Mat68
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1 hour ago, Pete said:
questionable? Have you ever taken a Stats class? A sample size of 11 provides a better chance, then a sample size of 1. My point is keep the picks, and add more if you can. It will be better for the BIlls in the long run with probability
In pro sports outside of baseball with how specialized pitching has become, talent tops numbers. Some players can come in and change a franchise others are come in and fit in. Some cant make it. Point being, give me a top qb prospect over 3 average to above average players. You hit on Qb it effects your team more than hitting at any other position. Since the Kelly era Buffalo has hit at every postion in the draft but Qb.
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I have to admit using Rosen as a method to move into the top 5 to draft Barkley would be the Billsy thing they could do. I wouldnt but come draft night i never know.
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I am biased as a penn st fan but baring injury he will be as good as Elliot and be tops in the league. He runs like Mccoy with the hop steps and change of direction while being 20 pounds bigger and faster.
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I think Buffalo goes all in on Rosen. He might have just enough doubt around him Buffalo could pull it off. He is the unquestioned best pocket passer in the draft. Cleveland may be open at 1 when they have 4. NYG with Gettleman may like 21,22, and Glenn to get oline and running game fixed. Indy has alot of holes as well. If im Buffalo and Rosen knocksnout the interviews and visits make it happen.
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5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Yoooo Saquon, that’s getting it at 225
He looked bigger on the field. 225 i expect him under 4.4. Somewhere in the 4.36 range. I would expect him to be in the top 5 in almost every rb drill.
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5 hours ago, thebandit27 said:
Adios to the 1st round for Orlando Brown...
6'8", 360 lbs, and 14 bench reps?
Dude, I get that the arms are long, but that's just pitiful
For context, Tyrell Crosby is 35 lbs lighter with longer arms and did 3 more than that...and to me, that's understandable. Crosby isn't girthy, and you can only push so much with super-long arms.
If they package glenn in a trade i would be happy with brown. A dude that tall will never kill the bench.
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10 hours ago, BeefCurtns said:
Hmm this is a pretty tough question. Gonna go out on a limb and say Teddy can read a defense.
Last full year starting Teddy passed for 3200 yards 14 tds and 7 ints. Seems like Taylor production minus the running ability and more ints. Again where is the improvement?
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Jackson and Cam are two different players with different styles. What Beane is talking about is the doubt that each are and have faced are similar at the same point in each of their careers. Its easy to play revisionist history and say that everyone expected Newton to go 1 and become a great players but that was not the case. Polian was in the league but those analyst of his ilk all said the same thing. Newton is a run first Qb and cannot win inside the pocket as a pro. He is too inaccurate to be a success. His only positives were his size and running ability. I understand the comparison and believe that it is very similar in terms of his detractors.
The style of play that Jackson will have Taylor really could be a perfect bridge Qb for him Taylor has a pretty good feel for when to run, when to throw it away and importantly how to avoid taking big shots. Jackson those a good ball. Like any athletic guy he will miss throws high and outside when he throws from an awkward base. When in rythm Jackson can throw as well as anyone. Like every Qb in this draft not named Rosen, he cleans up some of his foot work and he will be fine.
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I would be curious as to which area they see him as an uograde over Taylor. It think If you fot Talor level consistency out of him you would be happy.
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I do not see much more than a young Fitzpatrick when i see Keenum. That amazing play vs NO where that defender whiffed on the game ending tackle changed Keenums life. Before that play the narative would be how he choked away a 2 TD lead in the 4th at home. Now he will be paid as a top Qb. I hope Buffalo doesnt break the bank for him though i do think he could be a solid starter.
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Really would like davis in the slot but I think this means Buffalo is letting Gaines take some visits and test the market.
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Rosen is the best thrower of the football. From a family an up bringing where he is self aware and knows what he is and smart enough to know what he can be. Give me Rosen. He is Matt Ryan before social media. If he slides 1 spot and im Buffalo I move up.
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No. Vick showed that on his own ability he could beat alot of teams and carry a team. To believe he never studied his playbook once in atlanta is crazy. He beat Farve in GB in the playoffs. Manzie is at best a middling NFL Qb. No reason to start a pr fire over a camp arm.
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24 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:
Let’s not fight. But that would seem ridiculous to draft a QB anywhere in the first 3-4 rounds now,
Bortles is basicly on a Taylor deal. Bortles has pretty good numbers looking at yards and TDs. He plays either very good or poor. He estiblishes some consistency and he still could be very good in a early big ben way.
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I think they will target 1 or 2 Qbs early in Fa and try to avoid paying Taylors bonus. if that does not come to fruition I expect Taylor to be on the team barring a trade for a veteran Qb. No Fa signing or trade Buffalo than moves up for a Qb. Depending what happens in March will better paint the picture for the draft. IMO there is really only 4 options that results in Taylor not being on the roster. Signing Cousins or Bradford, and trading for Luck or Foles. Outside of that Taylor is on the roster. Imo there is only 3 options that does not involve Buffalo trading up during the draft to get a Qb and that is signing Cousins or making either trade listed above. I see a plan on how to attack the position but they need to keep the focus improving he position not just an anybody but Taylor mentality.
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3 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:
If it hasn't already been stated, this looks like it means the Bills won't be in the Cousins Derby. I don't think they would spend that $6M on Taylor's bonus if they were pursuing the FA QB that is going to cost a boatload of $.
My understanding is that the bonus is not until the 3rd day of the league year. They sign or trade for a Qb on day 1 or 2 they can still cut Taylor and avoid paying the roster bonus. Who could they sign that is 100% better then Taylor? Imo you have Cousins, Keenum, and a healthy Bradford. The rest of the crop of FA qb have not shown to be more consistent or more productive then Taylor, and would likely cost more as well. Could they pull off a trade for Luck or Foles? Those would be options but I do not expect either Indy or Philly rushing into making that decision by the third day of the league year. So that all leads back to paying Taylor's bonus.
If either trade materializes for Luck or Foles they could include Taylor because either team would need a back up Qb. They also could do what Philly did with Bradford when they found out Wentz was the real deal. Trade Taylor in training camp when a contender loses their starter to injury. The qbs with the highest upside this year may not be ready to start week 1. They draft Allen, Darnold, or Jackson they all could benefit from sitting behind a Qb. Say all you will about Taylor, but any rookie could benefit from learning and seeing how to be a pro. They all would have more talent but could see how you need to prepare and work to be a starting Qb, A few weeks ago I thought the chances of Taylor staying a Bill was higher than many thought. I think its 50/50 he is Buffalo Bill week 1. I am happy, as a fan of the Bills that wants a winning team each year, that they will not fall into the same trap they fell into with Ej. They listened to public sentiment about Fitzpatrick and cut him without a better option on the roster. They drafted Ej who had alot of upside but was forced to see the field early because there was not a better option on the team. Average Qb play is better than bad Qb. Yes average is not good or great, but no need to settle for less when you are looking for better.
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It would make no sense to move on from Taylor unless a better Qb is on the roster. I dont mean more potential, actually better today. Taylors salary isnt bad, no reason to make a mistake at Qb because you are desperate. With his bonus not until the third day they could sign or trade for a Qb and then cut him. If they are poised to draft a rookie Taylor makes for good competition or bridge Qb. He provides a level of play that needs to be surpassed.
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I think if Rosen caught a bit of slide Buffalo would be likely to move up and get him.
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Imo this helps out the established teams. For a team still building you are not going to get ahead of anyone just letting good players walk for mid round picks. If you are the Patriots or Steelers sure. They are pretty up against the cap so if a players leaves they can get a return on that. Imo you are better selling a year early if you expect the player to leave. You can get an immediate asset for your current year draft and at a higher round in most cases than the actual compensatory pick would have been. Chandler jones, Jamie Collins, and Watkins are all trades doing this.
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12 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:
Over the past years or so I’ve read articles about Ralph Wilson. In doing so, one phrase keeps coming up - “cash to the cap.” However I can’t find an actual definition anywhere.
Can someone clarify what “cash to the cap” means, specifically as it relates to Ralph? My best guess is that it means you don’t spend the entire salary cap, and keep the money you didn’t spend. Am I far off?
My understanding it was in terms of signing bonus and cap implication. Say cousins gets 50 mil signing bonus. instead of prorating that amount over the years of the contract they would use most if not all of that 50 mil towards the 2018 cap.
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3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
....anything to read into McBeane personally scouting him twice, first at the WVU game and then his bowl game?.......or is it protocol for the top guy to personally do the scouting as part of a "smoke screen"?.....what do you think?...........
OSU also has the best deep ball threat in the draft. So to assume he was only watching Rudoplh is a stretch.
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3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Ha ha! I would say that about Flacco. Seriously, Flacco has had great play on the D side of the ball at times, and he has that SB win but otherwise in terms of actual recent QB results Tannehill > Flacco. After a few solid years starting in 2013, it's like every other year Flacco throws almost as many INTs as TDs. Tannehill is at least as good as Dalton, and without the benefit of throwing to AJ Green. The only knock I can give you on Tannehill is he threw too many picks his first 2 years but he seems to have got to grips with that, so unless he starts doing a Flacco, we could win with that.
Smith is sort of his own outlier class as a QB since he took like, 5 years in the league to start playing decently and longer to become good. So do you call him what he was last year (quite good), or what he was previously in KC (servicable) or what he was his first 5 years (bust)?
I shouldn't answer for Bocephuz but IMO arm strength may reflect different things - Allen clearly has a howitzer but he doesn't seem to have touch on his short and intermediate throws. Mayfield doesn't have a howitzer, just a good hunting rifle, but he seems able to dial it in. Perhaps that is part of what Bocephuz is seeing?
Rating Allen and Mayfield 5 for arm strength would be same as rating them both 5 in accuracy.
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1 hour ago, Bocephuz said:
I watched 3 games each of the top 6 prospects. See chart below for my rankings.
My scoring system is weighted... for example... decision making has a weighting of 3x... under center experience has a 1.5x weighting
My 3 general takeaways are this
- Mayfield and Rosen are on their own elite level
- Darnold is not worth a top 10 pick
- Rudolph could be a serviceable starter.. not a high ceiling.. but could be Tannehill
Flame away:)
Click on the image below to bring up the chart in viewable size.
I commend the work and effort. Scoring Baker the same for arm strength that you score Allen however, leaves me questioning your opinion on everything else. That is really an apparent difference that jumps out at you.
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For the right money he would make alot of sense. I do not believe they will sign him for what they want to before FA starts however. If after the initial rush comes and goes and he is left unsigned maybe they come together. I dont see Buffalo giving out a lot of guaranteed money in FA. Gaines played well for a good deal. When he was on the field the defense was supremely better. With his injury history I do not see Buffalo offering Gaines the money he is looking for and could very well obtain.
Bucky Brooks NFL combine winners (Allen) & losers (Rosen).
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Mat68
This is why Darnold didnt throw and why he was right not to. Allen has all the hype and can throw it a mile. No one is going to throw better next to him.