fits vs expecting alot from 2 individuals that havent shown alot individually.

Easiest way to hide an Oline and protect the qb. Get the ball out. 3 step drops are the hardest to defend. When it takes 3 steps and hitch or two it is not going to work. That fits Peterman's game not Taylor's. Now what will it take for Peterman to earn it? I do not think he can. If Milano couldnt surplant Humber i dont think Peterman sees the field unless its an exectutive order from the top.

A few take aways. Dennison is still figuring out how to call a game. That was a little concering that he has been in the league as long as he had and was not a successful play caller. There are plays you like but you want to maximize your personal as well. The option to with tolbert made no sense he is not an open space runner and the flow of the defense would easily force the play to the boundry. The run game was fine. Mccoy was 10 for 49 at half but they had to abandon the run which never happened. The way you beat shell zone concepts is from the pocket. Quick passes and seem routes. Utilize benjamin as a gronk or graham. Stack him in a bunch and give him the seem option route. After 2 bad losses the fixes are not quick or easy. At the same time they are the same team that dismantled the raiders at home. As much as Tyrod is our starter talk there is a point were you have to change personal. Same goes for Humber. He is not nearly as productive as he was pre injury. Milano made plays and again has more atheltism and upside.

I agree. At the same time if you are at the point of second, third chances, and looking for a point in the game to make a change do it now. Give the kid a full week of reps and a gameplan around his abilities. You dont go back. Peterman can go 11 for 20 with 50 yards and an INT but atleast he is a rookie and not a 7 year vet. I would try to use taylor as a wildcat role if he was up for it.

Seems like a terrible route and play call for 3rd and 12. Curl flats with clay running an option route. With the DT dropping it completely destroys any chance of the play succeeding. Seems like that was the same play run every 3rd down. They literly cant beat cover 2 on 3rd and 12? Dennison had 4 chances in a row. Reguardless of play call though, Taylor played with 0 desire in the second half. Down 2 than 3 and 4 scores you have to drive the ball down the feild and attempt to pick up first downs. After the first quarter it was obvious that the defense was going to have their handsful. They came up with the TO in the redzone to keep the game competitive and the offense goes 3 and out and gives NO the ball back at midfield. The Bills are who most of us expected them to be. The early season success had covered up alot of the issues this franchise has had for 3 years. The rest of the season will be good indicator of what Buffalo has a coach. What happens from here? Obviously, run defense will be a big concern. Does he change things schematically, or personal, maybe both? On defense I would look at starting Milano move alxander to sam in a over look or strictly de and egde rusher. Maybe go with a 3 saftey nickle. Put hyde at slot, Poyer deep, elston in the box. Offense speaking i think Peterman may be in play. I would be getting him coached up and prepared if the offense continues to sputter. I would repect Taylor as a player and leader and have an honest converstion about the state of the team. Reguardless, of scheme play or turnovers, as the QB and leader the success and failures falls at the feet of the qb. If the ship is not righted soon a perminate change is coming. The next few weeks will be intersting not just for the year but going forward.

I agree but he could not be worse than how Taylor played.