
Mat68
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3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
No! Foster ran an excellent route!
I was mistaken. Didn't see this view.
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He was 2 plays away from 350 and 4 TDs. First, the play to Clay everyone saw and talked about. The top offenses have players that routinely make the type of plays. Half of Mahomes TDs are guys making the play on the other end. Secondly, the bomb to Foster. I thought Allen threw a bad ball too much on it. If you watch Foster drifts toward the center of the field. If he runs that route straight he catches it and walks in.
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3 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:
It was on Clay as much as the drop against Carolina last season was on Zay.
Not a great throw, but certainly catchable. Now if you spent last season bashing Tyrod Taylor for the throw against Carolina and are not claiming this was all on Clay, you're being intellectually dishonest.
Under perfect circumstances Taylor made a poor throw. Allen reversed feild twice and threw a crossed his body for 40 plus yards. The fact the ball was even catchable defies physics. The pass before to Jones would be a similar pass. 3 steps boom Allen put it on the money.
22 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:It was Herculean feat by JA just to escape pressure and get that in the vicinity of Clay, so there's no way I put the blame on Josh for that. At the same time, it wasn't the easiest of catches for a tight end with bad knees. Zay is as much to blame for dropping the prior pass as Clay was for dropping his. Neither were "easy" grabs, but you'd like to think we'd be able to hold on to at least one of them. So, yes, Clay "should" have caught it, but it's easy to see why he didn't.
Those are plays Mahomes, Brees, Brady and Rodgers routinely have guys making. When its caught it's great. When its dropped he is inaccurate.
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The pass is a super freaky play. The ball traveled well over 50 yards. Clay needs to gather himself and make the play. Only Mahomes or Rodgers could have made that pass. Clay was surprised by the pass coming to him and wasnt in good position to catch it. Mahomes get 5 passes caught like this a game. If Buffalo pass catchers dont get the ball on the numbers they dont catch it.
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Out of the current crop of Wrs I think they need a whole new crop with Jones, and Foster the only true hold overs. A combo of rookies and FA, with 4 new ones sticking.
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I dont think Allen will be a high completion % qb. Now I do see room for improvement. I am very impressed with his ball placement on balls in side 25 yards. Seem to be able to place it. Something Ej and Taylor didn't do. Something Fitz was spotty with. Imo it's a chemistry thing. His wrs are young and new, Allen had limited reps in preseason and was out for 4 weeks. An off season of guys catching passes from Allen will sure up somethings. Having guys who can go get the ball in the air will help too.
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8 too high for a flex. If he runs sub 4.5 maybe late teens early 20's. If Font had the ability to inline block I would be more intrigued.
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57 minutes ago, VW82 said:
Why is that? Allen is above criticism? He made a lot of things happen out there today but ultimately we lost because we were only able to generate 17 points. That's not good enough and a big part of it was because Allen missed so many throws. It's ok to be excited and still see there are significant problems that need to be addressed.
So many? One miscommunication with Jones in the endzone and one deep ball to foster? Including the pick he made 3 poor throws out of 30. You consistently see guys making plays in the elite offense. The last two plays sums up the season for Buffalo and the offense. Allen makes a perfect throw to Jones. Text book back shoulder fade. What looks like a big play on 3rd down with 50 sec left was actually dropped. The final play was chaotic, wreck less. Your saying no, no, no than crossed his body about 50 yards in the air to a wide open clay. Yes, yes, yes and bounces off Clay's chest game over. Neither play was easy but those are what is holding the team back. When guys start making those plays Buffalo will win alot of games.
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Jones or Clay make either play this is a different conversation. Allen damn near went 90 yards with 0 times outs and 230 left on the road needing a TD.
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3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:
Almost all quarterbacks are up and down.
He had one pick, bad throw. And a few more terrible throws like the Zay td miss.
But he marched them right down the field to win the game, and made an amazing play and throw that gave them a shot.
He’s completely hit or miss I find the easy throws and reads he misses very concerning.
Just saying overall the kid can’t win with this crowd. Last week not enough stats, this week no win. I found his game to be incredibly encouraging today. Lots of young players tuck tail playing badly in the first half
It's hard to tell. Looks like a guy to me who has 6 starts and not enough offseason reps to have good enough chemistry with his skill players. Wide open Allen thought he was going to sit down Zay kept running.
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The top QBs routinely get help from their teammates. I come away from this game thinking how good will Allen be if he has guys that routinely make plays? If the ball is not put on the numbers his guys dont catch it, when he does it's still dicey.
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No. You could argue he isnt even the most talent LB for Dallas or the most explosive. Jaylon Smith is a huge boost for him. Edumonds at 20 is calling the plays and making the checks. Give Edumonds an NFL off season and look out. He could add 10 pds of muscle. He also has the ability to come off the edge on long passing downs.
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Allen shows he is a dude and 90 mil in cap space does the job. The new Fieldhouse helps but would not be a factor for a world class athlete.
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With the team needs, finishing in the bottom of the league will not help this offense. The Bills need an infusion of offensive talent. The top half of the draft is pretty much all defense. Picking from 10 to 15 would be ideal for the pick of o lineman or skill position player. The bigger improvement this year by Allen just makes 2019 more promising.
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40 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:
Yep - except for the multiple extensions Pittsburgh offered him at 14+ million for the next 3 years and the 4 year extension they offered him last year at over 12 million a season. Both deals would have made him the highest paid RB in the league at that time.
He wanted more - he wants to be paid as a high end WR at over 16+ million.
Those deals where only 10 mil guaranteed. Like Gurley. It's not really the overall number as it is the guaranteed money money a year for a Rb now.
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You cant blame Hackett for having a Qb who cant throw the ball inside the numbers.
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There are not many top talents in the FA pool. Instead of overpaying for potential inwould over pay for a guy who is elite. I would give him a big 3 year deal. 3 years 40 mil. Trade McCoy for cap savings and pick up a player or mid rd pick in return.
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He seemed to lose his suddenness. Seems from point A to B hes as quick as ever. That hop step and start stop has faded. Gotta find some one give all that money to, I trade McCoy for a mid rd pick and back brinks up to Bell for 3 years. Bell looks like the best skill player available.
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You need to be very nitpicky to want a much better performance vs that defense. The most athletic defense in the NFL he beat with athleticism. He made some great plays and willed the offense to victory. Hopefully, he can build off this next week.
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30 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:
It's not asinine it's completely accurate. The part you keep skipping and I have said over and over again is that Allen should get better. It's not apples to oranges because I'm not saying Allen should be doing what Mahommes is doing now. Just like no one was saying how great Mahommes is last year. They are saying it this year. Why? Because Mahommes wasn't passing for 400 yards and 5 TD's a game last year just like Allen isn't this year. Allen needs to be a better passer. This game was good (all around) but not great. We didn't spend all the draft picks and rebuild the offense to throw for 180 yards a game. Can they do it? It looks pretty good. Are they doing it yet? No. Allen is putting up Alex Smith/ Tyrod Taylor/ Tim Tebow type stats. I'm sorry if that offends you but it's true. The good news is that he looks like he has potential to be better and then when he's throwing for 250 yards a game and 25 TD's a year we'll both be right except you can look like some kind of saint because you crowned him king before me.
I just dont understand the comparisons and expectations. You could say Geoff, Trubisky, even Big ben... You are using busts when many successful QBs have had similar stat lines early in their careers.
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5 minutes ago, mattynh said:
I do agree he was instrumental today, but they way he played today is not sustainable and wont work against better teams. The Jags are a great defense on paper only, they have been getting smoked for weeks. That was one example, there are plenty of others, he is a one ready QB right now. He could have diagnosed the pressure before the snap and watched for a couple things after the snap and easily read that and completed the pass. Instead he looked at his first read and then pulled it down. Like the better QB's do all the time. He will need to rely less on his running as time goes on. You want to put him in the HOF go for it but Im not, he barely completes 50% of his passes while most guys are mid 60's. Stop making excuses. He needs to improve a lot, I am hopeful he will. Today he completed 8 passes out of 19 and he rushed 13 times. He ran today on like 40% of his drop backs, that will not be a recipe to win a lot of games.
Never said HOF or any level of accolades for that matter. I just do not understand why more people are not impressed by Allen out athleting Jacksonvilles defense. He doesn't have a go to guy on 3rd down. He doesnt have a running game to fall back on. If this was a terrible defense than I understand. I do not recall an easy matchup yet for Allen.
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5 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:
Yes it was like watching Tebow vs the Steelers in the playoffs. Efficient and opportunistic. Still didn't scream the next Mahommes. Plenty of time and I hope Allen just gets better and better but the point is we didn't spend all those picks and redo the whole offense to be the same or slightly worse on offense than we were two years ago. The passing offense was supposed to get better and the scoring was supposed to get better and that is yet to be seen. The only thing that is better than two years ago is still only the defense.
This is a complete asinine comparison. Mahomes supporting cast and playcalling is in another dimension compared to Allen's with the Bill's. It is apples and oranges. So Mahomes puts up the numbers he is putting up now in Chicago last year? That's a comparison. Mahomes was drafted into one of the best situations in modern history for a Qb. Excepting a rookie with sub par talent around him to be an MVP is incredibly stupid. Just look at Geoff and Trubisky in consecutive years. Both as rookie noobs labeled bust. Given better supporting casted both improved.
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4 minutes ago, mattynh said:
I had the same thought. The first 3rd down they had where he ran for the first down, he had a guy right after the snap to the right that would have been an easy conversion but he was not looking there. Bottom line is right now he is a one read guy, that has to change for him to make it. It's great that he is using his legs though which can give him some confidence and keep the offense moving at times. In the long run though your franchise QB has to be able to throw it more consistently that he does right now. So many bootlegs that generate a lot of time to pass and he often just hoofs it for 3-4 yards.
Because he didn't throw it underneath right away does not indicate he is a one read qb. You dont know the passing concept and his coaching dictated by pressure or defensive alignment. Give me a break. Allen has faced by far the toughest defenses than any of the other rookies in his class. Also has the worst offensive supporting cast. He looks like a guy to build around. They won because of Josh Allen today not inspite.
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52 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:
Let's be clear. He was 8 of 19 for 160 yards. He basicaly was Lamar Jackson minus the turnovers. I am trying to be positive. I think he's making positive plays and limiting turnovers but you kool aid drinking yahoo's are a couple bubbles off plumb if you think he's playing like a "franchise" QB.
Oakland and Cincinnati are two of the worst defenses in the NFL. Jacksonville is one of the best in the league and easily the most talented. The analogy is completely off base. Allen's 3 wins have come against playoff teams. He has had a very difficult schedule and has come out of it remarkably well. His best wr is an undrafted FA rookie and a second year Te who was a converted wr. There is more to playing Qb than throwing 5 TDs and 300 yards.
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Week 14: Jets Game Preparation - Inactives Announced
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I hear the clip with Pennington and come away with the notion that he has not watched either Jacksonville or Miami game. Missing 1 or 2 throws a game is no differant than what Rodgers or any other top Qb does. Allen has not shown himself as a first read and run player. He has made big time throws in bigtime windows. Allen's biggest thing is he needs his teammates to better understand how to handle the scramble. When to sit down your route when to come back towards him and when to slip out deep. Buffalo would be wise this offseason to consult with Arians. He had his hand in young big ben and scheming the scramble. If the scramble is controlled chaos the defense is put at a severe disadvantage. They do that sky is the limit. As long as Allen stay humble and continues to grind he will be special.