ChiGoose

Yes, there are plenty of social media sites and accounts that target hate at specific individuals. Like, claiming that anyone who supports LGBT rights is a pedophile groomer or by following election law, an administrator is stealing the election.

I think we can get lost in the minutiae and partisan attacks, but let’s just come back together and agree that Trump illegally possessed government documents.

Hey @SoCal Deek, I value your opinion on this since it seems to be right up your alley. I don't know for certain if it was laminated glass, though the responding officers believed it was. Initial reports can be obviously be false as people are emotionally charged during the incident. From what I can tell from the photos, there is broken glass both inside and outside the house but there is a large circle of glass that is shattered but still holding together. I'd honestly appreciate your thoughts on this. Here are some different images I've found: Image 1 Image 2 Image 3

I'm going to need a more powerful computer to answer that...

Actually, the answer to life, the universe, and everything is 42.

This is absolutely 100% true. There were several left-wing / BLM-type groups that were actually stood up by the Russian IRA.

Until recently, elections administrators were not in the public eye. Nor were trans people or drag queen brunches part of the discourse either. But, it seems that some people like to demonize these people, doxx them, and then pretend surprise when violence occurs. Rinse and repeat. Continue spewing nonsense and hate while lives are ended by those listening to your message. Just make sure you keep enough of an arm's distance to be able to claim innocence even though it is very obvious what is going on.

It's almost as if vilifying specific people and telling the masses that they are doing horrible things helps to drive violence against them...

I never said votes were changed. The election was not rigged. It was an influence campaign.

If you don’t believe that the Russians helped the Trump campaign and that the Trump campaign worked with Russian assets, then I don’t know what to tell you at this point because you live in an absolute fantasy world.

Nailed it. Those damn Clinton children stealing from kids with cancer Oh wait…

I don’t know what it is with this board just going straight for strawmen and failing basic reading comprehension but you all need to log off and touch some grass for a bit.

Oh look, words have consequences. The same conspiracies that PPP loves and always falls for also leads to threats and violence against the targets of those conspiracies. Who could have thought?! https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/maricopa-county-chairman-moved-to-undisclosed-location-for-safety-after-midterm-elections?taid=637a4129eaedf20001098434&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

This is just laying the groundwork for the rubes. The FTC already had a consent order against Twitter and will likely enforce it if Musk violates it. Musk is also likely violating numerous employment laws which may be enforced by regulators and/or through lawsuits by former employees. On top of that, Musks plans for content moderation will certainly violate laws in Europe and other countries, creating more legal exposure. All of this is obvious and readily apparent. But if he can spin it ahead of time as political persecution instead of the obvious consequences of his actions, the ignorant masses will lap it up.

No problem. And I think we can see how the media gets this stuff wrong too. That’s why it is best to just go to the filings when they are available.

I suppose you could try looking into it. If you had, maybe you’d learn that she saved the dress from the incident and kept it unwashed. No idea if anything comes of it, but this isn’t hard stuff to find.

“10. At 2:31 a.m., San Francisco Police Department (“SFPD”) Officer Colby Wilmes responded to the Pelosi residence, California and knocked on the front door. When the door was opened, Pelosi and DEPAPE were both holding a hammer with one hand and DEPAPE had his other hand holding onto Pelosi’s forearm. Pelosi greeted the officers. The officers asked them what was going on. DEPAPE responded that everything was good. Officers then asked Pelosi and DEPAPE to drop the hammer” “DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the interview, DEPAPE repeated” It literally says that the officer says the door was opened and that DePape said that Pelosi opened it.

Original criminal complaint from 10/28 Grand Jury indictment from 11/9 Officers stated that they opened the door while DePape stated that Paul Pelosi opened it. All individuals state that Pelosi and DePape were in the Foyer when the officers entered. Most likely explanation is that Pelosi unlocked the door and the officers came in but we will see as the evidence is made public. Also, another example of the media sucking at these things is them not linking to the damned filings. They are public! It’s getting a bit better but some are just hosting the files on their sites instead of linking to the source.

I haven’t seen the video. Can you share it? Also, the DoJ filings explicitly state that Paul opened the door.

There is an easy solution to this. Just read the DoJ filings. The media sucks at stuff like this. It’s a rush to be first, so they make mistakes and sew confusion. So while it’s fine to engage in media criticism, we shouldn’t confuse it with the actual criminal case.

The police report stated that the officers believed it was laminated. Also that DePape stated that he had a hard time breaking through it. Maybe it wasn’t laminated but it doesn’t change the fact that the glass shards were both inside and outside of the door. Also, this part of the conspiracy never made any sense to me. Did they get into a fight and specifically break this one window and absolutely nothing else, but then they made up which is why Pelosi supposedly went back to DePape after opening the door (he didn’t, but people believe he did)?

Just because some people seem to think these are good points instead of what they are: terrible points, let’s take a look. Paul Pelosi called 911 before he was assaulted? How suspicious! You wake up at 2:30am to a stranger in the house, what do you do? Apparently call 911 is the wrong answer. Maybe just sit there and see where it goes? Paul Pelosi answered the door while wrestling a hammer with the assailant? Pelosi opened the door with one hand while keeping the other hand on the hammer the assailant was holding. This is suspicious because… reasons! The broken glass is outside the house?! The broken glass is both inside and outside of the house. Which is to be expected with someone trying to break laminated glass. Pelosi ran back to the intruder! No he didn’t. He was in the foyer when the police arrived. He was wrestling the assailant for control of the hammer and was able to open the door with one arm. This embarrassing insanity of completely ludicrous and improbable conspiracy has already been debunked but I guess it’s always feelings over facts over here.

It does get tough to try to explain things to the most ignorant people on the world who are suffering from internet brain worms. But I guess somebody has to do it.

If you think this is the same as the Jussie Smollett story, you need to log off from the internet for a while. It’s rotting your brain.

Eh, marriage isn’t a word beholden to a specific religion. Catholics get married, Protestants get married, Jews get married, Hindus get married, Muslims get married, atheists get married, etc. In Catholicism, there is the sacrament of Holy Matrimony. The government should not use that term, but to claim that “marriage” belongs to a particular religion is a big stretch.